Monday, July 28, 2025

3I/ATLAS no real new news but some other interesting tidbits...

 

I wrote:


OPEN CHALLENGE TO EVERY ASTROPHYSICIST, PARTICLE PHYSICIST, THEORETICAL PHYSICIST, COSMOLOGIST, ASTRONOMER OR ANYBODY ELSE


on Friday, July 25, 2025.


And now the news about this object 

has slowed down to next to nothing.


In the past

I have just absolutely 

silenced conversations 

 on social media, 

but the entire internet?


Hubble has been able to look at this thing for a while now, it along with the JWST were supposed to be the best platforms to detect signatures of gas molecules, so where are they?


And where are the articles about possible perturbations of orbits? Either of Mars or of 3I/ATLAS. Or the scientific papers about why there wont be perturbations.


Time to get your heads out of the sand, Avi Loeb is 100% correct  in that it is designed, but Aliens can not exist, so who designed it?


Anyway, two somewhat related articles, neither with any real "new news" about 3I/ATLAS.


A Rare Look at Mars’ Moons: 

NASA’s Europa Clipper 

Captures Phobos and Deimos Together

dailygalaxy.com  7/27/25


NASA’s Europa Clipper spacecraft captures 

a rare infrared image of Mars and its moons, 

Phobos and Deimos.




"In a remarkable moment during its journey toward Jupiter, NASA’s Europa Clipper spacecraft managed to capture a stunning image of Mars and its two moons, Phobos and Deimos, in one frame. This rare celestial alignment provides a striking view of these Martian bodies in infrared light, presenting new insights into our neighboring planet’s tiny moons. The Europa Clipper, originally designed to explore Europa, one of Jupiter’s most intriguing moons, is using its thermal imaging equipment to test its capabilities while en route to its final destination. The image was captured from over 560,000 miles away, marking a significant achievement for the spacecraft and offering new perspectives on Mars and its moons. As NASA continues to explore the mysteries of the outer solar system, this captivating photo serves as a testament to the intricate planning and advanced technology that powers such missions."


"Capturing the Trio: A Glimpse into the Far Reaches of Our Solar System

"While the spacecraft’s primary mission is to investigate Europa and its potential to harbor life beneath its icy surface, the Europa Clipper made a strategic detour to observe Mars. On February 28, the spacecraft’s infrared camera, the Europa Thermal Emission Imaging System (E-Themis), snapped 200 individual frames over a 20-minute period. The images were then pieced together to form a unified picture of the Red Planet and its moons in a vivid and surreal infrared display."

"The striking infrared image shows Mars as the focal point, surrounded by its two moons—Phobos, the larger, innermost moon, and Deimos, the smaller and more distant of the pair. The image beautifully illustrates the heat signatures of the three celestial bodies, with Mars being significantly brighter than its moons. The moons’ dimmer signatures are indicative of their faint glow, with Deimos appearing as a small dot in the upper left, while Phobos is closer to Mars and more distinct."

"This moment not only offers a rare celestial snapshot but also provides critical data for testing the spacecraft’s thermal imaging capabilities, which will be essential for studying Europa. As the Europa Clipper continues on its journey, the spacecraft’s advanced instruments will help NASA probe the icy moon’s subsurface, searching for potential signs of life."


"Infrared Imaging: Revealing the Hidden Heat of Space

"One of the most significant aspects of the Europa Clipper’s image is the use of infrared technology. The spacecraft’s thermal sensors are designed to detect heat rather than visible light, a key distinction in the way space bodies are observed. In this particular case, the spacecraft used the E-Themis camera to capture heat emissions from Mars, Phobos, and Deimos. By capturing these infrared signatures, scientists were able to examine the bodies of Mars and its moons from a completely new angle, revealing characteristics that would be invisible in standard optical imagery."

"The process behind capturing this image was not simple. Given the extreme distance between the spacecraft and Mars—over 560,000 miles—scientists had to overcome significant challenges to gather data on these distant bodies. To ensure the moons’ faint signatures were visible, engineers enhanced the brightness of the image during post-processing. This resulted in a clear view of the moons, which are around 250 times dimmer than Mars. The image gives viewers a unique opportunity to observe Mars and its moons in a way not typically available through traditional telescopic observation."

"Beyond just a pretty picture, this infrared snapshot provides valuable information about the thermal properties of these objects, contributing to ongoing studies on their composition and potential for future exploration."


"Phobos and Deimos: 
Mars’ Mysterious Moons"

"The two moons of Mars, Phobos and Deimos, are some of the least understood objects in the solar system. Despite being relatively close to Mars, they remain shrouded in mystery. Phobos, the larger of the two, measures about 14 miles across and orbits Mars three times a day. Deimos, the smaller moon, is about 7 to 8 miles in diameter and takes 30 hours to complete one orbit around Mars. Their small size and irregular shape have led many scientists to speculate about their origins."

"One of the biggest mysteries surrounding these moons is their formation. There are two leading theories. One suggests that Phobos and Deimos were once asteroids that were captured by Mars’ gravity. The other theory posits that they may have originated from Mars itself, possibly as debris created by a massive impact on the planet billions of years ago. Despite numerous missions and observations, the exact origin of these moons remains uncertain.


(Noticed what they left out?



By Brian Koberlein - 
November 22, 2024  

"This new model proposes an interesting middle way. Rather than an impact or direct capture, the authors propose a near miss by a large asteroid. If an asteroid passed close enough to Mars, the tidal forces of the planet would rip the asteroid apart to create a string of fragments."

All of this 
leaving all of this stuff out 
all the time:

Perturbiations

3rd theory about how Mars got its moons.

No signatures of gas molecules.

Those are all accidents?
Thats not intentional?

Alrighty then, 
have it your way etc...)


"The Europa Clipper’s image offers a rare chance to observe these two enigmatic moons alongside their host planet, a sight that is rarely seen together. The first time both moons were captured in a single image was in 2009 by the Mars Express orbiter, but this latest image offers a fresh perspective, showcasing the moons from a new vantage point."


"The Role of Gravity Assists in Space Exploration

One of the interesting aspects of the Europa Clipper’s mission is its use of gravity assists to alter its trajectory. In March, the spacecraft used Mars’ gravity to adjust its path on its journey to the outer solar system. A gravity assist is a technique used by spacecraft to gain speed and change their course by passing close to a planet, using the planet’s gravitational pull. This technique not only helps the spacecraft save fuel but also provides an excellent opportunity for collecting data about the planet being flown by."


"This encounter with Mars also allowed the spacecraft to test its instruments before heading deeper into the solar system. By capturing the Mars-Phobos-Deimos trio, the spacecraft successfully verified the capabilities of its thermal imaging tools, which will be used in the future to study Europa in greater detail. Once the spacecraft arrives at Jupiter in 2030, it will conduct a series of flybys over Europa, taking measurements of its surface and interior to learn more about its potential to support life."



"Did 3I/ATLAS Go Viral?

Avi Loeb's new piece 07/27/25


 "In recent decades, academia distanced itself from the public. Scientific advances are routinely communicated in press conferences where scientists speak to reporters like teachers in a classroom, encouraging questions but resisting debates. Funding is allocated to research directions within echo chambers that are detached from public questioning."


(True science points to a creator and they know it or we wouldn't be having fairytales like the multiverse being considered "scientific".

 They don't want the publics questions, they know the science points to a creator, a designer and they don't like it and that's just not science, true science goes wherever the evidence points whether they like it or not. They are supposed to be agnostic about the results, most are anything but these days.)


"The problem with this self-defeating approach is that science is fundamentally a work in progress, a learning experience where a sense of humility and raw-curiosity require collecting more data in the face of anomalies. Yes, mainstream scientists could be wrong irrespective of how confident they are about hypotheses. They can invest billions of dollars in searching for weakly-interacting massive particles as dark matter and not find what they are looking for, despite the confidence expressed in press conferences about the latest experiments and the compliments expressed in prize ceremonies that rewarded those who proposed these ideas without experimental evidence.


(They might as well be saying:

"We gotta keep rewarding the orthodoxy Jim")


"At the same time, when the possibility that interstellar objects might be technological in origin is proposed based on observed anomalies..."


(One more time:

3 billion character codes (DNA) 

do not evolve,

they do not self create, 

nor do they self assemble.

Codes require preplanning, 

logic and sequence 

and are thus 

the result of an intellect

and the exact opposite 

of randomness.

No randomness creating life here means

there is no randomness creating life anywhere else 

as the laws of nature apply 

to the entire universe and not just parts of it.

Information is always imputed 

by an outside source.

Always.


Avi likes sticking to his own orthodoxy

no matter how heterodoxical it is 

to the faith-based belief system of scientism. :-)


"— knowing that humanity launched interstellar probes over the past half century, comet “experts” are quick to ridicule it. 


(As they are the idea of a creator as well.)


"Regarding 3I/ATLAS, the Oxford astronomer Chris Lintott was quoted last week as saying: “Any suggestion that it’s artificial is nonsense on stilts, and is an insult to the exciting work going on to understand this object.” Lintott is the editor of the scientific journal Research Notes of the American Astronomical Society, and in that capacity — he asked me to remove any reference to the possibility that 3I/ATLAS might be artificial before accepting my paper for publication (accessible here).


What is 

"Nonsense on stilts" 

to me is

not accepting:


"3 billion character codes (DNA) 

do not evolve,

they do not self create, 

nor do they self assemble.

Codes require preplanning, 

logic and sequence 

and are thus 

the result of an intellect

and the exact opposite 

of randomness.

No randomness creating life here means

there is no randomness creating life anywhere else 

as the laws of nature apply 

to the entire universe not just parts of it.

Information is always imputed by an outside source."


Ignoring those facts listed above 

just isn't scientific.

Period.)


"Is it really an insult to consider a hypothesis in the context of figuring out anomalies regarding the nature of 3I/ATLAS? If the nature of dark matter happens to be a primordial black hole but for four decades mainstream astronomers argued that it is likely a weakly-interacting-massive-particle, should this suggestion be considered as “nonsense on stilts, and is an insult to the exciting work going on to understand this object”?


(Thats a great point :-)

I just laugh at em

Extraterrestrial life,

More subatomic particles

(to explain gravity, multiverse, extra dimensions etc)

they are just not gonna find any

as they just don't exist

and what a waste of taxpayer $ BTW.)


"By far the most likely outcome will be that 3I/ATLAS is a completely natural interstellar object, probably a comet, and the authors await the astronomical data to support this likely origin.


(This community does as well Avi.

Where are the gas molecules?

Why the sudden silence about 3I/ATLAS?

Why no mention of the theory 

about a close encounter with an asteroid 

having resulted in Mars moons etc?

Where's the articles about potential perturbations?)


"One of the main reasons I co-authored this second paper is to encourage observers to collect as much data as possible in order to prove this hypothesis wrong."


(Avi gets his hypothesis half right.

3I/ATLAS is designed alright

just not by extraterrestrials :-)


"After all, the work of science 

is to consider all possibilities 

until the evidence rules out 

all but one interpretation."


(Kinda disagree with that.

You dont have to 

rule out all of the other options

you just have to have 

an overwhelming amount of evidence 

pointing in one particular direction,

you know, 

like:

"three billion character codes don't evolve, 

they don't self create

and they don't self assemble

they require logic, 

preplanning

and sequence

they require an intellect behind them."


"Why is it far more reasonable to consider the search for anomalous radio signals as a techno-signature while treating the search for an alien artifact among the population of interstellar objects as “nonsense on stilts”? This choice is a matter of taste, not substantive reasoning."


(Agreed. It doesn't matter what the faith-based belief system is, the orthodoxy/status quo must be preserved at all cost, kinda like the Pharisees yup...)


"There is a huge invisible damage to innovation in science that results from the public ridicule towards “out-of-the-box” thinking. Of course, keeping the herd in a tight configuration might be the actual reason for the aggressive behavior of the herders towards individuals who deviate from the beaten path. This practice is common in religious cults, but science is supposed to be guided by evidence and not authority."


(Thanks Avi I couldn't have said it better myself.


The faith based belief system of

Scientism 

=

Religious cult.


They just ignore the data they don't like

Three billion character coeds etc...)


"Committees of mainstream scientists who decide how to allocate federal funds often resist investments in the search for extraterrestrial intelligence by arguing that it is too risky and might result in wasting taxpayers’ money."


(Maybe they know it is?

And?

Sure seems like we have invested enough 

and got 0 to lil return on it at this point.

If I could?

I would defund it all tomorrow.)


"Gatekeeping and ridicule are not the landscape I wished for 

when I started my scientific career 

45 years ago, around the time 

when Chris Lintott was born."


(Ouch, 

now he sounds like my friend

back in the day:


"B%#$@?

I got shirts older than you are."

:-).


"The ridicule of scientific hypotheses 

before gathering conclusive evidence 

is anti-scientific."


(Avi?

They just don't care.

You hit the nail on the head a minute ago

This isnt science anymore,

Its a cult

and it is one 

that just ignores evidence 

they don't like.)


"...This paper concludes with the following statement:


“Science begins with questions 

and derives its answers 

through evidence.


That kinda rules out 

the Multiverse fairy-tale now doesn't it?


And still no:


Evidence of gas molecules

coming from 3I/ATLAS


Mention of the theory of Mars moons 

coming from a fragmenting asteroid


Or Perturbations of Orbits


I wonder why that is?


Spiritual gift 

of Discernment:


Knowing what is being said

by what is not being said.


It just speaks for itself,

loud and clear,

it really does.








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