Q&A on the Long-Term Lessons from the Interstellar Visit of 3I/ATLAS
Avi Loeb Medium 10/08/25
"As of now, I assign a 30–40% likelihood that 3I/ATLAS
does not have a fully natural origin,
based on its seven anomalies that I listed here."
(Size is the anomaly that matters the most:
"...there isnt enough rocky material
in the interstellar medium
to produce something of this size."
Avi has said over and over.
(Paraphrasing.)
Funny thing about things that aren't supposed to exist to start with, they don't behave according to the rules that we think they should.)
"This low-probability scenario includes the possibility of a black swan event akin to a Trojan Horse, where a technological (Supernatural) object masquerades as a natural comet."
(Its not supposed to exist
but it does, that's not by any design or any extraterrestrial technology.
Thats outside the laws of physics as we know them.)
"My rank is likely to evolve in response to new data over the next few months, such as the observations by the Juice spacecraft during the month of November 2025,"
coming up here shortly.
"...the observations by hundreds of ground-based and space-based observatories during its closest approach of 3I/ATLAS to Earth at a geocentric distance of 269 million kilometers on December 19, 2025, as well as the data from the Juno spacecraft when 3I/ATLAS arrives within 54 million kilometers from Jupiter on March 16, 2026. These observations will also inform us of any non-gravitational maneuvers or fragmentation of 3I/ATLAS."
(That is the first time
I can remember having seen that word
"fragnentation"
in any article about 3I/ATLAS.
That,
along with perturbations in Mars orbit
as a result of it's close
encounter with 3I/ATLAS,
as well as any possible collision
that may have occurred
that we aren't being told about
are the three things I would have concerns about,
until they are all effectively ruled out.
Laugh all you want about the last possible issue, I wouldn't be sold on it not having happened until 3I/ATLAS gets around to the other side of the sun and we can tell for sure, I really wouldn't.
All these concerns about its trajectory being affected
by the CME that hit it head on
and where are all the updated trajectories for 3I/ATLAS,
after having been hit with the CME?
0.
None.
Not one issued.
Why?
And no pictures of the CME hitting it either?
Again, Why?
Funny thing about hyperbolic orbits,
they aren't bound
to the gravitational effects of the sun.)
So there was that.
And?
There is also this:
IFLscience 10/07/25
(At times that site can be clickbaitish, tabloidish etc
at other times it can be ahead of the curb so to speak.
This time it seems like it is of the later.)
"That mission is the European Space Agency’s JUICE, and it is going to be revolutionary. It involves an interplanetary spacecraft whose goal is to study the icy moons of Jupiter: Ganymede, Callisto, and Europa. It will characterize the interior of these worlds, which are likely to hide a liquid ocean, and even become the first spacecraft to enter orbit around a Jovian moon: Ganymede, the largest moon in the Solar System and the only one with a magnetic field."
"All that is due to happen in the early 2030s, and in the meantime, JUICE is slowly traveling in the inner Solar System. The path might seem peculiar, with flybys of Earth and Venus, but it allows the spacecraft to save fuel before getting to Jupiter."
"Serendipitously, it will also take JUICE relatively close to Comet 3I/ATLAS, just after the comet experiences the aphelion, its closest passage to the Sun. The comet will be 210 million kilometers (130 million miles) from the Sun, and JUICE will be 64 million kilometers (40 million miles) away. That’s almost half the distance between the Earth and the Sun, which is 1 astronomical unit (AU)."
(Just want to point out that "Serendipitously" was also used to describe finding 3I/ATLAS against a background of really bright starts to begin with as well as having an observatory (Rubin) that wasnt officially online when it "Serendipitously" just happened to be looking at the part of the night sky where 3I/ATLAS was.
So that's three separate occurrences "Serendipitously" happening with regard to one object that's to big to exist in a lil over three months.
"To many coincidences
isn't a coincidence.")
“JUICE will observe 3I/ATLAS between 2 and 25 November. We will be using 5 instruments: the camera, the near-infrared imaging instrument, the UV spectrometer, the sub-millimetre instrument, and a sensor to image neutral atoms. We are far away (0.5 Astronomical units), therefore, only remote sensing,” Olivier Witasse, ESA Project Scientist, told IFLScience."
(I got all excited when I read:
“JUICE will observe 3I/ATLAS between 2 and 25 November.
Even after reading:
"We are far away (0.5 Astronomical units), therefore, only remote sensing..."
I was thinking: "Hey, I thought we were gonna get a majority our info from the instruments orbiting or roving on Mars, now we got something thats gonna give us at least some data for almost a whole month!"
Dont get to excited
Read on.)
"JUICE is designed to operate around Jupiter, so it has been decided that the safest option is to take a peek at the closest proximity and then again a few weeks later, when it is safe to study it for a bit longer. The opportunity to check an interstellar comet up close could not be missed, and it is a new, unplanned test for the spacecraft."
“This campaign was unexpected for everybody! For JUICE, indeed, we are in a cruise phase during which there are thermal constraints, being relatively close to the Sun (with respect to the science phase around Jupiter). Therefore, no payload activities were expected to take place at this moment. However, given the uniqueness of these observations, it was decided to prepare this extra observation planning,” Witasse told IFLScience."
(Translation:
They cant use up all the crafts energy
before they get to where they are going
(Study Jupiter's moons).
You only have so much avaialbe
to get there
then be able to run the instruments etc.)
"The comet is currently being hidden by the glare of the Sun, so to keep an eye on it, last week, NASA and ESA deployed their robotic explorers on Mars. The first images from Mars might have been snapped, and more data is on its way. While it is exciting to use a spacecraft to see new details of an interstellar object, the celestial alignment means it will take a while for the data to arrive."
“Due to the position of JUICE with respect to Earth, the data rate is very low. We expect the data to be downloaded only in February 2026, so we need to be a bit patient,” Witasse told IFLScience."
(So much for getting excited about having a craft to watch 3I/ATLAS during almost the entire month of November. Watch how many other sites wont ever bring that up about the data taking till February to arrive. All you will hear is "JUICE is going to be observing from Nov 2 till Nov 25.")
"Comet 3I/ATLAS will be closest to Earth on December 19, though not very close. It will be 268 million kilometers (167 million miles) away."
(Still waiting on the update trajectory since the CME yo.
Why is nobody asking about
or reporting on that?)
So there was that.
And?
There is also this:
Two Spacecraft Orbiting Mars Just Spotted the Mysterious Interstellar Visitor
Futurism 10/08/25
"On Tuesday, the European Space Agency announced that two of its spacecraft orbiting the Red Planet had used their cameras to snap photos of the mysterious object, dubbed 3I/ATLAS, as it whizzed past over 18 million miles away from them."
"The photos were taken on October 3, when 3I/ATLAS made its closest approach to Mars, using the ExoMars Trace Gas Orbiter (TGO) and the Mars Express spacecraft."
"In a series of images captured with the TGO’s Color and Stereo Surface Imaging System (CaSSIS), a glowing dot can clearly be seen inching downward across the black expanse of space. That mobile dot is the coma of the interstellar object, which is widely believed to be a comet."
(Comets don't have tails pointing toward the sun
and a bunch of other things as well:
A Recap of the Anomalies of 3I/ATLAS
on the Day of Its Closest Approach to Mars)
"Deputizing the Mars spacecraft to try observe the comet was a literal shot in the dark, since both of their cameras are designed for imaging Mars’ well-lit surface, and not tiny specks in the night sky —..."
“This was a very challenging observation for the instrument,” Nick Thomas, principal investigator of the CaSSIS camera, said in a statement. “The comet is around 10,000 to 100,000 times fainter than our usual target.”
"While the coma is easily spotted, the CaSSIS image couldn’t distinguish the nucleus at its center. That’s because, as the ESA explains, imaging the less-than-a-mile-across nucleus
(That has yet to be confirmed BTW.)
“would’ve been as impossible as seeing a mobile phone on the Moon from Earth.”
"The Mars Express also turned its gaze towards the comet, but scientists are still examining the images to reveal it. Unlike the TGO’s instrument which was able to take pictures with a five second exposure, the Mars Express camera could only use an exposure time of half a second."
"The ESA’s announcement comes just a day after speculation that a fellow Martian explorer, the NASA Perseverance rover, had caught a glimpse of 3I/ATLAS, which appeared as a blurry, cylindrical streak."
"But that may not be the case. David Kipping, an astrophysicist famous for his work on exoplanets and who runs the YouTube channel Cool Worlds, was skeptical that the rover’s puny camera would’ve been able to spot the comet."
"On his social media, Kipping argued that the likelier explanation for what was actually depicted in the image was Phobos, the innermost of Mars’ two moons. Astrophotographer Simeon Schmauß agreed that it was almost certainly Phobos, and added that the Martian moon only appeared cylindrical because of the image’s long exposure."
(Or it was rattled around while taking the picture from the impact of 3I/ATLAS they don't want you to know about.
Where's the picture of the CME hitting it again?
Where are all the updated trajectory's since?
etc etc etc...
But this is the first time
Im going against Avi Loeb about 3I/ATLAS since July.
Im with theses guys.
This:
is Phobos,
not 3I/ATLAS.
Why?
Because it just makes more sense
and because NASA never said
those images were of 3I/ATLAS
and you have to consider what time
we are living in
and the cast of ass-clowns
running this shit show these days
in this country.
Throw in the shutdown w NASA etc etc etc...)
"Its chemistry is wildly different from the comets of our solar system, including having an unusually high ratio of carbon dioxide to water. Dazzling the eyes, it also began changing color before it disappeared behind the Sun."
(For more see:
A Recap of the Anomalies of 3I/ATLAS
on the Day of Its Closest Approach to Mars)
"Unpacking all the data gathered on the comet will take years. But in the meantime, the ESA says it’ll try take even more observations with 3I/ATLAS using its Jupiter Icy Moons Explorer (Juice). These photos are expected to be extra juicy — pun intended — because they’ll be capturing the comet right after it finishes its closest approach to the Sun, when it will be most active."
(Like I was saying above:
"Watch how many other sites wont ever bring that up about the data taking till February to arrive. All you will hear is "JUICE is going to be observing from Nov 2 till Nov 25.")
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