You know?
If you dont think they should be able to preach?
Then dont go to or be a part of a church that allows it.
See how difficult that was?
"But it is the word of God Andrew!"
Yeah well...
So is this:
Joel 2:28-29
28 And it shall come to pass
afterward,
that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh;
and your sons
and your daughters
shall prophesy,
your old men shall dream dreams,
your young men shall see visions:
29 And also upon the servants
and upon the handmaids
in those days
will I pour out my spirit.
There is a clear
eschatological framework
(End of this age)
for Joel 2
as the locust there
mirror the locust in
See: Tuesday, June 2, 2026
( the hopefully soon to be finished lol)
Chuck Missler Angels pt.3 "The Dark Side".
So when does:
"and your daughters
shall prophesy"
take place exactly?
Thats my question.
And why is Joel 2:28-29
always, intentionally
left out of this discussion?
I just can not stand cherry picking verses
to support favored positions, when other verses
clearly take precedence.
Never seen anybody
not one single person ever
who was defending a
"only males" can be preachers
posistion bring it up
and its pretty obvious to me
as to why that would be.
The whole thing hinges on one word:
"Afterward"
as this changes the situation.
So after what?
Becomes the question.
Remember this:
Peter announced the fulfillment
of this part of Joel 2
on the day of Pentecost.
Acts 2:14-21
14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:
21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
So when do "the male only" types
purpose that
"and your daughters shall prophesy"
happems?
These verses just get ignored
and like I said it's pretty easy to see why.
It's pretty clear
that the afterward spoken of
is after Christ ascension.
As we had prophetesses
as far back as Acts
Acts 21:8-9
8 And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was one of the seven; and abode with him.
9 And the same man had four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy.
And if you get all into the semantics about
the differences between prophetesses and preachers?
"well thats not a preacher, or a pastor
thats a different title a different job function" etc
then you are just splitting hairs
that just don't need to be split.
The Spiritual gift of prophesy
is multifaceted, and its purpose
is to build up the church.
It is to be able:
To teach, to instruct, to enlighten, to inform,
to explain complex things simply
and to be able to predict.
Trying to say that the prophetesses in Acts weren't preachers
is about as stretchy as stretchy gets and it just flat out just ignores
Peters call of the fulfillment of Joel 2 on the day of Pentecost.
In short?
My mind just can not do the mental gymnastics needed
to hold a "male only" preachers position
since that day.
(Pentecost)
From my Mendenhall reference Bible:
Acts 21:9
(At the bottom)
The R references Joel 2:28
The T translates as "Preached"
(Notes on the right.)
Also?
A strict legalistic approach to
1 Corinthians 14:34-35
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
would seem to necessitate
women never being able to speak
in the sanctuary
under any circumstances,
this is also never brought up.
AND
1 Corinthians 11:5
5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.
Would seem to indicate
that women were indeed already
Prophesizing during Paul's time.
So whats the problem now?
Now ask yourself:
Is there a current
shortage of preachers?
(Yes there is and it is
across denominations)
What entity do you think
benefits from that?
Now the big one
EVERYBODY
just seems to forget:
Did Christ break ANY
of the religious rules of the day?
And?
Did he have good cause
to do so?
If you know your book
you know he broke plenty.
As far as me and honey are concerned?
THIS IS AND HAS BEEN
A SETTLED MATTER
FOR A WHILE NOW.
If you don't want female preachers?
Then don't belong to a church
that allows it.
Pretty simple.
But my main point
to the people who hold a
"Only men can be preachers"
position is this:
When does this:
"and your daughters
shall prophesy"
take place exactly?
I got all day.

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