Saturday, June 13, 2026

Why is it

 


nobody who espouses a 

"Holographic universe" position

ever explains 

what all 

it explains?


Thursday, June 11, 2026

Chuck Missler study of biblical angels 

"practical conclusions" part 4, Warning! Yet Again...


"Assuming The Holographic Universe is true?

As Bohm, Missler, Susskind and Hawking purpose?


It eliminates any need for:

Dark Energy 

(The energy expanding space time)

and Dark Matter 

(the force that holds galaxy's together

even though the spacetime they reside in

is expanding.)


Which scientist just do not have a clue 

about how start to explain.


It also eliminates the "problems"

"Inflationary cosmology

set out to solve:

The Monopole problem

The Horizon Problem

and 

The Flatness Problem

and none of em 

were ever really problems 

to start with.


Kinda gives me the impression 

people knew The Holographic Principle was correct 

and they were just looking for something to do,

so they set out to fix "problems" 

that didn't exist in the first place.

 

A Holographic Universe would explain

 why no one has ever witnessed

a star the moment it is being born,


It would negate the:

"Well if we are the only ones in it?

It sure does seem like 

an awful waste of space" 

contention.


All solved.

Not multiplying any entities,

not violating the scientific principal of

Occams razor 

one solution:

Holographic Universe."


And just why wouldn't 

"The Father of Lights"

James 1:17

design things that way?


And remember 

what our natural laws state:


You are as much physical matter

as one second is to 30 million years

but your information can not be destroyed

(only by its creator)

only transformed.


Time to rethink some things

quick like in a hurry yo.





When your friends

 


bring over surf and turf 

(Porterhouse and shrimp)

and help you fix it

at your house

and then a lil while later

one of em says:


"I haven't heard 

Lucinda Williams 

in FOREVER!"




Priceless...
Just priceless.

Moments like that?
Make life worth living.

Good friends, good food
good music
=
Good times.


Thx guys.
Appreciate it,
it was awesome.




Female Preachers...

 

You know?

If you dont think they should be able to preach?

Then dont go to or be a part of a church that allows it.

See how difficult that was?


"But it is the word of God Andrew!"


Yeah well...

So is this:


Joel 2:28-29

28 And it shall come to pass 

afterward

that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; 

and your sons 

and your daughters 

shall prophesy, 

your old men shall dream dreams, 

your young men shall see visions:


29 And also upon the servants 

and upon the handmaids 

in those days 

will I pour out my spirit.


There is a clear 

eschatological framework

(End of this age)

 for Joel 2 

as the locust there 

mirror the locust in 

Revelation 9.


See: Tuesday, June 2, 2026

Excerpt from

( the hopefully soon to be finished lol)

Chuck Missler Angels pt.3 "The Dark Side".


So when does:

"and your daughters 

shall prophesy"

take place exactly?

Thats my question.


And why is Joel 2:28-29 

always, intentionally

left out of this discussion?


I just can not stand cherry picking verses

to support favored positions, when other verses

clearly take precedence.


Never seen anybody 

not one single person ever

who was defending a 

"only males" can be preachers 

posistion bring it up

and its pretty obvious to me 

as to why that would be.


The whole thing hinges on one word:

"Afterward"

as this changes the situation.


So after what?

Becomes the question.


Remember this:

Peter announced the fulfillment

of this part of Joel 2 

on the day of Pentecost.


Acts 2:14-21

14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.

16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:

21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.


So when do "the male only" types

purpose that

"and your daughters shall prophesy"

happems?


These verses just get ignored 

and like I said it's pretty easy to see why.


It's pretty clear

 that the afterward spoken of

is after Christ ascension.


As we had prophetesses 

as far back as Acts


Acts 21:8-9

8 And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was one of the seven; and abode with him.

9 And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.


And if you get all into the semantics about 

the differences between prophetesses and preachers?

"well thats not a preacher, or a pastor 

thats a different title a different job function" etc 

then you are just splitting hairs 

that just don't need to be split.


The Spiritual gift of prophesy

is multifaceted, and its purpose

is to build up the church.

It is to be able:

To teach, to instruct, to enlighten, to inform, 

to explain complex things simply

and to be able to predict.


Trying to say that the prophetesses in Acts weren't preachers

is about as stretchy as stretchy gets and it just flat out just ignores

Peters call of the fulfillment of  Joel 2 on the day of Pentecost.


In short?

My mind just can not do the mental gymnastics needed

to hold a "male only" preachers position

since that day.

(Pentecost)


From my Mendenhall reference Bible:



Acts 21:9

(At the bottom)


The R references Joel 2:28

The T translates as "Preached"

(Notes on the right.)


Also? 

A strict legalistic approach to

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 

34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

would seem to necessitate 

women never being able to speak 

in the sanctuary

under any circumstances, 

this is also never brought up.


AND

1 Corinthians 11:5

5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.


Would seem to indicate

that women were indeed already

Prophesizing during Paul's time.


So whats the problem now?


Now ask yourself:


Is there a current 

shortage of preachers?


(Yes there is and it is 

across denominations)


What entity do you think

benefits from that?


Now the big one 

EVERYBODY

just seems to forget:


Did Christ break ANY 

of the religious rules of the day?

And?

 Did he have good cause 

to do so?


If you know your book

you know he broke plenty.


As far as me and honey are concerned?

THIS IS AND HAS BEEN

A SETTLED MATTER

FOR A WHILE NOW.


If you don't want female preachers?

Then don't belong to a church 

that allows it.

Pretty simple.


But my main point 

to the people who hold a 

"Only men can be preachers" 

position is this:


When does this:


"and your daughters 

shall prophesy"


take place exactly?


I got all day.





Friday, June 12, 2026

I've heard it said

 


'Well God 

is going to protect us."


And they weren't talking about from

God's wrath in the last 3.5 years 

of the tribulation period, aka

"The great Tribulation."


And all I could keep thinking is:


Protect you from what?

An eternity with him?


Romans 8:36


36 As it is written, 

For thy sake we are killed all the day long; 

we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.


Psalm 44:22

Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; 

we are counted as sheep for the slaughter.


"And so in remembrance of these 

your mighty actsin Jesus Christ, 

we offer ourselves 

in praise and thanksgiving

as a holy and living sacrifice,

in union with Christ offering for us

as we proclaim the mystery of faith.

Christ has died, Christ is risen, Christ will come again.


If that isn't your mindset?

Then I think you are missing 

a pretty big part of something.

I really do.


Look around you.

This world 

is only gonna continue on 

this path toward

it's inevitable conclusion.


If this is what you wanna fight 

to keep a hold of?


You just go on right ahead then,

some of us know better.


Revelation 9:6


And in those days 

shall men seek death,

and shall not find it

and shall desire to die, 

and death shall 

flee from them.


Unbelievers that is 

Reference verse four:

4 And it was commanded them that 

they should not hurt 

the grass of the earth, 

neither any green thing, 

neither any tree; but 

only those men which have not 

the seal of God in their foreheads.


As long as they are alive?

There's a chance they might change.

Thats why no death, only hurt.


Over and over 

he just keeps giving you chances,

so you might wanna take him up on it

while you still can.



It doesnt get as much attention

 

but just like 

energy 

can not be created or destroyed

but can only be transformed

the same is true for 

information 

as well.


There is a question for you 

here at the end:


Revisiting:

Friday, April 19, 2024

Long and complex 

but worth it at the end. (Four Parts)


Can Information Escape a Black Hole?

Quanta Magazine April 11, 2024


On the post it is 

actually linked under the heading:

"Lets see what another physicist says."


Black holes are inescapable traps for most of what falls into them — but there can be exceptions. The theoretical physicist Leonard Susskind speaks with co-host Janna Levin about the black hole information paradox and how it has propelled modern physics.


(This is a guy who also believes in the holographic principal:

"The three-dimensional world of ordinary experience—the universe filled with galaxies, stars, planets, houses, boulders, and people—is a hologram, an image of reality coded on a distant two-dimensional surface."


"Nothing escapes a black hole … or does it? In the 1970s, the physicist Stephen Hawking described a subtle process by which black holes can “evaporate,” with some particles evading gravitational oblivion. That phenomenon, now dubbed Hawking radiation, seems at odds with general relativity, and it raises an even weirder question: If particles can escape, do they preserve any information about the matter that was obliterated?

"Hawking realized that through a remarkable and subtle quantum process, black holes could evaporate, eventually exploding entirely in a burst of radiation. 

(Light, Energy, Data, Information)

Even in this explosion, nothing can escape. The black hole seemed to take everything it had consumed with it into oblivion, including all quantum information. But where did it all go?"

"Few understood the significance of Hawking’s results initially, but one scientist immediately recognized the crisis that would become known as the information loss paradox. He is here with us today, the famed physicist Leonard Susskind — Lenny to anyone who knows him. In today’s episode, Lenny leads us through the Black Hole War as we ask: Is there a quantum escape hatch from black holes? And will we ever know for sure?"


"The problem with it is, it violates a principle of physics. The principle of physics is “nothing ever gets completely lost.” You say, well, that’s crazy. If I take a piece of charcoal and I burn up the charcoal, having maybe written a message on the charcoal, you’ve lost the message. But that’s not true. Whatever you wrote on that piece of charcoal is encoded in the smoke and the products of combustion."


"Stuff comes out of the black hole. Hawking radiation it’s called. But that Hawking radiation cannot carry any information because that information was from behind the horizon, and nothing can get out."

LEVIN: So at this time, Hawking came down squarely in favor of pure general relativity and the absence of quantum mechanics, claiming absolutely nothing can get out? So the information that fell in, even if the black hole evaporates, it’s like you’re yanking a curtain up, but the stuff is gone, and there’s nothing you can do about it. And he fell down on the side of “information was lost.” But you said, “Wait, there’s no way.” Why was it so important to you to say information cannot be lost? What’s so bad about that?"

"SUSSKIND: Well, the conservation of information is at the root of some of the most far-reaching principles of physics, in particular the principles of thermodynamics. The second law of thermodynamics, the first law of thermodynamics, the conservation of energy, the principles of statistical mechanics, the properties of radiation — all of that is 100% dependent on a set of principles that include the zeroth principle of physics, that information is conserved. It’s called unitarity in quantum mechanics. And what it says is that, if there are little differences in what you begin with, those little differences will remain afterwards. Hawking was saying, what comes out of the black hole will be absolutely independent of what fell in."


If you follow that line of reasoning and ask what it implies, it implies chaos. Nothing makes sense anymore. I just felt that couldn’t be right."


SUSSKIND: It didn’t say anything more or less than, the information comes out encoded extremely subtly in the Hawking radiation, much too hard to ever reconstruct. In classical physics, it was impossible."


Mathew 19:26

(With man this is impossible, 

but with God all things are possible.)


"It became a question of what is called complexity. Complexity is a genuine concept in physics and in mathematics, and it’s just a measure of how hard it is to carry out a task. If you ask how hard it is to carry out the task of reconstructing what comes out of the black hole, you’ll find out that it is exponentially complex."


(Isaiah 55:8-9

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,

    neither are your ways my ways,”

declares the Lord.

“As the heavens are higher than the earth,

    so are my ways higher than your ways

    and my thoughts than your thoughts.")


 "The number of little operations that you would have to do in order to reconstruct what fell into the black hole was so extraordinarily high that, for all practical purposes, Stephen was right, the information was lost. 

But in quantum mechanics, 

it just becomes very, very complex to do it. 

So, the principle of complementarity was really just saying to Stephen, “You’re wrong.”


"Entropy is hidden 

information, encoded 

in microscopic details that you don’t have access to."


(Information is always the result of an intellect.

Nowhere do we see it not being.

I wonder who did the encoding?)


"The idea of the holographic principle was more general. 

Every region of space

not just a horizon of a black hole, is encoded."


(Things don't just encode themselves.

It takes an intellect to design them to be able to.)


SUSSKIND: Yeah, that’s true. But that’s not terribly surprising. From the outside perspective, the black hole is very hot. It’s doing what this piece of charcoal would do. It’s very hot. It’s evaporating. And there’s no chance that we could reconstruct the smoke, or the products of combustion, that we could reconstruct what the little bit of writing was on the piece of charcoal. Information gets thermalized. It gets scrambled. So badly scrambled that to reconstruct it is complex beyond imagination 

but in principle possible."


(Isaiah 55:8-9

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,

    neither are your ways my ways,”

declares the Lord.

“As the heavens are higher than the earth,

    so are my ways higher than your ways

    and my thoughts than your thoughts.")


"LEVIN: Welcome back to “The Joy of Why.”


"So in principle, 

if somebody does fall into the black hole, 

becomes completely vaporized, 

you could reconstruct them outside the black hole.


SUSSKIND: From the Hawking radiation.


LEVIN: From the Hawking radiation.


SUSSKIND: Right. But you could ask, how long would it take? How many quantum operations would it take? And the answer is exponentially large in the entropy of the black hole. Now the entropy of an ordinary black hole is very large in itself, I don’t know, 1070. So, we’re talking about times to reconstruct it, which are 10 to the 1070 years. That’s what quantum mechanics would say. The right statement, that Hawking should have made, is 

not that it’s impossible, 

but that it’s extraordinarily complex 

once you fall through the horizon.'



SO?


Every single cell that has ever existed

in your body (trillions)

had or has currently

specific information contained in it

in the form of a genetic code

that makes you you.


According to the laws of physics?

That information can not be destroyed

but only transformed.


So what is your specific information 

(Genetic Code)

going to be transformed into?

And where is it going to reside eternally?


The answer to what happens to it

is determined by 

the only eternal decision

you will ever have to make.


I pray you choose wisely.

I really do.



p.s.

 Galaxies not spreading apart 

even though the space they occupy is expanding

just flat out gives it away 

that the Holographic principal is correct.


That and?

If the amount of solid material in an atom

 is equal to the ratio 

of one second in 30 million years?


Wednesday, May 13, 2026

The boundaries of reality. Chuck Missler Angel Series pt1. "The Berean Challenge" Warning! It explains how your reality really works, a lot of people can not deal with it.


"...one second divided by 30 million years 

so how solid is this podium..."


Then why wouldn't everything be:


"a hologram, 

an image of reality 

coded 

on a distant two-dimensional surface"


Coding requires an intelligence to do it.

It doesn't just happen on its own.


Some people might wanna stop

and seriously reconsider

some long held positions.


I would highly encourage it.

Times getting short.


It's okay babe

 




My turn now.
:-).

How blessed you are.

I love you
and I love us.

Yes I do.


Open Challenge to every preacher who has ever said "The inerrant word of God"

 

from a pulpit on a Sunday.


Come and explain 

all of what follows

below.


Or are you scared your congregation

that pays you

doesn't want to hear the truth?


Cause it is 100% relevant for today.

It really is.


These "Evil Spirits" born of this world

(Not created in Heaven)

and not supposed to have ever been here

and now they have been given

"Habitations"

in the form of Synthetic Humanoids.


It's been going on 

for years already.


You really should wake up

to just how fast 

all of this is unfolding right now.



"Giants in the land: A Biblical Theology of 

The Nephilim, Anakin and , Rephaim, (And Goliath)


Zachary Garris  Giants, 1-2 Samuel

Christians, including many pastors and scholars, tend to gloss over the references to giants in the Bible. Yet giants play an important role in the biblical story, particularly in relation to their occupation of the Promised Land. As will be seen, Israel initially refused to enter the land because of giants, and only men of great faith (Joshua, Caleb, and David) were able to defeat them.  


The Sons of God and Giant Nephilim (Genesis 6:1-4)


The first mention of giants in the Bible is the Nephilim in Genesis 6:1-4. I have previously argued that the “sons of God” were spirit beings that mated with women and produced the Nephilim. The phrase “sons of God” elsewhere refers to spirit beings/angels (Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7), and Genesis 6:1-2 contrasts this group with all of mankind (not some subset such as Cain’s line), meaning they are non-human. The common view that this was the mixing of the lines of Seth and Cain assumes that everyone in Seth’s line was godly and everyone in Cain’s line was wicked. This is not something the text ever claims. Furthermore, alternative views (also including the kingly-line view) fail to explain how this intermarriage produced mighty (giant) warriors:


The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown (Genesis 6:4).  


It is important to note that Genesis 6:4 never explicitly calls the Nephilim “giants.” However, the Nephilim have often been considered giants because of the description of the giants in the land as those who come from the Nephilim in Numbers 13:32-33. Also, the Septuagint translates both the Hebrew נְּפִלִ֞ים (Nephilim) and גִּבֹּרִ֛ים (gibborim, “mighty men” or “men of renown”) in Genesis 6:4 as γίγαντες (gigantes, “giants”).[1] (It may be that the Septuagint translated Nephilim as “giants” because of the account in Numbers 13, though some think Nephilim comes from the Aramaic word naphiyla for giant.[2])


Whether descendants of the Nephilim were actually in the land of Canaan is uncertain, as the Israelite spies may have been exaggerating their account. However, exaggeration is unlikely because Genesis 6:4 says the Nephilim were on the earth “in those days, and also afterward” and the link between the Anakim and Nephilim in Numbers 13:33 seems to be an editorial comment (possibly referring back to Numbers 6:4). At minimum, the claim in Numbers 13:33 shows that the Israelites were aware that the Nephilim of old had a reputation of being giants (more on this below).


In the context of Genesis 6, God sent the flood to wipe out violent humans, including the Nephilim, seen in the language of “all flesh” (Genesis 6:12-13). "


(This is where I differ,

 in that Genesis 6:12-13


12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; 

for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

(Just like now)

13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.


is directly referring to Genesis 6:6-7

which preceded it:


6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, 

and it grieved him at his heart.


7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man 

whom I have created 

from the face of the earth; 

both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, 

and the fowls of the air

for it repenteth me that I have made them.


He destroyed his creation:

"both man, and beast, 

and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air"

The Nephilim were not his creation and therefore

this is why some of them survived the flood.)


God continued the human race through Noah, a new Adam, who was not tainted by Nephilim blood. Noah’s direct lineage is given all the way back to Adam (Genesis 5:1-32), and he is said to be “blameless (perfect) in his generations” (Genesis 6:9), possibly referring to his pure line—notice the plural “generations” (דֹֽרֹתָ֑יו). In spite of the flood, giants eventually made a comeback and dwelt in the land of Canaan. 


(Been researching this passage for years now.

I have never heard or read of anyone

who expounded on what I just did above:


"He destroyed his creation:

"both man, and beast, 

and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air"

The Nephilim were not his creation."


as to why some survived the flood.

Its possible some have explained this in this manner but I sure haven't ran across it as an explanation and it sure seems like I would have by now.


"one of the secrets in Bible studies 

be very precise 

~

Missler.)


Nephilim and Anakim in the Land of Canaan (Numbers 13:21-33)


Numbers 13 is the key passage on giants in the land of Canaan. When Israel left Egypt and was in the wilderness seeking to enter the Promised Land, Moses sent 12 Israelite spies (one from each tribe) to Canaan. The spies were to scout out the land and assess “whether the people who dwell in it are strong or weak” (Numbers 13:18). The spies returned to Moses after 40 days and gave a good report about the land—“It flows with milk and honey, and this is its fruit” (Numbers 13:27). However, they gave a bad report about the people in the land:


However, the people who dwell in the land are strong, and the cities are fortified and very large. And besides, we saw the descendants of Anak there. The Amalekites dwell in the land of the Negeb. The Hittites, the Jebusites, and the Amorites dwell in the hill country. And the Canaanites dwell by the sea, and along the Jordan (Numbers 13:28-29). 


Caleb, one of the spies, urged Israel to go up and occupy the land, but the other spies (except Joshua) said they were not able because the people there were stronger (Numbers 13:30-31). Then the “bad report” got even worse: 


(Caleb was the representative of The tribe of Judah

and Joshua in Aramaic is Yeshua another name for Jesus.

They're trying to get to the promise land yo.


The Two spies in The battle of Jericho?

All they did was save a gentile prostitute.

(Mirroring the two witnesses

saving todays corrupt church.)


Zerubbabel and Joshua the high priest?

(Somebody(s) had to lead the people back

from exile.


Sojourner spirit much?

Two witnesses Revelation 11 etc

Somebody has to go first.


"one of the secrets in Bible studies 

be very precise 

~

Missler.)



"The land, through which we have gone to spy it out, is a land that devours its inhabitants, and all the people that we saw in it are of great height. And there we saw the Nephilim (the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim), and we seemed to ourselves like grasshoppers, and so we seemed to them (Numbers 13:32-33). 


"The spies lacked faith and were rightly judged for their unbelief. Israel was made to wander the wilderness for 40 years (one year for each day of spying) so that the adults would all die out. God even killed the 10 unfaithful spies with a plague, sparing only Caleb and Joshua (Numbers 14:20-38).


(There is a strong message right there,

Oh yes there sure is...I hope you can understand it 

without me having to expound on it.)


"However, what concerns us here is the report of giants in the land. Was their report accurate? If so, this would help explain why the spies were so fearful. 


While it is possible that the spies were exaggerating their account of the people in the land, this exaggeration must be limited. This is because Moses confirms the spies’ account in Deuteronomy 9:1-2, where he says that Israel would cross the Jordan to “dispossess nations greater and mightier than you, cities great and fortified up to heaven, a people great and tall, the sons of the Anakim, whom you know, and of whom you have heard it said, ‘Who can stand before the sons of Anak?’” (cf. Deuteronomy 1:28; 2:10). The people in the land, particularly the Anakim, were in fact tall and mighty. 


Who were the Anakim? They were descendants of a man name Anak, whom we are told had three sons, Sheshai, Ahiman, and Talmai (Joshua 15:14; Judges 1:10, 20). Joshua later devoted the Anakim to destruction, only leaving them in Gaza, Gath, and Ashdod (Joshua 11:21-22). 



(West Bank, Gaza and the Golan 

as Missler pointed out

in his

Study of biblical angels "practical conclusions" part 4)


(1 Samuel 17:4 says that Goliath was from Gath, leading us to conclude he was a descendant of Anak.) Caleb is said to have driven out the Anakim from Hebron (Joshua 14:12; 15:14; Judges 1:20), a city that was formerly called Kiriath-arba, named after Arba, who “was the greatest man among the Anakim” (Joshua 14:15; cf. Judges 1:10).


Numbers 13:33 mentions that these sons of Anak “come from the Nephilim” (which is the only explicit connection between the Anakim and Nephilim in Scripture). Is this claim correct? Since Moses never mentions the Anakim as coming from the Nephilim, this may be the part that the spies fabricated in order to support their case against entering the land. However, there are three reasons for believing the statement in Numbers 13:33 is correct and that the Anakim in fact came from the Nephilim: 


Genesis 6:4 says the Nephilim were on the earth at a later time—“The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward. The “afterward” is presumably after the flood. Numbers 13:33 is the only other mention of Nephilim in Scripture, so this would explain the comment in Genesis 6:4. 


"The spies’ claim to have seen the Nephilim in Numbers 13:33 is followed with what reads like an editorial comment that seeks to connect the reference of the “sons of Anak” in 13:28 with the reference to Nephilim in 13:33—“the sons of Anak, who come from the Nephilim.” In this case, the author of Numbers considered the spies’ report of the Nephilim accurate and then added his own explanation that the Anakim came from the Nephilim."


"This connection between Anakim and the Nephilim in Numbers 13:33 is the only apparent explanation as to why some of the Canaanites were so tall. While some scholars suggest that these were only giants relative to the shorter Israelites (meaning six feet would be tall), Og’s bed and Goliath’s height suggest these were in fact genuine giants over nine feet tall (see below). 


"If the giants in the land came from the Nephilim, how did this happen when the Nephilim were wiped out in the flood? While some argue that the flood was only local, this would still be an unlikely explanation because the flood was intended to wipe out the Nephilim in Genesis 6. 


Thus there are two likely explanations: 

(1) The same event transpired later in history, as spirit beings again bred with women and produced more Nephilim; 

(2) Nephilim genes were passed down through Noah’s daughters-in-law. These wives of Ham, Shem, and Japheth were not descended from Noah and thus potentially had Nephilim genes in them.


(Completely disagree with all of it:

See above about:

"He destroyed his creation:

"both man, and beast, 

and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air"


The Nephilim were not his creation and therefore

some of them survived the flood.


As to the question of Noah's daughters in laws

and their bloodlines having been polluted?


Not if they were virgins.

"The "Giant" gene as it were 

was from the male line.


Every time we see Angels present themselves as persons in scripture, they are presented as men, would be my evidence for that contention.)


"Moses Defeats Og of Bashan, One of the Last Rephaim (Deuteronomy 3)


"Israel was afraid of the giants in the land of Canaan, and it would have to be a later generation that dealt with the giants under Joshua’s leadership. However, Israel still had to deal with a giant while in the in the wilderness, Og of Bashan. As Israel went up the way to Bashan, King Og came out against them for battle. 


(Reference: Thursday, June 11, 2026

"The Bulls of Bashan", The Assyrian Series Continues (Excerpt from the soon to be posted: Chuck Missler study of biblical angels "practical conclusions" part 4, Warning! Yet Again..


Yahweh gave Og into Israel’s hand, and they “devoted” Og’s people to destruction (herem), leaving no survivors, just as they had done to Sihon king of the Amorites (Deuteronomy 3:6). (This victory is celebrated in Psalm 135:11 and 136:20.) We are told that both Og and Sihon were considered Amorite kings (Deuteronomy 3:8). Then we read this fascinating verse: 


For only Og the king of Bashan was left of the remnant of the Rephaim. Behold, his bed was a bed of iron. Is it not in Rabbah of the Ammonites? Nine cubits was its length, and four cubits its breadth, according to the common cubit (Deuteronomy 3:11). 


(See: Evidence for King Og's iron bed?)


Seeing that a cubit was about 18 inches, Og’s bed was about 13 feet 6 inches long. This suggests he was a giant. On top of this, Og is said to be the last remnant of the Rephaim. Both Joshua 12:4 and 13:12 also say Og was of the remnant of the Rephaim, which the LXX interestingly translates as “giants” (γιγάντων). 


Who were the Rephaim? They were likely the descendants of a giant named Rapha. Rapha (רָפָה) is mentioned six times in the Bible (2 Samuel 21:16, 18, 20, 22; 1 Chronicles 20:6, 8), in contrast to the more common plural Rephaim (רְפָאִ֥ים). Though some translations like the ESV take this as “giants,” Rapha is probably a proper name. 


Deuteronomy 2 provides some interesting information about the Rephaim. It says the Rephaim were as “tall as the Anakim,” but were mostly wiped out by Yahweh (Deuteronomy 2:21). The Ammonites called the Rephaim by the name “Zamzummim” (Deuteronomy 2:20). Deuteronomy 2:10-11 says that the “Emim” were also as “tall as the Anakim,” but then it says that both the Anakim and Emim “are also counted as Rephaim.” This is important, as it links the Anakim with the Rephaim. While Og was one of the last of the Rephaim, there were still Rephaim in the land, namely the Anakim and the “descendants of Rapha” in 2 Samuel 21:16, 18, 20, 22. 


The prior information sheds interesting light on Genesis 14:5-7, where Chedorlaomer “defeated the Rephaim in Ashteroth-karnaim, the Zuzim in Ham, the Emim in Shaveh-kiriathaim, and the Horites in their hill country of Seir,” in addition to defeating Amalekites and Amorites. It seems Chedorlaomer fought three groups of giants—the Rephaim (the Septuagint actually translates Rephaim in Genesis 14:5 as γίγαντας, “giants”), the Zuzim (which is probably the Zamzummim of Deuteronomy 2:20), and the Emim (Deuteronomy 2:10-11). The Amorites may also have been giants. Amos 2:9-10 says, “the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars,” and Og was also an Amorite (Deuteronomy 3:8).  


What is all the more fascinating is that Abraham then went and defeated Chedorlaomer—the giant killer—in order to rescue his nephew Lot (Genesis 14:14-17). These groups, including the Amalekites, Amorites, and Anakim-Rephaim, were still in the land during the time of Joshua (Numbers 13:29, 33). Thus Abraham’s victory in Genesis 14 is a foretaste of Joshua’s later victories over the giants in the land of Canaan. 


"It is of note that the region of Bashan was in the land of the Rephaim. Og was king of Bashan, and Og was one of the Rephaim giants. But Deuteronomy 3:13 makes this land connection explicit—“The rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, the kingdom of Og, that is, all the region of Argob, I gave to the half-tribe of Manasseh. (All that portion of Bashan is called the land of Rephaim . . . ” Scripture calls this both the “land of the Rephaim” (Joshua 17:15) and the “Valley of Rephaim” (Joshua 18:16; 2 Samuel 5:18, 22; 23:13; 1 Chronicles 11:15; 14:9; Isaiah 17:5). Bashan is seen as a place of darkness in the Old Testament and may even be called the “mountain of the gods” (Psalm 68:15). The Hebrew הַר־אֱ֭לֹהִים (har elohim) can be translated as “mountain of God” (as per the ESV) or “mountain of gods” (so false gods/spirit beings) which may make more sense due to the negative associations with Bashan elsewhere. 


(Again Reference: Thursday, June 11, 2026

"The Bulls of Bashan", The Assyrian Series Continues (Excerpt from the soon to be posted: Chuck Missler study of biblical angels "practical conclusions" part 4, Warning! Yet Again..)


"The Rephaim are also associated in the OT with Sheol, the place of the dead. They are said to be inhabitants of Sheol in the following passages: Isaiah 14:9; 26:14, 19; Psalm 88:10; Job 26:5-6; Proverbs 2:18; 9:18; 21:16. The Hebrew Rephaim is in every one of these passages, yet you would never see this in the English if reading translations like the ESV, NASB, or KJV. Instead, the ESV uses words like “shades,” “dead,” and “departed.” If we leave Rephaim untranslated, this may reveal the role of the dead giants in Sheol, which is distinguished from other dead beings there. The Rephaim are said to rise up to greet the Babylonians when they sink down to Sheol in death (Isaiah 14:9). The false gods that Israelites at times worshipped are described as dead Rephaim that will not rise (Isaiah 26:14). The Psalmist asks whether the Rephaim will rise up to praise God (Psalm 88:10-11; cf. 88:3). The other passages highlight the Rephaim as inhabitants of Sheol (Job 26:5-6; Proverbs 2:18; 9:18; 21:16). 


Joshua and Caleb Drive Out the Anakim (Joshua 11; 14–15)


Once Israel entered the land of Canaan under Joshua's leadership, they had to face the Anakim that the spies in Numbers 13 had feared 40 years prior. Joshua had to be strong and courageous, but with Yahweh fighting for them, he was able to drive out the Canaanites, including the giants (Deuteronomy 1:30-31). 


Joshua and Caleb were the only two of the 12 spies who believed that Yahweh would give them victory 


(As demonstrated above 

it mirrors the two witnesses here 

and in other instances)


over the giants in the land (Numbers 13:30; 14:6-9), and thus they were the only two allowed to enter the land 40 years later (Numbers 14:30). It is therefore fitting that Joshua and Caleb drove out those giants, which they did by faith in Yahweh:


And Joshua came at that time and cut off the Anakim from the hill country, from Hebron, from Debir, from Anab, and from all the hill country of Judah, and from all the hill country of Israel. Joshua devoted them to destruction with their cities. There was none of the Anakim left in the land of the people of Israel. Only in Gaza, in Gath, and in Ashdod did some remain (Joshua 11:21-22). 





Joshua cut off the Anakim and “devoted” (herem) them to destruction (Joshua 11:21), thus carrying out Yahweh's command for Israel to “devote” the Canaanites to destruction (Deuteronomy 7:1-2). This practice is known as “the ban,” or simply by its Hebrew term חרם (herem), which means to “devote” something to God. The Israelites were to kill the Canaanites as an offering to Yahweh. Though not the primary point of God’s command, the destruction of the Canaanites included the giants who were in the land. Joshua only left the Anakim in three Philistine cities—Gaza, Gath, and Ashdod (Joshua 11:22). 


Caleb went to Joshua and said that he was as strong at 85 years of age as he was at 45, after 40 years of wandering in the wilderness (Joshua 14:6-11). Caleb then asked Joshua for Hebron, the land of the Anakim: 


"So now give me this hill country of which the LORD spoke on that day, for you heard on that day how the Anakim were there, with great fortified cities. It may be that the LORD will be with me, and I shall drive them out just as the LORD said. Then Joshua blessed him, and he gave Hebron to Caleb the son of Jephunneh for an inheritance. Therefore Hebron became the inheritance of Caleb the son of Jephunneh the Kenizzite to this day, because he wholly followed the LORD, the God of Israel. Now the name of Hebron formerly was Kiriath-arba. (Arba was the greatest man among the Anakim.) And the land had rest from war (Joshua 14:12-15)."


Hebron was the land of the three sons of Anak (Numbers 13:22). So Caleb received the land of Hebron and drove out the “three sons of Anak, Sheshai and Ahiman and Talmai, the descendants of Anak” (Joshua 15:14; cf. Judges 1:10, 20). Together, Joshua and Caleb drove out the giants that the 10 other spies feared 40 years before.


David Kills Goliath (1 Samuel 17)


As we have seen, Joshua left some Anakim remaining in the Philistine cities of Gath, Gaza, and Ashdod (Joshua 11:22). This is significant for several reasons. First, this means the task that God gave Israel to drive out the Canaanites was not complete (seen more clearly in Judges 1–2). Second, the Philistines, with whom the Anakim remained, became Israel’s chief enemy during the time of Samuel. And third, the Philistines’ champion in 1 Samuel 17 was from Gath.


(You could also make the case

this sets the stage for where we are right now

in regards to those three areas:

The West Bank, The Golan and Gaza.)


"This puts David’s battle with Goliath in proper context. Goliath was from Gath, one of the three Philistine cities where Anakim remained. Goliath also receives the most explicit description of a giant in all of Scripture: 


And there came out from the camp of the Philistines a champion named Goliath of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span. He had a helmet of bronze on his head, and he was armed with a coat of mail, and the weight of the coat was five thousand shekels of bronze. And he had bronze armor on his legs, and a javelin of bronze slung between his shoulders. The shaft of his spear was like a weaver’s beam, and his spear’s head weighed six hundred shekels of iron (1 Samuel 17:4-7). 


David did not just defeat some random giant that Saul and the Israelites feared. Rather, Goliath was a remnant of the Anakim that Israel was supposed to drive out of the land of Canaan. The Anakim apparently became aligned with Israel’s new enemy, the Philistines. In killing Goliath, David was finishing the task of herem in Deuteronomy 7 that Joshua began to carry out. 


Moreover, Goliath is called a gibbor (גִּבּוֹר), a “mighty man,” in 1 Samuel 17:51, associating him with the gibborim-Nephilim of Genesis 6:4. (The ESV translates gibbor as “champion” in 1 Samuel 17:51, but this is a different Hebrew word than that for “champion” in 17:4.) David, of course, proved to be his own gibbor in defeating Goliath (1 Samuel 16:18). 


There has been much discussion over Goliath’s height. The Hebrew text says he was six cubits and a span tall. A cubit was approximately 18 inches and a span nine inches, making Goliath 9 feet 9 inches tall. Many scholars prefer the reading of the Septuagint and an early Hebrew manuscript from Qumran (Dead Sea Scrolls), both of which say that Goliath was only four cubits and a span, or about 6’9”. In general, we should prefer the Hebrew Masoretic Text, unless we have good reason to go with alternate readings. There are problems with the MT textual tradition of 1-2 Samuel, so there may be a good reason to favor the alternate readings.[3] 


However, thinking 9’9” is too tall for a giant is not a good reason to reject the Hebrew text. We already saw that Og of Bashan had a bed that was over 13 feet long, which cannot be explained well if he were under seven feet tall. This should at least make us open to the idea of Goliath being closer to 10 feet tall. The four cubit and a span reading (6’9”) would make Goliath’s height less impressive, nine inches shorter than the five cubit (7’6”) Egyptian man killed by Benaiah, one of David’s mighty men (gibborim) (1 Chronicles 11:23-24).


There is the possibility that the Septuagint used the longer Egyptian cubit in its description, meaning the Septuagint was essentially in agreement with the Hebrew.[4] The alternative is that there are two variant manuscript traditions, with one of them in error. Most text critical scholars seem to favor the Septuagint and Hebrew DSS reading, but this position is not certain (and still has to explain why the MT has a different number). One principle of text criticism is to prefer the harder reading, and the 9’9” measurement is certainly the harder reading. 


It is also important to mention that Goliath wore “scale armor” (שִׁרְי֥וֹן קַשְׂקַשִּׂ֖ים, shiryon qasqasim) (1 Samuel 17:5). This armor weighed over 125 pounds, implying he was massive. Everywhere the term קַשְׂקַשִּׂ֖ים (qasqasim) is used in the OT, it means “scales” (Leviticus 11:9-10, 12; Deuteronomy 14:9-10; Ezekiel 29:4). The ESV only makes one exception, as it translates the word as “coat of mail” here in 1 Samuel 17:5. Though this translation is understandable because chain mail would resemble scales, it obscures an important connection with the serpent (and possibly Dagon). 


Scale armor ramps up the significance, as it connects Goliath with the serpent himself. Goliath was the seed of the serpent, and David was of the seed of the woman. Whether Goliath was the biological offspring of the serpent (through the Nephilim) or merely the spiritual offspring, there is a connection with Genesis 3:15. David killed Goliath with a stone to the head, and then he cut off Goliath’s head (1 Samuel 17:48-51). David, the seed of the woman, crushed the head of the seed of the serpent. Thus David’s defeat of Goliath is ultimately a picture of Christ conquering the devil. 


The scale armor may also connect Goliath with the Philistine god Dagon, who was possibly a god of the sea. Goliath had cursed David “by his gods,” but in the end it was Goliath who was cursed (1 Samuel 17:43). Like his god Dagon, Goliath fell facedown and his head was cut off (1 Samuel 17:49-51; cf. 5:3-4). Israel’s first king, Saul, fought a serpent in his first battle against Nahash (Hebrew “serpent”), king of the Ammonites, and here David faced his own serpent. David passed the test by defeating the giant serpent and cutting off his head. David was better than Saul, the tall man who feared the Philistine giant (1 Samuel 17:11). 


David and His Men Finish Off the Giants 

(2 Samuel 21; 1 Chronicles 20)


In addition to Goliath, 

David and his men killed four other giants—all from Gath:


. . . And Ishbi-benob, one of the descendants of the giants, whose spear weighed three hundred shekels of bronze, and who was armed with a new sword, thought to kill David. But Abishai the son of Zeruiah came to his aid and attacked the Philistine and killed him . . . Then Sibbecai the Hushathite struck down Saph, who was one of the descendants of the giants. And there was again war with the Philistines at Gob, and Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, the Bethlehemite, struck down Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam. And there was again war at Gath, where there was a man of great stature, who had six fingers on each hand, and six toes on each foot, twenty-four in number, and he also was descended from the giants. And when he taunted Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimei, David’s brother, struck him down. These four were descended from the giants in Gath, and they fell by the hand of David and by the hand of his servants (2 Samuel 21:15-22).


Comparing the parallel passage of 1 Chronicles 20:4-8, we observe the following about these giants. Abishai killed the giant Ishbi-benob. Sibbecai killed the giant Saph. (1 Chronicles 20:4 says Sippai, which is probably a variant of the same name). Elhanan killed Goliath the Gittite (though 1 Chronicles 20:5 says he struck down “Lahmi the brother of Goliath”).[5] And Jonathan (David’s nephew) killed the unnamed 24-digit giant.  


These four men are described as Rapha (רָפָה), which the ESV translates as “giants” (2 Samuel 21:16, 18, 20, 22; 1 Chronicles 20:6, 8). The description of Rapha is related to the word for Rephaim (רְפָאִ֛ים). This connection is made explicit in the use of the plural Rephaim (רְפָאִ֛ים) in 1 Chronicles 20:4 for Sippai and the use of the singular Rapha (רָפָה) for Saph in 2 Samuel 21:18. (Saph and Sippai are likely variant spellings of the same name.) While 2 Samuel 21:15-22 uses the singular Rapha four times, 1 Chronicles 20:4-8 uses Rapha once and the plural Rephaim twice (1 Chronicles 20:6, 8). 


As noted above, Rapha is probably a proper name of a giant from whom Goliath was descended. To make the connections clear, the Anakim were “considered” Rephaim (Deuteronomy 2:11, 21). This makes sense, as Goliath and his relatives are associated with both the Anakim and the Rephaim. They were killed by David and his own “mighty men” (גִּבֹּרִ֖ים, gibborim, contra the “mighty men” of Genesis 6:4) (2 Samuel 23:8). 


Conclusion—Giants Today 


The story of giants starts with the mysterious Nephilim in Genesis 6:4, 

who were wiped out by the flood. 



("He destroyed his creation:

"both man, and beast, 

and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air"

The Nephilim were not his creation and therefore

some of them survived the flood.)


However, the Nephilim are linked with the later Anakim and Rephaim. Ten of the 12 Israelite spies feared going into the land of Canaan because they saw giant Anakim there, and Numbers 13:33 says they came from the Nephilim. Deuteronomy 2:11 says the Anakim were part of the giant group known as the Rephaim. And while in the wilderness, Moses defeated the giant Og of Bashan, who was one of the remaining Rephaim. After wandering in the wilderness for 40 years, Joshua and Caleb—the two faithful spies—then drove out the giant Anakim from Canaan. They “devoted” the Anakim to destruction, though they left some Anakim in Philistine territory (Joshua 11:21-22). One of those cities was Gath, from where Goliath hailed. 


Thus the giant Goliath represented not just the Philistines, but the dreaded Anakim—which even Joshua could not fully defeat. Goliath and his fellow Anakim were also considered Rephaim (2 Samuel 21:15-22; cf. Deuteronomy 2:11). And if the Anakim were descended from the Nephilim (as Numbers 13:33 claims) and the Nephilim were the children of fallen angels and women (Genesis 6:4), then this would make Goliath the biological offspring of the serpent (Genesis 3:15). Goliath’s connection to the Nephilim is strengthened by his description as a gibbor, a “mighty” one (1 Samuel 17:51; cf. Genesis 6:4). Furthermore, Goliath wore serpent-like “scale armor” (1 Samuel 17:5). This was a battle between the seed of the woman, David, and the seed of the serpent, the giant gibborim-Nephilim-Anakim-Rephaim warrior named Goliath. By defeating Goliath and his relatives, David completed the conquest that Joshua began. 


There is no mention of giants in Scripture after the time of David. As far as we know, the gibbor David (1 Samuel 16:18) and his group of gibborim (2 Samuel 23:8) brought an end to the giants, those gibborim of old (Genesis 6:4). There are no more Nephilim, Anakim, or Rephaim on the earth. 


(It is their spirits 

 being conjured up

and given "abodes"

that concern us today.


See:

Thursday, June 11, 2026

Chuck missler study of biblical angels 

"practical conclusions" part 4, 

Warning! Yet Again...


"Calling up spirits 

and giving them habitations to live in

and people just do not understand:


THIS IS THE GASOLINE ON THE FIRE

of why the world is in the shape that it is today."


"The typical sermon on Goliath today encourages Christians to “slay the giants” in their lives, usually referring to sin and the fears of life. Advocates of redemptive-historical preaching often criticize this example of how preachers cover the Goliath story. However, there may be something to considering our own giants to slay—not primarily our individual enemies, but rather those of the church."


"connection is seen when we understand that the Promised Land typifies the whole world in which we dwell.


(New Heaven and a New earth Revelation 21.)


Now that King Jesus has come, the whole earth belongs to Him (Matthew 28:18; Romans 4:13). And just as there were giants in the land of Canaan that needed to be driven out, the earth today is filled with Christ’s enemies. The spiritual giants, including unbelief and false teaching, must be driven from the earth so that all will come to saving faith in Christ. However, this is a spiritual war, not one of flesh and blood (Ephesians 6:12). 


Jesus defeated the serpent on the cross, along with all spiritual forces opposed to God and His people (Colossians 2:15). And in the end, He will have victory. The nations will be converted, and the spiritual giants will be defeated. In the power of Christ, we now drive out His enemies through the faithful preaching and teaching of God’s Word. It is a hard task we have been given, and just like the Israelites, we must trust the Lord to bring it about.    


[1] The Septuagint also translates גִּבֹּרִ֛ים (gibborim) as γίγαντες (gigantes, “giants) in Ezekiel 32:21, 27, a passage that may describe giants and their place in Sheol after death. Nimrod was a גִּבֹּ֖ר (gibbor), which the Septuagint also translates as γίγας (“giant”) in Genesis 10:8-9. 

[2] Michael Heiser, The Unseen Realm, 107.

[3] See Daniel J. Hays, “Reconsidering the Height of Goliath,” JETS 48.4 (2005), 702–715, who discusses the textual issues and argues for the shorter height. 

[4] See Clyde E. Billington, “Goliath and the Exodus Giants: How Tall Were They?” JETS 50.3 (2007), 489–508., who criticizes Hays’ article from two years prior and instead argues that Goliath was about eight feet tall. Hays then responded to Billington: Daniel J. Hays, “The Height of Goliath: A Response to Clyde Billington,” JETS 50.3 (2007), 509–516.       

[5] 2 Samuel 21:19 says, “Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, the Bethlehemite, struck down Goliath the Gittite.” 1 Chronicles 20:5 says, “Elhanan the son of Jair struck down Lahmi the brother of Goliath the Gittite.” So which is it? There are three possibilities. The first possibility is that 2 Samuel left out “Lahmi the brother of” from the text. This would make sense because 1 Samuel 17 says that it was David who killed Goliath, not Elhanan. It is also the case that the text of 2 Samuel 21:19 appears to be corrupted, seen in that it describes Elhanan as “the son of Jaare-oregim.” The word “oregim” (אֹרְגִ֜ים) is the same word used at the end of the verse for “weaver” and is not in 1 Chronicles 20:5, which only says “son of Jair.” The second possibility, suggested by the NET notes, is that 1 Chronicles 20 corrupted the word for “Bethlehemite” (בֵּ֣ית הַלַּחְמִ֗י) and instead created the word “Lahmi” with the direct object marker (אֶת־לַחְמִי֙). The problem with this latter is that it requires too much change. The direct object marker is still in 2 Samuel 21:19, and 1 Chronicles 20:5 also adds the word “brother” (אֲחִי֙). The third option is that there were two giants named Goliath. David killed Goliath in 1 Samuel 17, and Elhanan killed the other Goliath in 2 Samuel 21/1 Chronicles 20. This latter Goliath was also known as Lahmi, making him both “Goliath” and “Lahmi the brother of Goliath.” The fourth option, a variation of the latter, is that Goliath was a more general term for “giant.” 



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