Is there anything new to learn
from the ‘alien files’?
NPR 5/13/26
And me and honey both said
before they were even released
No, no there would not be:
"Anything new."
If the files
that were recently released really were:
"Long secret"
as claimed?
Then somebody(s)
had to have known
about them
otherwise they wouldn't be able to claim they were:
"Long secret"
See how hard that was?
DUH...
People please...
What follows
is the transcript from the NPR link above:
"SCOTT DETROW, HOST:
It's CONSIDER THIS, where every day we go deep on one big news story. Today, what is in a trove of government files related to unidentified anomalous phenomena? That is the new term for what we used to call UFOs. Now, a few decades ago, flying saucers and UFOs were the sort of thing you would see relegated to the tabloids. But in 2023, that changed.
(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)
RYAN GRAVES: We were primarily seeing dark gray or black cubes inside of a clear sphere.
JAMIE RASKIN: I'm sorry. Dark gray or black cubes?
GRAVES: Yes, inside of a clear sphere where the apex...
DETROW: The House Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs called a hearing on UAPs and invited witnesses like former Navy fighter pilot Ryan Graves, who you heard there being questioned by Maryland Democrat Jamie Raskin. Retired Air Force intelligence officer David Grusch made some pretty explosive allegations about crashed alien spacecraft to South Carolina Republican Nancy Mace.
(See:
Wednesday, June 7, 2023
Locust from the abyss
for more about Mr. Grusch and his testimony.
"In his statements
cleared for publication by the Pentagon
in April, Grusch asserted...
His testimony was only put forth and
cleared by the pentagon
to counter the truth of what was said here:
Friday, June 18, 2021
Luis Elizondo, Former AATIP Director,
on UFOs and National Security
(Advanced Aerospace Threat and Identification Program)
Elizondo has went on to say he was subsequently harassed
and threatened after making those remarks.
"Written Testimony of
Luis Elizondo
For the U.S. House Committee on Oversight and Accountability Subcommittees on Cybersecurity, Information Technology, and Government Innovation; and National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs
Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena:
Exposing the Truth Wednesday, November 13, 2024
See:
Wednesday, November 20, 2024
"The Community"
for his complete written testimony.)
"(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)
NANCY MACE: If you believe we have crashed craft, as stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft?
DAVID GRUSCH: As I've stated publicly already in my NewsNation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries, yeah.
MACE: Were they, I guess, human or nonhuman biologics?
GRUSCH: Nonhuman, and that was the..."
(Non-human biologics could be microbes or any kind of organic molecules or no telling what coming about by chemical processes or other processes for goodness sakes.
LIFE REQUIRES INFORMATION
INFORMATION REQUIRES A BRAIN!
PLUS:
Wednesday, June 12, 2024
Good Reasons NOT to believe in Aliens...
Interviewer:
So even if we were to travel at 1/10 the speed of light its 20 million years, so the point here is I think you are making is if there was extraterrestrial life out there it couldn't visit us because it doesn't have the time to visit us."
Gary Bates:
"Not in spacecraft."..."G forces is another one you mentioned"..."The acceleration, you would be splattered..." "And radiation, because radiation even if we are looking at manned missions to Mars, were talking several years in duration, the effect of weightlessness the effect of cosmic radiation on the body etc..." As your speed increases your mass increases and Einstein theorized and there's good experimental evidence to suggest this, from what we do know, that as you approach the speed of light, your mass becomes infinite, so youve got to use an infiniate amount of energy to try to get to the speed of light, what does all that mean?
BASICLLY ITS IMPOSSIBLE."
This is what reasonable, logical, rational people
are beginning to come around to the idea of:
There is just no way.
And that is why the release of all the:
"Long secret"
(that really weren't or we wouldn't have known that)
UAP files recently.)
"DETROW: Fast-forward to this year. President Trump ordered the Defense Department to start releasing the government's files on alien and extraterrestrial life.
(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Anything having to do with UFO or related material.
DETROW: He teased the release last month at the White House with the Artemis II astronauts standing behind him.
(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)
TRUMP: I interviewed some pilots, very solid people, and they said they saw things that you wouldn't believe. So you're going to be reading about it."
(Depends on your faith and how deep it's roots go.)
"DETROW: CONSIDER THIS - that first batch of, quote, "alien files" is now out. So is there anything new to learn?"
(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)
DETROW: From NPR, I'm Scott Detrow.
(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)
DETROW: It's CONSIDER THIS FROM NPR. Accounts of flying discs, floating and then disappearing metallic orbs and a mysterious cylinder tumbling through space near an Apollo spacecraft. These were just some of the details contained in government reports recently released by the Department of Defense. Now, some of this information about unidentified anomalous phenomena, or UAPs, has long been in the public domain in one form or another. But the DOD report, coming on President Trump's orders, was another step toward the federal government taking the question of UAP more seriously. We're going to talk about all of it with Adam Frank, an astrophysicist at the University of Rochester involved in the search for intelligent life.
(How about we start looking here on Earth first
since people these days cant even figure this out:
"If the files
that were recently released really were:
"Long secret"
as claimed?
Then somebody(s)
had to have known
about them
otherwise they wouldn't be able to claim they were:
"Long secret"
"Welcome to All Things Considered.
ADAM FRANK: Oh, it's my pleasure.
"DETROW: So let's start here. In your piece for The Atlantic about these so-called alien files, your first line reads, spaceships. That's all I'm asking for.
Just one actual stinking spaceship.
Fair to say you were unimpressed by this?
FRANK: Yeah, because one of the things that's happened - so what I would call the modern era of UFOs, right? When I was a young scientist back in the '80s, you know, UFOs were just tin-hat sort of stuff. Nobody took them seriously at all.
(He is 2 years older than me so yeah, same era.)
"And then there was that New York Times article in 2017, which said, oh, there is actually a Pentagon program studying this. And then there's been these hearings, these explosive congressional hearings, where you've seen these former intelligence agents saying that we actually have - you know, the United States and other countries are routinely capturing crashed spaceships and that we've got alien biologics or nonhuman - I think the term they use is nonhuman biologics."
"So these are, you know, really extreme claims that people are making. I expected, given all that, that this disclosure - wow, we're finally going to get the government disclosing documents. And it turns out it's just more the same."
("Extraordinary claims
require extraordinary evidence"
~
Carl Sagan
And they just dont have any:
"it turns out it's just more the same."
Same as honey and I said
it was going to be
before they were ever released.
And we are not by any means
"Astrophysicist.")
"DETROW: Yeah.
"FRANK: Fuzzy blob videos or photos and unverifiable personal testimony."
(Thats an astrophysicist for goodness sakes!)
"DETROW: And there's been a lot of, like, compelling and serious conversation about that in recent years. Why do you think it is that it doesn't get more attention, that it doesn't make more of a mainstream foothold when there are videos from the Pentagon showing objects that seem to be moving in very strange ways?"
FRANK: Well, I'm actually going to push back a little bit on that. I think, you know, for - as a scientist, one of the things we've seen is that there has been an enormous outpouring of sightings and videos. But the hard fact is that most of these videos can be explained, you know, and that most of the claims that are being made about them are unverifiable. And so, you know, you've got this mix of genuine interest in what's happening - what are these sightings about? Are they about peer-state adversaries and their technological capacities? - as well as a conflation of this with, are we seeing things from outer space?
(From
Friday, June 18, 2021
Luis Elizondo, Former AATIP Director,
on UFOs and National Security
(Advanced Aerospace Threat and Identification Program)
"Mr. Elizondo goes on to say:
"Its foreign adversarial or it's something quite different."
"The director of national intelligence does not think it's Russian or Chinese technology."
"All describing a craft performing in ways well beyond our current capability."
"If you had this type of technology you probably wouldn't need to invest so much in military, because if you will you had this "checkmate" type technology/capability where everything else is obsolete."
It's five years later!
Why are people even still talking about the possibility of:
"peer-state adversaries and their technological capacities?"
It was ruled out five years ago already!
This is what
"This is what reasonable, logical, rational people"
can EASILY conclude!)
"And as an astrophysicist, I'm, of course, deeply interested in things from outer space. But there's always been a deep problem for us as scientists, is that the data that we're being shown you can't do anything with. So that's really the mix that's going on here."
(What needs to be understood is that mix is by design
so that you can not distinguish the truth from a lie.)
"DETROW: Look, I really appreciate you being the Scully to my Mulder in this conversation.
FRANK: (Laughter) I'm so sorry, man.
DETROW: In addition to that, though, I will say that I was among many people reading this thinking, like, get a load of these Apollo 11 transcripts, to be gently and not so gently reminded that, in fact, those transcripts had been released to the public for 50 years at this point. Given that, given the way that President Trump talked about this, saying, like, you know, have fun - or essentially that - is this a serious exercise by the federal government to you?
(Once Again:
"What needs to be understood is that "mix" is by design
so that you can not distinguish the truth from a lie.)
FRANK: It doesn't seem actually very serious.
(It was only to the social engineering
I mean media lol bot net
and uninformed American Evangelicals
who this was so obviously targeted to.
As they were the only ones at the
"Secret Meeting"
that was held prior to release of these
"Long secret" UAP files.)
"You know, there's actually - as I was going through the documents, I found, you know, it was a report about launch failures on, you know, reentry vehicles or - it was like, wait, what is this even doing here? It's like somebody just typed in space, you know, into the government database, and then just grabbed a bunch of stuff and threw it in there. That document had nothing to do with UFOs or UAPs. So this actually doesn't feel very serious. I am all in favor of disclosure, but I'm very skeptical, particularly of the claims made in those congressional hearings. I just see a lot of terrible science happening."
("Extraordinary claims
REQUIRE
extraordinary evidence."
Where is it?
And:
"I just see a lot of terrible science happening."
So do the members of this community
as we KNOW:
Life requires information.
Information requires a brain.
No exception ever.
Natural law.
That is what this community
KNOWS
based on the "true" science.
Not based on the faith-based cult of
scientism that they try to pass off
as science these days.)
"DETROW: Given all of that, if it were up to you, what would you like to see the government do next? What do you think the responsible way to move forward and kind of engage in these questions would be?
FRANK: The government has been involved in studying this for 70 years. So there's a lot of documents, right? There's going to be a lot of documents. And I just think it's great that, OK, release all those documents. If there's anything in there that actually leads us somewhere, that's what I'd like to see.
And I want - you know,
if we actually have alien bodies,
you know, in a refrigerator in someplace
or we have captured alien spaceships,
you know scientists have done
huge amounts of studies on them.
So at least,
if you're not going to show me the alien bodies,
there must be pages and pages and pages
of the results of those scientific studies.
So at least show us that."
(This is the exact point
me and honey were getting at a good while back.
Everybody already believes this nonsense anyway,
so if you got the goods so to speak?
Then why not go ahead and pony up with em?
Who is going to be surprised?
And Adam frank's point is extremely valid here:
If you are not going to show us the alien bodies
or the materials from crashed "craft"?
Then at least let independent scientist examine the
studies that have been done on them,
cause anything else is just going to be more
of what we have already seen.
THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT IN POSSESSION
OF ANY PHYSICAL EVIDENCE
OF THIS NONSENSE.)
"And at some point, if you can't show us that, then it's just a story. These are just stories that have been circulating around forever. And there's much better places to put our time in terms of we're interested in the study of life in the universe. Like, if the government really wants to do something, then it can continue to fund something like NASA's Habitable Worlds Observatory, which we're building, which will be able to see into the atmospheres of distant alien worlds and search for alien life there."
"DETROW: You heard it from Adam Frank.
Bodies or it didn't happen.
(I would add as well show us the
"Craft" or it didn't happen.)
"Adam Frank is an astrophysicist at the University of Rochester. Thank you so much. Even though I'm a little disappointed by the outcome of this conversation, thank you so much for walking us through (laughter)."
"FRANK: I'm sorry. I know. I'm like Mr. Bummer. But, you know - but the thing people - I mean, it's - what's beautiful is people have this interest in the night sky. They should keep that. All the mystery, all the wonder, is there. But it's the stars and it's all the planets we've discovered orbiting those stars. So there's more than enough mystery and wonder to go around.
DETROW: Adam Frank, thank you so much.
FRANK: My pleasure."
And that was from an Astro-physicsit
who looks for life
outside this planet and solar system.
You are either:
Logical, rational and well informed
or your not.
I dont know about you
but this community
worships in truth.
John 4:24
God is a Spirit:
and they that worship him
must worship him
in spirit
and in truth.
"If there are aliens
God made them."
Simply
isnt allowed
anywhere near us,
PERIOD.
One owner of the life force.
He proved it by conquering death.
See how hard that was?