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Time existed before the Big Bang

"Time is fundamental, space is not."

Lee Cronin | 

Regius Professor of Chemistry, 

University of Glasgow, 

Fellow of the Royal Society of Edinburgh, 

and Royal Society of Chemistry.

I 100% disagree.

"In the beginning god created the Heavens..."

Space is the third thing mentioned in the creation story behind time ("In the beginning) and energy. (God created.)

Time, space, energy and matter all came into existence at the same time as they are all dependent on one another, 

All are "fundamental."

Exactly.

What he just said.

It's a three legged stool of time, space and matter 

and you have to have energy to put it together.

"Time is fundamental, space is not."

Why have space if you're not gonna know how old it is again?

And if you're going to have matter?

Dont you have to have a place (space) to put it?

Doesn't that kinda make space 

"Fundamental"?

But I digress.

Remember.

He's a chemistry professor.

Off we go...

"According to the idea of the block universe, the passage of time is an illusion. The past, present and future all coexist, along with space, in one big frozen block in which nothing ever happens. But the emergence of life and the existence of genuine novelty in our corner of the cosmos contradict this picture. The passage of time is not an illusion, it’s a fundamental aspect of reality, something that existed before even The Big Bang. By studying the nature of novelty, the life sciences could help us prove time fundamentalism, argues Lee Cronin."

"According to the idea of the block universe, the passage of time is an illusion. The past, present and future all coexist, along with space, in one big frozen block in which nothing ever happens."

(That my friends is how God and God alone experiences time. "...past, present and future all coexist." Not us. Ever.)

 "But the emergence of life and the existence of genuine novelty in our corner of the cosmos contradict this picture."

(No kidding.

What is there to have to prove then?

"in one big frozen block in which nothing ever happens."

The idea itself is just asinine.)

"I think that time is the most misunderstood aspect of reality."

(That I 100% can agree with. It most certainly is.)

"Fundamental time removes the need for order at the Big Bang,..."

(It doesn't matter if it removes the "need" fact is things were extremely structured at the beginning and then fine tuned over time, implying some kinda transcendent ingredient is at play in the universes evolution. Whatever could that transcendent ingredient be I wonder?)

 "it removes the need for an explicit second law of thermodynamics or for causality itself to emerge."

(Same thing, you may remove the "need" that doesn't change what transpired.)

 "Generally speaking, a theory is stronger the fewer assumptions it needs to make. That is the great advantage of time fundamentalism. Moreover, seeing time as fundamental has the advantage that it tallies with our own experience."

(So what are you trying to get at exactly again?

Sounds like:

"You know that thing we know?"

"Yeah?"

"Well we know it."

...

Guy walks away scratching his head like...

"Why we even talking about what we know already is etc...)

"The difficulty in imagining a universe 

where only time existed first is very hard..."

(Nah...

Not really.

"In the beginning

There's a reason time came first...had to.)

"If it is space that is emergent, then the origin of the universe – the Big Bang – is merely the point in time where space emerged from time. But it was not the beginning of time itself, something much harder to make sense of."

(Time space energy and matter were all

emergent. 

They just dont create themselves people.

They didn't "Evolve"

(Neither did consciousness but that's another day.)

It doesn't matter how much you dont like it.

Or how much you dont wanna think about it.

Or how much it disrupts your world view etc.

Time space energy and matter just dont create themselves all at what humans would perceive tobe the same time.)

For the second point?

See the reference above.)

"The idea of the block universe that dominates contemporary theoretical physics, a timeless universe as I like to call it, confronts us with a profound problem because it is entirely deterministic and allows no room for novelty, and is entirely deterministic. What I mean by this is that in principle, if you had a large enough computer and could input the initial conditions then the universe would automatically unfold as predicted and you could slide forward and backwards in time in the universe just by moving on the time axis. According to the concept of the block universe, the past, present, and future all exist equally and simultaneously as an unchanging and eternal "block" of time.  From this point of view, time is not something that flows or passes by, but rather is an unchanging dimension that already contains the entirety of the past, present, and future. Every event, from the Big Bang to the end of the universe, already exists within this block, and our perception of time as a linear progression is an illusion."

Alright.

Lots to cover.

"The idea of the block universe that dominates contemporary theoretical physics..."

(None of these guys ever push an agenda over science right?

Yeah...sure. I think we know better.

Some of em anyway.)

"a timeless universe as I like to call it, confronts us with a profound problem because it is entirely deterministic and allows no room for novelty...

"What I mean by this is that in principle, if you had a large enough computer and could input the initial conditions then the universe would automatically unfold as predicted and you could slide forward and backwards in time in the universe just by moving on the time axis."

(It's not what happened.

There was an active transcendent agent "fine tuning" the universe while it was unfolding. 

"if you had a large enough computer and could input the initial conditions then the universe would automatically unfold as predicted" 

(That wouldn't work anyway just like Meyers in his book The return of the God Hypothesis states and I am paraphrasing here: All that universe unfolding takes time and information. If it doesn't have the information how will the universe know how to unfold? So you have to have info that has to survive the intense heat of the big bang, and then not have it's signal degraded after being stretched by traveling close to 14 billion years at the speed of light or greater...(space isn't a vacuum). 

It's just beyond preposterous.

(And these people get paid to come up with this stuff?)

"slide forward and backwards in time in the universe 

just by moving on the time axis"

(There are various time axes...

You'll see. 

:-).

"According to the concept of the block universe, the past, present, and future all exist equally and simultaneously as an unchanging and eternal "block" of time.  From this point of view, time is not something that flows or passes by, but rather is an unchanging dimension that already contains the entirety of the past, present, and future. Every event, from the Big Bang to the end of the universe, already exists within this block, and our perception of time as a linear progression is an illusion.'

"past, present, and future all exist equally and simultaneously as an unchanging and eternal...

an unchanging dimension that already contains the entirety of the past, present, and future. Every event, from the Big Bang to the end of the universe, already exists within this."

(Funny

I didn't know theoretical physicist were a bunch of Calvinist.

:-).

OMGoodness that's a good one if you get it BTW.

But what does it sound like they are describing to you.

God exist in his own dimension.

It is past present and future all at the same time.

More on that here in a bit.

It's not a "block of time" they are describing, they are unknowingly describing the dimension of the Almighty alone.)

"our perception of time as a linear progression is an illusion."

Perception is our reality. 

We can only perceive what we are allowed to.

Even if it is an illusion.

There's plenty more illusions were dealing with 

than what people think

(Outside of the concept of time)

 I'll just say that much.)

"TUESDAY, APRIL 24, 2018

I

told Brother Joe, time isn't linear, it's cylindrical.

I had no idea what I was even saying.

He laughed and said:

"Time is linear Andrew"

:-).

Okay lol.

We experience time like the Blue ball.

Linear.

Straight line.

The future is ahead.

The past is behind.

And where we are now is the present.

Imagine the red ball.

When it's on the right side of the blue ball lets say that's it's future. When it's on the left side of the blue ball? Thats its past.

And where ever it is at that moment is obviously it's present.

Now imagine the red ball spinning so fast it's just a blur.

A "ring" as it were that just stays around the blue ball.

Thats all three at the same time.

That alone is Gods dimension.

Period.

(That piece links to time dilation as well.)

"The block universe concept is closely related to Einstein's theory of relativity, which suggests that the passage of time can vary depending on an observer's position and motion in space. It provides a way to reconcile the seemingly different experiences of time between different observers. The implications of the block universe view are significant, particularly in the realm of free will and determinism. If the future already exists, then it would seem to imply that our choices and actions are predetermined, and that the illusion of free will is just that - an illusion."

"The block universe concept is closely related to Einstein's theory of relativity...It provides a way to reconcile the seemingly different experiences of time between different observers."

(Agreed...I kinda just did the same in the example right above...)

"The implications of the block universe view are significant, particularly in the realm of free will and determinism. If the future already exists, then it would seem to imply that our choices and actions are predetermined, and that the illusion of free will is just that - an illusion."

"The implications of the block universe view are significant."

(Only in the sense that it describes an aspect of the dimension God exist in, outside of that? 

Completely irrelevant.

"But the emergence of life 

and the existence of genuine novelty 

in our corner of the cosmos 

contradict this picture."

of the "block universe.

And"

"Moreover, seeing time as fundamental 

has the advantage that it tallies 

with our own experience."

Like I said.

Why are we even discussing it then?)

"The biggest problem with a timeless universe is that 

it’s not able to predict the emergence of life, 

and more broadly, has no room for the generation of true novelty."

"So, can prime numbers exist independent of the time required to produce them? I think this is not possible."

(I agree but my question, as always, is...

Where did the math (prime number in this instance) come from?)

"I think the theory developed to quantify the complexity of molecules, assembly theory, might be able to quantify novelty. Assembly theory shows that for any given complex molecule, the lack of symmetry can be captured in its complexity if the molecule can be detected in abundance. Assembly theory, therefore, helps us understand how complex molecules might be produced in pre-biotic, biotic, and further work. Molecules with high assembly indexes have depth in time, that is they required a machinery to build them from scratch and this machinery has a historical contingency."

"Molecules with high assembly indexes have depth in time."

(Given everything that's needed for a complex molecule to come into existence. The sheer numbers of possible combinations for just one living cell to come into existence? The time to go through all the possible combinations of getting all the parts just right at just the right time? It would take longer than the universe is old...to just get one living cell. So yeah you can go ahead and chuck "Assembly theory" to the wayside.

And:

"they required a machinery to build them from scratch"

Just where did that come from?

How did it evolve?

Where is any evidence of it's existence?

Where did it get its information on how to assemble complex molecules from?

I mean come on people.

"they required a machinery to build them from scratch 

and this machinery has a historical contingency."

What does that sound like to you?

Again, they are describing God without even knowing it.)

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