“Intelligence Without Ambition
~
(One of my favorite artist BTW)
Avi Loeb Medium 12/04/25
"We measure our lifespan in units of years — the time it takes the Earth to circle the Sun. Since the Sun was born, the Earth completed 4.6 billion such circles. For comparison, documented human history covers only what happens during the last millionth of their total count."
"But the Milky-Way galaxy is a Russian doll of disks within a disk. For the same reason that water spirals before it goes down the drain, the gas cloud that made the Sun was orbiting in a disk as it fed the emerging Sun at the center. After the process was over, the residual debris disk made the Earth and the other planets."
(They still haven't solved
the problem of angular momentum BTW.)
"Fortuitously, the Sun was sufficiently massive to ignite nuclear fusion at its core. The heat supplied by this nuclear furnace enabled life as we know it on Earth.
(What's being inferred here
is that it could be different somewhere else.
Codes don't create themselves.
(Genetic, DNA etc,)
by definition a code is sequenced
and requires pre-planning, and logic.
Everything that has ever lived
(processed oxygen to survive
which would be one part of the definition of "life")
the only place
WE KNOW
that life has existed
has had a genetic code.
To assume that life could have developed
somewhere else differently
than we know it has
in every single instance
we have ever seen it
violates the scientific principal of
Simply put,
this is the line in the sand
where
SCIENTIST
STOP BEING SCIENTIST
AND BECOME IDEOLOGUGES
PUSHING THEIR OWN
FAITH-BASED AGENDA.
Hebrews 11:1
"Now faith is the substance of
things hoped for,
the evidence of things not seen")
"In analogy on a much larger scale, the gas that condensed to make the Milky-Way, formed a disk around its center that fragmented into a hundred billion Sun-like stars which are circling the Galactic center."
"How many circles did the Sun complete so far around the Milky-Way center? With an orbital speed of about 240 kilometers per second (four times larger than the speed of the interstellar visitor 3I/ATLAS relative to the Sun) and an orbital radius of about 26,000 light years,
the orbital time is about
two hundred million years.
This means that the Sun completed
about 23 circles around the Milky-Way
since it was born."
"During these 23 circles, the solar system crossed the path of many dense clouds of interstellar gas in which massive stars exploded as supernovae or hypernovae
that should have been spectacular to watch from up close. A camera on the young Earth could have captured by now the most spectacular movie of all times. This could have resulted in a short documentary of the night sky by condensing every orbit around the Galactic center into a five-minute segment."
"In a lecture to a select group of CEOs last night, I was asked: “How many times was Earth visited by interstellar guests throughout its history?”
"I explained that meter-scale rocks from interstellar space may impact the Earth roughly once per decade, adding up to half a billion such collisions over the Earth’s history.
If any of these interstellar rocks
carried resilient forms of life
that survived the interstellar journey,
(Weightlessness and Radiation?
Yeah, sure, right.
Avi?
We both know
you know better.)
"Earth could have been exposed
to extraterrestrial forms of life."
("As far as we know..." Thats what these types always like to preface things with, so allow me the same consideration:
"As far as we know"...all life takes information. (Genetic Code, DNA) Not one example of it anywhere not having the need for it. Not one example, anywhere, ever, of what we would call life without information. That is the scientific proof that we all have, that statement is based on what everybody who has ever lived has seen. That is based on observation, which is what science is supposed to be based on, and that is what these guys and gals just absolutely refuse to accept.
It's a really simple question Avi:
"Where did that life come from then?
How was it created so "resilient"?
And "as far as we know"
it needs information.
So where did that come from?)
"However, if an interstellar gardener chose to seed the Earth with life, then our Galactic history could have been very different."
(So here is a question for all the:
"Well there's just so many galaxies,
stars, solar systems and planets
there just has to be
other forms of live elsewhere" types.
First of all:
"Number don't equal life."
Second of all
Why would:
"an interstellar gardener
chose to seed the Earth with life"
unless they knew ahead of time
that it was the perfect place
to do so?
Out of all the other kazillions of choices
available to an
"advanced civilization"
why in the world would they choose here
unless we were perfectly situated
to sustain life?
God has these SOB's
comin and going
he really does.
And their backs are against the wall right now,
they really are.)
"The Sun only formed in the last third of cosmic history, since the age of the Universe is 13.8 billion years — 3 times the age of the Sun. As a result, most stars formed billions of years before the Sun.
An ambitious gardener
from an earlier star
had plenty of time to intervene
in the history of life on Earth.
We often consider the history of Earth as isolated
from its Galactic environment but this may not be the case."
(Now I am going to paraphrase
Marcelo Gleiser from above:
Avi?
Brother?
Time doesn't equal life.
You can have all the time you want.
Every planet in existence
can have the same exact conditions as the earth does
to support life
and without the information
to make it all work?
NO LIFE!
John 1:1
"In the beginning
was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God"
A word takes characters.
For it not to be gibberish
it has to be logically pre-arranged
and ordered.)
"Fundamentally, we do not know how much traffic
of technological objects
there was or is through the inner solar system."
(Avi?
We do know exactly:
"how much traffic
of technological objects
there was or is
through the inner solar system"
Until it is conclusively proven otherwise?
There has been exactly:
ZERO.
NADA
ZILCH.
NONE.
"traffic
of technological objects
through the inner solar system."
"Our telescopes cannot detect the reflection of sunlight from objects smaller than our biggest rocket, Starship, at distances of order the Earth-Sun separation. In addition, objects that are faster by orders of magnitude than our spacecraft would appear as a faint streak across our images of the sky and be missed by astronomers."
(Job 38:4-11
(God speaking)
“Who shut up the sea behind doors
when it burst forth from the womb,
9 when I made the clouds its garment
and wrapped it in thick darkness,
10 when I fixed limits for it
and set its doors and bars in place,
11 when I said, ‘
This far you may come
and no farther;
here is where
your PROUD waves
halt’
"As I told the group of CEOs last night: if we really wanted to really know our cosmic neighborhood, we would have invested a significant fraction of our military budget worldwide in space exploration. An investment of a trillion dollars per year would have led to a detection of all interstellar objects larger than a CubeSat which are passing through the orbit of the Earth around the Sun. Another part of this ambitious plan would have included a space platform that could carry humans on long journeys into interstellar space.
(AVI?
We've already wasted enough resources
on your cults fairytale.
(We are currently spending $11 Billion a week
just on interest payments on the national debt BTW
Two months into the new fiscal year and the U.S. government
is already spending more than $10 billion a week servicing national debt
Fortune 12/04/25)
Not to mention
that it is completely illogical.
Only cosmologist
ever get excited about
Biologist sure as hell don't,
and with good reason
as they know just how hard
life is to come by.
It just aint that easy.
The human body
is more complicated than an
F-35fighter jet.
It's idiotic beyond measure.
How about we feed people here first
instead of chasing some pipe dream of
an elitist, exclusive cult?
How do you think your creator feels about that?)
"The two parts are interconnected.
The most accomplished siblings
of our family of intelligent civilizations
may have followed this ambitious plan already. "
(This is where I just wanna
throw a brick at their faces.
We watched a preacher the other day
and he said:
"Lord?
Give me patience,
cause if you give me strength?
I'm gonna need bail money."
:-).
Avi?
Brother?
Find me a cell first
before you start talking about:
"accomplished siblings of our family
of intelligent civilizations"
like they already exist.
You are trying to run a marthon
and you havent even learned
how to walk yet.
Back up.
Tell ya what dont even worry
about finding me a cell
(every one of which came
from the one previous btw
think about it, you'll figure it out.)
just find me plate tectonics.
and
and a magnetic field
and an atmosphere.
Yawl cant even do that!
So why dont you just find those together
before you go yapping on about
"accomplished siblings of our family
of intelligent civilizations"
??????????
Cause it is an absolute insult to my
and this community's
intelligence.
It really is.
Your cults faith based belief system
is straight up offensive
to those of us who prefer
scientific observation
combined with logic
and intelligence.
Avi?
Brother?
It's over.
It's been over
for a long time already.
Your refusal
to acknowledge such?
Wont change a thing.
The fairytale you and others believed in
will not end well for you.
“At this moment it seems as though science will never be able to raise the curtain on the mystery of creation."
― Robert Jastrow, God and the Astronomers
(Well I Wonder why?
Job 38:11
when I said,
'This far you may come
and no farther;
here is where
your PROUD waves halt’
Ecclesiastes 3:11
"...no one can fathom
what God has done
from beginning to end.")
“For the scientist
who has lived by his faith in
the power of reason,
(Avi?
The ability to reason
crawled out of a tidal pool
hit with a lightning bolt did it?
It takes more faith to believe that
than I got brother.)
the story ends like a bad dream.
He has scaled the mountains of ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.”
― Robert Jastrow, God and the Astronomers
“Astronomers now find they have painted themselves into a corner because they have proven, by their own methods, that the world began abruptly in an act of creation to which you can trace the seeds of every star, every planet, every living thing in this cosmos and on the earth. And they have found that all this happened as a product of forces they cannot hope to discover. That there are what I or anyone would call supernatural forces at work is now, I think, a scientifically proven fact.”
― Robert Jastrow
(If that above was not the case?
We would have never had
"The Multiverse Fairytale"
forced upon us
by the societal priest of the day,
the high priest
of the faith-based belief system
of scientism.
)"We’re sick and tired
of your ism schism game"
“Far from disproving the existence of God,
astronomers may be finding
more circumstantial evidence that God exists.”
― Robert Jastrow
1 Corinthians 3:19
For the wisdom of this world
is foolishness with God.
For it is written,
He taketh the wise
in their own craftiness.
“There is a strange ring of feeling and emotion in these reactions [of scientists to evidence that the universe had a sudden beginning]. They come from the heart whereas you would expect the judgments to come from the brain. Why? I think part of the answer is that scientists cannot bear the thought
of a natural phenomenon
which cannot be explained,
even with unlimited time and money.
(UAP anybody?
Genetic Code anybody?
Mechanism by which the genetic code
was imputed into every cell
that has ever lived anybody?
3I/ATLAS anybody?)
"There is a kind of religion in science;"
("Scientist" have turned it
into a faith-based exercise
that just does not fit
with what is observed.)
"it is the religion of a person who believes there is order and harmony in the Universe. Every event can be explained in a rational way as the product of some previous event; every effect must have its cause, there is no First Cause.
(That is their whole problem right there:
… This religious faith of the scientist is violated by the discovery that the world had a beginning under conditions in which the known laws of physics are not valid, and as a product of forces or circumstances we cannot discover. When that happens, the scientist has lost control. If he really examined the implications, he would be traumatized.”
― Robert Jastrow, The Enchanted Loom
“Now we see how the astronomical evidence supports the Biblical view of the origin of the world. The details differ, but the essential elements in the astronomical and Biblical accounts of Genesis are the same: the chain of events leading to man commenced suddenly and sharply at a definite moment in time, in a flash of light and energy.”
― Robert Jastrow, The Enchanted Loom
("in a flash of light and energy.”
Thats the whole of
right there BTW.)
“Consider the enormity of the problem. Science has proved that the universe exploded into being at a certain moment. It asks: What cause produced this effect? Who or what put the matter or energy into the universe? And science cannot answer these questions, because, according to the astronomers, in the first moments of its existence the Universe was compressed to an extraordinary degree, and consumed by the heat of a fire beyond human imagination. The shock of that instant must have destroyed every particle of evidence that could have yielded a clue to the cause of the great explosion.”
― Robert Jastrow, The Enchanted Loom
Go figure right?
Ecclesiastes 3:11
"...no one can fathom
what God has done
from beginning to end.")
“Scientists have no proof that life was not the result of an act of creation, but they are driven by the nature of their profession to seek explanations for the origin of life that lie within the boundaries of natural law.”
― Robert Jastrow, The Enchanted Loom
Here is the universal law
the cult of scientism
chooses to willingly ignore:
"Information is incapable
of creating itself."
It takes something outside of itself
to organize and structure it.
It takes a sentient,
cognizant intellect.
I love what Missler said:
"God is present
every time a cell divides.")
Back to Avi's piece:)
"Finding their products
in our neighborhood would inspire us to do the same.
(One more time,
how did they come into being exactly?
Cause as demonstrated
it wasnt an accident here.
So 17 Quantum fields
(matter is made of the same components
"over there" as it is "here")
just randomly decided one day
they were gonna create life?
(See QFT)
And if so?
If you honestly believe that to be the case?
WHERE DID THE INFORMATION FROM
THAT WE KNOW IS NECESSARY?
Cause it sure didn't emerge from
the "Quanta" themselves
See Universal law above about:
"Information is incapable
of creating itself."
This garbage is just to easily refuted
to ever be taken seriously.
"Nonsense is still nonsense
even if its from the mouths
of high minded scientist."
Love that man.)
"If we had access to the documentary of the night sky over the past 4.6 billion years, we would have been more ambitious. "Salvador Dali is quoted as saying: “Intelligence without ambition is a bird without wings.”
This certainly applies to
intelligent civilizations
in the Milky Way galaxy."
(Avi?
your logical fallacy is:
to prove it true.
Not to others to prove it untrue.
Which in this particular case is easy
as there isn't any evidence of such
"civilizations" existing,
or even having existed previously.
As well:
"Extraordinary claims
require extraordinary evidence"
~
Carl Sagan
Of which there is exactly
nonefor:
"intelligent civilizations
in the Milky Way galaxy."
Jastrow had more right back in the day
than these cult members do today
and that is the truth they just refuse to accept.
Oh well.
Tough shit.
Sucks to be yawl etc.)
"Many of them might have engaged in geopolitical conflicts on their rocky planet and perished by now. Nobody would mourn humanity if it dies from self-inflicted wounds. The documentaries of their night sky on exoplanets will document us only if we are ambitious enough to venture into interstellar space."
"The first step would be to recognize
that other Galactic civilizations did it already."
(What was the source of their information?
How did 17 different quantum fields
work together randomly
to create life?
As it couldnt have on its own.
This fairy tale is finished Avi.
Middle schoolers are gonna sound like me here before to long.
It's just to easy to refute to be taken seriously.
This shit is just stupidity
for people who don't know any better,
or don't wanna know any better
and that is what me and honey
are here to help do something about.)
"Finding them requires the humility to learn that
not all space objects are comets or asteroids."
(100% agree with that.
as 3I/ATLAS is by all counts
a supernatural object.
Intelligence
(of any kind)
and the technology it creates
simply can not overcome
the universal laws of nature
See:
"Information is incapable
of creating itself.")
"It also requires the investment in large survey telescopes,
like the NSF-DOE Rubin Observatory in Chile."
(AVI?
Brother?
Newsflash:
People can't even afford food!
Let alone afford to finance
your stupid fucking pipe dream!)
"Before we fly out of the solar system, we can find out what comes into it from interstellar space. Both `I/`Oumuamua and 3I/ATLAS had anomalies, listed here and here respectively. There must be many smaller or faster objects that we are not aware of.
(See the Burden of Proof
logical fallacy explained above.)
"The “unknown unknowns”, namely things that we do not even know that we do not know, offer the most exciting prospects in learning about our cosmic neighborhood."
"The CEOs were excited last night. Will their excitement translate into related investments? I have no doubt that it will, as soon as we have indisputable evidence for alien technology."
(I wish I had the same opportunity
to speak with them that you did.
I really do.
As demonstrated here very easily
Not only do "Aliens" not exist,
they simply can not exist.
And a lil side note about:
"the interstellar gardener
fairytale",
Wednesday, November 5, 2025
3i/ATLAS updates...of course...:-) Part 2
"The original idea for panspermia came from
Francis Crick who along with James Watson
discovered the double Helix structure of the DNA molecule.
Knowing
the sheer amount of
information
contained
in the structure of the DNA molecule
required an advance intelligence,
Cricks version of
"the interstellar gardener" fairytale,
had the molecule
arriving on earth completely intact,
These days?
Any particular piece of space dust
seems to fit the bill, even though
5-300 metric tons
of space dust
hit the earth DAILY,
without any new life
having emerged from it.
It's just flat out stupid.
Ref:
Wednesday, August 13, 2025
Even the entire DNA molecule
somehow surviving the harsh environment of space,
and making it through or atmosphere
(Highly unlikely
Ref: Atmospheric entry)
as per Cricks version of panspermia
isn't good enough.
As it would
REQUIRE
RNA and proteins
to come with along with it.
as it is a continuum.
They can not function
without each other.
They all had to come into existence
literally within hours of each other,
or none of it works.
So since the members of this cult
like to figure out probabilities?
So what's the odds
of all that all happening huh?
RNA
DNA
and proteins needed for life
all coming together
at roughly the same time?
I'll tell you what the odds
of all that happening
at roughly the same time are,
it's about the same as
there being "Aliens"
or "intelligent civilizations"
anywhere else besides
the only place
we have ever seen life.
TRYING TO FIND WAYS
AROUND WHAT HAS BEEN OBSERVED
(like Crick was doing
in the example above)
IS JUST NOT SCIENCE
AND I FOR ONE
AM ABOUT SICK AND TIRED
OF THE SOCITAL PRIEST
OF OUR TIME
TRYING TO FORCE DOWN MY/OUR THROAT(S)
THEIR FAITHBASED BELIEF SYSTEM
THAT IS JUST SO EAILSY
REFUTED WITH THEIR OWN METHODS.
I/we got my/our own
faith based belief system
with a mountain of observations
and direct evidence supporting it
thank you very much.
You can keep your
illogical
non-observed,
non scientific
nonsense
to yourselves
And if you choose not to?
Im gonna expose it
for the absolute crock of shit
that it is.
AVI?
Brother?
This is just to easy.
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