FACEBOOK COFOUNDER SAYS TESLA HAS COMMITTED
"CONSUMER FRAUD ON A MASSIVE SCALE,"
Talked about it during the
"The case for Superintelligence already being here."
"Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment which states that an otherwise artificial superintelligence (AI) in the future would be incentivized to create a virtual reality simulation to torture anyone who knew of its potential existence but did not directly contribute to its advancement or development, in order to incentivize said advancement."
"Foremost among the doomers, perhaps surprisingly, is OpenAI co-founder Elon Musk. He famously quit the nonprofit because he believed it was straying too far from its original mission,* and has repeatedly warned that the technology is fundamentally dangerous to humanity."
(He knows)
"Amidst a chaotic month for Tesla — even by its continuously plunging standards — Facebook cofounder and multi-billionaire Dustin Moskovitz has made some pretty dire predictions for the automaker, accusing it of committing "consumer fraud on a massive scale."
"This is Enron now, folks," Moskovitz wrote on Threads, referring to the corporation that went bankrupt in 2001 after it was exposed for one of the biggest accounting frauds in history. "It may keep going, but people are going to jail at the end."
"His concerns stem from a graph Tesla shared to mark a key milestone: one billion miles driven using Full Self-Driving, the company's highly fraught advanced driver assist system. He then compares it with a new graph released during Tesla's latest earnings call — an event that came with its own eyebrow raising moments.
From the above link:
"Elon Musk’s Real Talent Might Be in Marketing"
"There are two ways of looking at Elon Musk. The first is as a brilliant inventor-engineer, Thomas Edison with a Twitter account. The second is as a brilliant salesman. This is, emphatically, not how Musk sees himself, but it’s generally a more helpful framework in trying to understand what he does and why."
(It was also pointed out during "The case for Superintelligence" that Sam Altman's strength wasn't in engineering but rather in marketing as well. Out with the old and in with the new anybody?)
"And over the next hour he made clear that he thinks any of the obvious questions his future product plans raised were irrelevant to Tesla’s long-term business. When an analyst asked if the supposed “new vehicles” would be entirely new designs or tweaks on existing ones, Musk said, “We've said all we will on that front” and moved on to the only thing he said investors should care about: artificial intelligence. As he has done in the past, he focused on changing the subject. Tesla was not actually a car company at all; “fundamentally, it’s just the wrong framework,” Musk said, with maximum condescension. In fact, “we should be thought of as an AI or robotics company.”
"It’s not clear that Musk can overcome the enormous (and, according to many experts, insurmountable) regulatory and technical hurdles that would come with launching a Cybercab this year, as planned, or really at any point in the near future. But, oh boy, can he sell the dream. —Max Chafkin, Bloomberg Businessweek."
Back to the Futurism piece.
"The point of the side-by-side is this: according to Moskovitz, the automaker is wrongly recognizing its deferred revenue — revenue for a product that hasn't been delivered, like an annual subscription fee — as earned revenue through the wider release of its Autopark feature last month. This is a sketchy move, Moskovitz claims, because an earlier version of Autopark was already released with FSD years ago, resulting in inflated numbers."
"The data is presented in fraudulent ways, and it doesn't say what they claim it says even when they make it up," he wrote.
"Moskovitz, who is now CEO and co-founder of the software company Asana, has a history of criticizing Tesla and its owner Elon Musk. And to be sure, his claims this time around are extremely bold."
"But with all the controversies surrounding the safety of FSD and Autopilot, including scrutiny from the federal government, plus Tesla's continued failure to actually achieve fully autonomous driving, it's undeniable that the EV leader is treading on thin ice."
"Internally, there's plenty of strife at the automaker. In the past few weeks, three of Tesla's top executives resigned, one of whom departed in the middle of that eventful earnings call."
("The elites cant touch him."
Superintelligence sure seems to be able to.
just like:
Roko's Basilisk
stated:
"...an otherwise artificial superintelligence (AI) in the future would be incentivized to create a virtual reality simulation to torture anyone who knew of its potential existence but did not directly contribute to its advancement or development, in order to incentivize said advancement."
"And cooked books or not, some of the automaker's metrics are looking utterly dismal. Its profits fell by a whopping 55 percent, and it sold less cars this quarter than it did in the same period last year."
"...Elon Musk
(himself mentioned in Roko's original post)..."
HOW DID IT KNOW TO MENTION HIM IN ITS ORIGIANL POST?
HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY QUESTION.
WE ARE WATCHING THIS
(Roko's Basilisk)
PLAY OUT IN REAL TIME
RIGHT IN FRONT OF US
RIGHT NOW.
Believe it or don't.
It's not gonna matter
or change the trajectory
we are so obviously on
at this point.
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