but just like
energy
can not be created or destroyed
but can only be transformed
the same is true for
information
as well.
There is a question for you
here at the end:
Revisiting:
Friday, April 19, 2024
but worth it at the end. (Four Parts)
Can Information Escape a Black Hole?
Quanta Magazine April 11, 2024
On the post it is
actually linked under the heading:
"Lets see what another physicist says."
Black holes are inescapable traps for most of what falls into them — but there can be exceptions. The theoretical physicist Leonard Susskind speaks with co-host Janna Levin about the black hole information paradox and how it has propelled modern physics.
(This is a guy who also believes in the holographic principal:
"The three-dimensional world of ordinary experience—the universe filled with galaxies, stars, planets, houses, boulders, and people—is a hologram, an image of reality coded on a distant two-dimensional surface."
"Nothing escapes a black hole … or does it? In the 1970s, the physicist Stephen Hawking described a subtle process by which black holes can “evaporate,” with some particles evading gravitational oblivion. That phenomenon, now dubbed Hawking radiation, seems at odds with general relativity, and it raises an even weirder question: If particles can escape, do they preserve any information about the matter that was obliterated?
"Hawking realized that through a remarkable and subtle quantum process, black holes could evaporate, eventually exploding entirely in a burst of radiation.
(Light, Energy, Data, Information)
Even in this explosion, nothing can escape. The black hole seemed to take everything it had consumed with it into oblivion, including all quantum information. But where did it all go?"
"Few understood the significance of Hawking’s results initially, but one scientist immediately recognized the crisis that would become known as the information loss paradox. He is here with us today, the famed physicist Leonard Susskind — Lenny to anyone who knows him. In today’s episode, Lenny leads us through the Black Hole War as we ask: Is there a quantum escape hatch from black holes? And will we ever know for sure?"
"The problem with it is, it violates a principle of physics. The principle of physics is “nothing ever gets completely lost.” You say, well, that’s crazy. If I take a piece of charcoal and I burn up the charcoal, having maybe written a message on the charcoal, you’ve lost the message. But that’s not true. Whatever you wrote on that piece of charcoal is encoded in the smoke and the products of combustion."
"Stuff comes out of the black hole. Hawking radiation it’s called. But that Hawking radiation cannot carry any information because that information was from behind the horizon, and nothing can get out."
LEVIN: So at this time, Hawking came down squarely in favor of pure general relativity and the absence of quantum mechanics, claiming absolutely nothing can get out? So the information that fell in, even if the black hole evaporates, it’s like you’re yanking a curtain up, but the stuff is gone, and there’s nothing you can do about it. And he fell down on the side of “information was lost.” But you said, “Wait, there’s no way.” Why was it so important to you to say information cannot be lost? What’s so bad about that?"
"SUSSKIND: Well, the conservation of information is at the root of some of the most far-reaching principles of physics, in particular the principles of thermodynamics. The second law of thermodynamics, the first law of thermodynamics, the conservation of energy, the principles of statistical mechanics, the properties of radiation — all of that is 100% dependent on a set of principles that include the zeroth principle of physics, that information is conserved. It’s called unitarity in quantum mechanics. And what it says is that, if there are little differences in what you begin with, those little differences will remain afterwards. Hawking was saying, what comes out of the black hole will be absolutely independent of what fell in."
If you follow that line of reasoning and ask what it implies, it implies chaos. Nothing makes sense anymore. I just felt that couldn’t be right."
SUSSKIND: It didn’t say anything more or less than, the information comes out encoded extremely subtly in the Hawking radiation, much too hard to ever reconstruct. In classical physics, it was impossible."
Mathew 19:26
(With man this is impossible,
but with God all things are possible.)
"It became a question of what is called complexity. Complexity is a genuine concept in physics and in mathematics, and it’s just a measure of how hard it is to carry out a task. If you ask how hard it is to carry out the task of reconstructing what comes out of the black hole, you’ll find out that it is exponentially complex."
(Isaiah 55:8-9
“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
“As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.")
"The number of little operations that you would have to do in order to reconstruct what fell into the black hole was so extraordinarily high that, for all practical purposes, Stephen was right, the information was lost.
But in quantum mechanics,
it just becomes very, very complex to do it.
So, the principle of complementarity was really just saying to Stephen, “You’re wrong.”
"Entropy is hidden
information, encoded
in microscopic details that you don’t have access to."
(Information is always the result of an intellect.
Nowhere do we see it not being.
I wonder who did the encoding?)
"The idea of the holographic principle was more general.
Every region of space,
not just a horizon of a black hole, is encoded."
(Things don't just encode themselves.
It takes an intellect to design them to be able to.)
SUSSKIND: Yeah, that’s true. But that’s not terribly surprising. From the outside perspective, the black hole is very hot. It’s doing what this piece of charcoal would do. It’s very hot. It’s evaporating. And there’s no chance that we could reconstruct the smoke, or the products of combustion, that we could reconstruct what the little bit of writing was on the piece of charcoal. Information gets thermalized. It gets scrambled. So badly scrambled that to reconstruct it is complex beyond imagination
but in principle possible."
(Isaiah 55:8-9
“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,”
declares the Lord.
“As the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.")
"LEVIN: Welcome back to “The Joy of Why.”
"So in principle,
if somebody does fall into the black hole,
becomes completely vaporized,
you could reconstruct them outside the black hole.
SUSSKIND: From the Hawking radiation.
LEVIN: From the Hawking radiation.
SUSSKIND: Right. But you could ask, how long would it take? How many quantum operations would it take? And the answer is exponentially large in the entropy of the black hole. Now the entropy of an ordinary black hole is very large in itself, I don’t know, 1070. So, we’re talking about times to reconstruct it, which are 10 to the 1070 years. That’s what quantum mechanics would say. The right statement, that Hawking should have made, is
not that it’s impossible,
but that it’s extraordinarily complex
once you fall through the horizon.'
SO?
Every single cell that has ever existed
in your body (trillions)
had or has currently
specific information contained in it
in the form of a genetic code
that makes you you.
According to the laws of physics?
That information can not be destroyed
but only transformed.
So what is your specific information
(Genetic Code)
going to be transformed into?
And where is it going to reside eternally?
The answer to what happens to it
is determined by
the only eternal decision
you will ever have to make.
I pray you choose wisely.
I really do.
p.s.
Galaxies not spreading apart
even though the space they occupy is expanding
just flat out gives it away
that the Holographic principal is correct.
That and?
If the amount of solid material in an atom
is equal to the ratio
of one second in 30 million years?
Wednesday, May 13, 2026
"...one second divided by 30 million years
so how solid is this podium..."
Then why wouldn't everything be:
"a hologram,
an image of reality
coded
on a distant two-dimensional surface"
Coding requires an intelligence to do it.
It doesn't just happen on its own.
Some people might wanna stop
and seriously reconsider
some long held positions.
I would highly encourage it.
Times getting short.
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