"It is essential that we stand back from our presumptions and prejudices and listen carefully to what the Biblical text is telling us. We are living in exciting times, but we need to be diligent in our study of God’s Word. The only certain barrier to truth is the presumption that we already have it."
~
Chuck Missler 2009
the 144,000 in
Revelation 14 vs 1-5
were angels.
(Nobody has ever made any sense
of these 144,000 being virgins.
Ever. Nobody.
Don't even humor me and try to.
If nobody else has by now?
Then you wont either.
pretty simple.)
(And yes, there are two sets of 144,000
ya might wanna get caught up.)
Revelation 14:1-5
14 And I looked, and, lo,
a Lamb stood
on the mount Sion,
and with him
an hundred forty and four thousand,
having his Father's name
written in their foreheads.
(Already somehow apparently
as no mention of "sealing"
It's already done.
They were created that way.)
2 And I heard a voice from heaven,
as the voice of many waters,
and as the voice of a great thunder:
and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which
were not defiled with women;
for they are virgins.
(Goes to Genesis 6:1-5)
These are they which
follow the Lamb
whithersoever he goeth.
(See: Ezekiel 1:12
(Describing angels.)
And they went every one straight forward:
whither the spirit was to go, they went;
and they turned not when they went."
Which in turn mirrors Joel 2:7
"and they shall march every one on his ways,
and they shall not break their ranks:
And the lord is the head of that army
Joel 2:11
And the Lord shall utter his voice before his army:
So its pretty easy to infer that Joel 2:7
is describing angels as well.)
These were redeemed
from among men,
being the firstfruits
unto God and to the Lamb.
(The angels were the first created beings.)
5 And in their mouth was found no guile:
for they are without fault
before the throne of God.
So these 144,000
are completely different
from the 144,000
found in Revelation 7.
Do you own
comparison and contrast if you want lol
I've already done it enough lol.
Or I wouldn't be writing this lol
But It explains a lot.
And really simplifies things.
Which I like,
Occams razor
and all lol.
See: Wednesday, November 26, 2025
All the White robes, linen, garments, raiment ect
mentioned in The book of Revelation.
"They are angels.
Thats my interpretation
And that covers:
1) Having their Father's name
written in their foreheads.
(vs 1)
2) No man could learn that song
(vs 3)
3) which were redeemed
from the earth.
(Brought back to Heaven vs 1)
4) These are they
which were not defiled with women;
for they are virgins.
(vs 4)
5) These are they which follow the Lamb
whithersoever he goeth
(Also vs 4, not humanly possible)
6) Redeemed
from among men
7) Being the firstfruits
unto God and to the Lamb
(For their sacrifice)
8) They are without fault
before the throne of God.
(exalted)
Point #9
(Added 12/02/25)
would be from outside of
Revelation 14:1-5
And that would be:
Revelation 7:11
All the angels
stood around the throne
and the elders and the four living creatures,
and fell on their faces
before the throne and worshiped God,
If ALL of the angels
were there then?
That would seem to imply
that at some point
preceding that moment
they weren't
ALL
there.
So I go to Biblehub.com
and I look up commentary on Revelation 7:11
and low and behold:
"What Does Revelation 7:11 Mean
All the angels
“And all the angels…” (Revelation 7:11a)
• Every member of the heavenly host
is present—no absentee angels.
This also echoes:
Job 38:7
When the morning stars sang together,
and all the sons of God
shouted for joy?
(sons of Elohim)
I can tell you this much
"all the sons of God"
in Job 38:7?
Aint got nothing to do with Seth.
Reference:
Tuesday, December 2, 2025
So, going back here
Eight different points
(nine now)
all pointing to this
group of 144,000
being angels.
Which I have not read anything
where anybody
has ever made
any better sense of that
than what I just stated."
Li additional point to be made here as well:
They can not be humanity.
No one can be in God's Temple
untill the Seventh vial is poured out
and that hasnt happened yet:
Revelation 15:8
And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.
Revelation 16:17
And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
Okay?
With me so far?
Now check this out:
THESE WERE THE ONES
THAT WERE RESTRAINING EVIL.
AND THEY GOT REMOVED.
Dont even try and argue we aint seen
an augmentation of evil supernaturalism
since 1/20/25
2 Thessalonians 2:7
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work:
only he who now letteth will let,
until he be taken out of the way.
Now look at what happens
after verse 5 in Revelation 14
when the rest of the chapter
is no longer talking
about those 144,000
but what happens after
they are brought home.
I mean I remember reading this a few times
and thinking why does this chapter
seem like it has two different subject matters?
And they don't really have anything much
to do with one another?
Question answered
as far as I am concerned.
Cause here is what happens
after they are back in Heaven:
Revelation 14:6-20
6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
(First angel.
Sound familiar? It should.)
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
(Happening, right now,
world systems collapsing)
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
(Next up on the agenda.
ITS WHY THE DATA CENTERS YO!)
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
(Then that,
and then some more
details are listed in
vs 11-20.)
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.
16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.
20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.
Read it like this:
(Three parts instead of two lol.
Go figure.)
And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.
And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.
Just thought you might wanna know.
Yup...
"It is essential that we stand back from our presumptions and prejudices and listen carefully to what the Biblical text is telling us. We are living in exciting times, but we need to be diligent in our study of God’s Word. The only certain barrier to truth is the presumption that we already have it."
~
Chuck Missler 2009
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