And

 somebody please shut this guy up about Theology.

Dude?

Please, you are no where near the expert on the subject 

you like to think you are.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson

(Review time and then there's more 

added at the end of the review :-)

"So what happened was, when science discovers things, and you want to stay religious, or you want to continue to believe that the Bible is unerring, what you would do is you would say, "Well, let me go back to the Bible and reinterpret it." Then you'd say things like, "Oh, well they didn't really mean that literally. They meant that figuratively."

So, this whole sort of reinterpretation of the, how figurative the poetic passages of the Bible are came after science showed that this is not how things unfolded."

(The creation story in Genesis (and other things as demonstrated above) matches up with the science we know and other scientist have agreed, just not the ones who like seeing their faces on TV/social media etc. The creation story was never meant to be taken literally, it is a Hebrew parable set to poetry.

THAT IS 

YOUR WRONGFULL REINTERPRETATION

Proving as I stated I already knew,

He doesn't know more about my faith, 

than I do,

quite obviously.

Nachmanides

1194–1270

"...was a leading medieval Jewish scholar, Catalan rabbi, philosopher, physician, kabbalist, and biblical commentator. He was raised, studied, and lived for most of his life in Girona, Catalonia. He is also considered to be an important figure in the re-establishment of the Jewish community in Jerusalem following its destruction by the Crusaders in 1099."

"His commentary on the creation of the world 

describes the heavens and the earth 

being created out of a noncorporeal substance:

"Now listen to the correct and clear explanation of the verse in its simplicity. The Holy One, blessed be He, created all things from absolute non-existence. Now we have no expression in the sacred language for bringing forth something from nothing other than the word bara (created). Everything that exists under the sun or above was not made from non-existence at the outset. Instead He brought forth from total and absolute nothing a very thin substance devoid of corporeality but having a power of potency, fit to assume form and to proceed from potentiality into reality. This was the primary matter created by G-d; it is called by the Greeks hyly (matter). After the hyly He did not create anything, but He formed and made --things with it, and from this hyly He brought everything into existence and clothed the forms and put them into a finished condition."

Explanation/translation?

God created the stuff,

that he ended up 

making the stuff with.

And its exactly how it happened!"

Now?

Now lets add a whole bunch more to that.

What Does the Bible Say about the Big Bang?

"Hindsight or Foresight?

In one university forum debate I had with the executive director of the Skeptics Society, Michael Shermer, he told the audience that my claims of the Bible predicting some of the big bang features of the universe were examples of hindsight biblical interpretation. He declared that I was falsely reading into biblical passages features of the universe that I knew were true based solely on astronomical observations made in the twentieth and twenty-first centuries."

(This is one of their "go-to's" it's not just NDT.)

"Shermer contended that I was imposing literal interpretations upon Bible passages that are clearly intended to be figurative. As proof that I was falsely reading details about the universe into biblical texts, he asserted that no one previous to the twentieth century had ever interpreted these biblical texts in the manner I was claiming. He emphatically declared that the Bible did not predict any of the big bang features of the universe."

 "To be clear, neither John Rea nor I have ever claimed that the Bible teaches all the fundamental features of the big bang creation model. We are saying that it teaches three or four of the several dozen big bang features of the universe that astronomers have identified."

(And they left out cosmic inflation!)

"Is It Just Hindsight Interpretation?

The nontheists, besides Shermer, who have engaged me about the Bible and the big bang avow that they do not need to read my articles on the Bible and the big bang or the biblical passages I cite to know that my claims are wrong." 

(Arrogance much?)

"They say, like Shermer, that no theologian previous to the twentieth century ever commented on the Bible making such claims. This lack, they insist, is sufficient evidence that it is just my twenty-first–century astrophysical bias that makes me think the Bible teaches big bang features of the universe."

"Pre-Twentieth-Century Theologians on Ex Nihilo Creation

"Michael Shermer and the nontheists I have engaged dispute that any theologians previous to the twentieth century had ever discerned that the Bible teaches an ex nihilo (from nothing) beginning for the universe or that the Bible teaches the universe has expanded and is expanding. However, many pre-twentieth-century Jewish and Christian theologians wrote about the Bible’s teachings concerning the characteristics of the universe. For the sake of brevity, I will highlight only some of the comments by a few of the more prominent ones."

"Irenaeus, Bishop of Lyons (120–202), stated, “God, according to His pleasure, in the exercise of His own will and power, formed all things (so that those things which now are should have an existence) out of what did not previously exist.”

"Augustine of Hippo (354–430) wrote in his Confessions, “You [God] were, and besides you nothing was. From nothing, then, you created heaven and earth.” Later in Confessions he added, “You created them [the heavens and the earth, that is, the material universe] from nothing, not from your own substance or from some matter not created by yourself or already in existence. . . . You created the matter from absolutely nothing and the form of the world from this formless matter.”

"The most famous of the medieval Jewish theologians, Moses Maimonides (1135–1204), also known as the Rambam, wrote extensively about Old Testament declarations concerning the beginning of the universe. In his 13 Principles of Faith, Maimonides stated, “We believe that this Oneness is necessarily primary. All that exists other than Him is not primary in relationship to Him. There are many references in the Scriptures. This is the fourth Principle, as affirmed by the verse (Deuteronomy 33:27): ‘God who preceded all existence is a refuge.’” Here, Maimonides explicitly states that the universe cannot be eternal; it must have a beginning."

(Side note:

I get Maimonides  and  Nachmanides mixed up sometimes lol.

Sorry about that.)

"In The Guide of the Perplexed, Maimonides elucidated what the Torah (the first five books of the Bible) stated about God, the universe, space, and time. He wrote that the entire universe “was brought into existence by God after having been purely and absolutely nonexistent.”25 Maimonides declared that Moses in the Torah asserted “that there is nothing eternal in any way at all existing simultaneously with God.”26 Therefore, according to Maimonides, the Mosaic position puts forth a view of creation that is both ex nihilo and de novo (from [the] new)."

"Maimonides explains that creation de novo does not mean God exists in time and space and picks a particular moment to begin his creations."

(Did you hear that all you Stephen Hawking fan boys?

"We have finally found something that doesn't have a cause, because there was no time for a cause to exist in," Hawking wrote. "For me this means that there is no possibility of a creator, because there is no time for a creator to have existed in."

Opps.)

"He asserts that time itself is one of these creations. It is not eternal; only God is eternal. Only God is responsible for creating the universe.

("A scientifically minded theist sees 

time space energy and matter 

as created entities I read somewhere.

I think in "The return of the God Hypothesis.")

"Maimonides also clarifies his definition of “nothing” and the impotence of nothing: “if nothing is pure and absolute, it cannot be the material cause of anything; it is, after all, nothing.”

(And this is what Atheist think life, rational thought, and reasoning

came from? Yall got far more faith than me to believe something like that, TRUTH!)

"Pre-Twentieth-Century Theologians on Cosmic Expansion

"Shermer and the nontheists I have engaged especially dispute that any theologian previous to the twentieth century had ever discerned that the Bible teaches that the universe has expanded and is expanding. There is at least one. Medieval Jewish theologian Moses Nachmanides (1194–1270), 

(My man!)

also known as Rabbi Moses ben Nahman Girondi, wrote in his Commentary on Genesis about the expansion of the universe:

“At the briefest instant following creation all the matter of the universe was concentrated in a very small place, no larger than a grain of mustard. The matter at this time was so thin, so intangible, that it did not have real substance. It did have, however, a potential to gain substance and form and to become tangible matter. From the initial concentration of this intangible substance in its minute location, the substance expanded, expanding the universe as it did so. As the expansion progressed, a change in the substance occurred. This initially thin noncorporeal substance took on the tangible aspects of matter as we know it. From this initial act of creation, from this ethereally thin pseudosubstance, everything that has existed, or will ever exist, was, is, and will be formed.”

"However, one reason why we should not expect a lot of written resources on cosmic expansion from scholars previous to the twentieth century is that cosmic expansion was not an issue for skeptics of Christianity whereas a cosmic beginning definitely was."

(Such a great point.)

"Nontheists throughout all centuries recognized that a cosmic beginning implies a cosmic Beginner and that an ex nihilo cosmic beginning implies that the Beginner must be an Entity possessing the capacity to operate freely and create independent of matter, energy, space, and time."

(And that's why non-theist scientist these days are currently changing course and saying anything but a creator, an eternal inflationary field, a multiverse, spacetime exhisted before the big bang etc. Any and all kinds of dumb shit they know they cant even test let alone ever prove.)

 "Therefore, while Christian and Jewish apologists felt compelled to defend the doctrine of a cosmic beginning and creation ex nihilo in particular, no such compulsion drove them to address cosmic expansion."

Translation:

"Hey you know that thing we really didn't know about until just recently?"

(Universe expansion)

"Yeah"

"Well your people weren't writing about it 1000's of years ago."

Only one problem.

Some of them were!

"A conclusion that can be drawn from the works of pre-twentieth-century Jewish and Christian apologists is similar to the “discussion” between Vern Poythress and John Rea. There is no reasonable doubt that the Bible taught at least three fundamental features of big bang creation models. A case can be made that the Bible also taught a fourth feature of the universe—expansion from the cosmic creation event."

From earlier in the article:

"...the Bible repeatedly and specifically 

declares three distinct features of the universe:

The universe had a single beginning of everything humans could possibly detect: matter, energy, space, and time (Genesis 1:1; 2:3–4; Psalm 148:5; Isaiah 40:26; 42:5; 45:18; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16–17; 2 Timothy 1:9; Titus 1:2; Hebrews 11:3).

The laws governing the universe are constant, unchanging throughout cosmic history (Genesis 1–3; Jeremiah 33:19–26; Romans 8:22).

One of these unchanging laws is a pervasive law of decay, termed by physicists as the second law of thermodynamics or the law of increasing entropy (Ecclesiastes 1–3; 9–12; John 16:33; Romans 8:20–22; Revelation 21:4–5).

(And he left out inflation/star formation as light on two separate instances so I would say five.)

"Biblical Cosmology Implications

The Bible’s unique position among texts from the ancient world in its specific and unambiguous details about the origin and history of the universe has profound implications. Twentieth and twenty-first-century discoveries about the universe are bringing more attention to biblical texts describing the origin and characteristics of the universe. These discoveries establish that the universe has a beginning, which implies the existence of a cosmic Beginner. They also imply that the universe has been designed, extraordinarily fine-tuned, for the existence of life." 

"Ultimately, Hawking felt that 

the mainstream narrative failed to explain:

“How the Universe could have created conditions so perfectly hospitable to life.” 

"These discoveries demonstrate that the Bible possesses unique predictive power. Georges Lemaître, Edwin Hubble, Albert Einstein, and George Gamow were not the first humans to talk and write about the big bang creation model. That credit goes back to biblical authors Job, Moses, David, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Zechariah, Paul, and the author of Hebrews. This success in uniquely predicting specific features of the universe millennia ahead of scientific discoveries of such cosmic features provides strong evidence that the source of the Bible’s message is from the Being who created and designed the universe. 

(And you simply can not work around the truth t

that is right in front of you 

via the Multiverse or RNA world hypothesis, 

no matter how hard you try.

If certain "scientist" didn't see that truth

and didn't like it?

Then they wouldn't be coming up with this stupid crap to start with.)

"Such evidence implies that all humans would be wise to read, understand, and submit to the entire content of the Bible."

If these types cant even admit they are wrong about:

Hindsight Interpretation of the bible?

Which as shown above

they so obviously are?

Then the question becomes,

WHAT WILL THEY EVER ADMIT 

THEY WERE WRONG ABOUT?

I think you already know the answer.

I love you baby.