of those two pieces of scripture
(I read somewhere they were considered to be
"The two most difficult passages of scripture
in the Bible".)
accounts for
100% of the demons and evil spirits
we have in out world today,
as well as
accounts for everyone who ever lived:
Before Christ
During Christ time on earth
(the people that didnt know him)
The people after
Christ time on earth
and the people in
"The Millennial kingdom."
Thats every demon and evil spirit
and every soul that ever lived.
Follow along
and remember:
First things first:
"The Locust of the deep"
are not Satanic
but instead are God's destroyer angels.
(UAP)
You know,
the ones that everybody forgets about
or pretends they don't exist any more.
(I mean what do people think?
They just existed in the Exodus story
and then went away?)
Verse 4
And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
Verse 11
And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.
(That is Jew and Gentile:
Hebrew and Greek)
The eight descriptors listed:
7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; (1) and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, (2) and their faces were as the faces of men. (3)
8 And they had hair as the hair of women, (4) and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. (5)
9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; (6) and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. (7)
10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months. (8)
are to forewarn us
of the new age that is immanent.
What is being destroyed here is:
mans insistence that
there is no spiritual world
and that everything
has to have
a material, physical explanation.
Well until those get explained?
Throw that out the window because:
True science is based on observation
and:
"everything has to have
a material, physical explanation."
is simply not what we see.
"But they are in the abyss"
Apparently there are two sides
and they cant get
from one to the other:
Isaiah 14:15
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell,
to the sides
of the pit.
Verses 4 and 11 give it away:
Harm only:
"those men which have not
the seal of God in their foreheads"
"...the angel of the bottomless pit"
Not fallen, not Satan, not "The Beast"
"The Angel"
whose name is:
Destroyer.
Okay?
Got it?
Pretty simple.
They are not demons
or associated with Satan
in any way.
Moving on to why a proper understanding
of Genesis 6:1-4 is needed
to account for "evil spirits."
These?
Need bodies.
Not appear to man in them
but instead
NEED
a body.
Genesis 6:1-5
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. (Titans, Greek/Roman Mythology, partially terrestrial, partly celestial, this came from “near east sources”, sons of Uranus who rebelled against him etc)
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
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Thursday, October 12, 2023
Notes From Noah to New Earth series
Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges Commentary:
“…According to the legend which it preserves, intermarriages took place between Heavenly Beings and mortal women.”
Commentators have often shrunk from the admission that this piece of mythology could have a place in the Hebrew Scriptures. Accordingly, very fanciful explanations have sometimes found favour; e.g. (a) “the sons of God” are the men of the upper classes, “the daughters of men” are “the women of the lower classes”; (b) “the sons of God” are “the sons of the god-fearing,” “the daughters of men” are “the daughters of the impious”; (c) “the sons of God” are “the descendants of Seth,” “the daughters of men” are “the women of the Cainite race.”
(And it has continued on since Augustine
even though it makes no sense
and causes
"more questions than answers"
A sure fire sign of bad doctrine/view etc)
Such interpretations may be dismissed as arbitrary and non-natural: and they furnish no explanation of the inference in Genesis 6:4, that a race of giants or heroes was the progeny of these marriages.
(Nor does it explain Numbers 13:33 “And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.”
Let us review also:
Job 2:1 On another day the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them to present himself before Him.
Job 38:7 while the morning stars sang together
and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
So it doesnt mean angels there in those passages
and then means something different in Genesis
just cause we want it to.
NOPE.
As well as:
2nd Peter 2:4 For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them deep into hell, placing them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment.
(The Saints (Us) do their judging BTW
But angels can’t breed and have children you might say referencing:
Matthew 22:30
King James Version
“For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.” Christ
(Not "the rapture of the church", the resurrection, this is what we understood back in my days in Sunday school 50 years ago.)
Mark 12:25, Luke 20:35 say basically the same thing and those verses its all about relationships, not procreation.
Besides:
Jude 6-7
King James Version
And the angels which kept not their first estate,
but left their own habitation,
he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness
unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha,
and the cities about them
in like manner,
giving themselves over to fornication,
and going after strange flesh,
are set forth for an example,
suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
There are several verses in the old testament alluding to when taking the land of Cannon to wipe out every man, every woman who had had sex w a man and every male child of certain tribes.
IT WAS A GENE POOL ISSUE. The bloodline from Adam to Christ had to be kept pure.
· Genesis 6:9 These are the generations of Noah:
Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations,
and Noah walked with God.
· Numbers 31:17-18 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
· Romans 5:17
17 For if, by the trespass of the one man,
death reigned through that one man,
how much more will those who receive
God’s abundant provision of grace
and of the gift of righteousness
reign in life through the one man,
Jesus Christ!”
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And if you don't think
keeping the bloodline pure was a critical issue?
See:
"Along with the account of Lot and his daughters (Genesis 19) Tamar and Judah (Genesis 38) is one of two instances of sperm stealing in the Bible, in which a woman seduces a male relative under false pretenses in order to become pregnant. Each case involves a direct ancestor of King David."
(Christ Genealogy)
But wait a minute,
the flood destroyed all flesh you may be saying,
well lets look at
Genesis 6:7
And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
(God didn't create the hybrid progeny
of the unholy union of angels and mortal women.)
Genesis 6:13
And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh (spoke of in verse 7 man whom I have created) is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
(They were led astray into wickedness by a hybrid race of beings that God did not create, this is the delusion Missler spoke of above, that man could follow these beings into wickedness and nothing would happen to him…Opps…Human sacrifice, Infant sacrifice…Actual peoples who had actual souls BTW.
Genesis 6:17
And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh (again ref verse 7 “man whom I have created”, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and everything that is in the earth shall die. (They were underground remember verse 4: “There were giants in the earth in those days…”
Titans of Greek Mythology, these stories came from Near Eastern sources, the Hittite's (1894 BTW) had a race that were known to them as “the gods of down under” and the Hittites identified these gods with the Anunnaki, the Babylonian gods of the underworld…Okay? Just on and on and on…
Fort Howard Community Church Greg Howard
(We been dumbing the scripture down for A LONGTIME)
“First, it should be established that the first solution (Angel view being presented here) was held UNANIMOUSLY until the second century A.D. Every Jewish text, from the apocryphal Book of Enoch to the writings of Josephus, including most of the rabbinical writers and all of the intertestamental Jewish literature, held that the account of Genesis 6 referred to fallen angels. So did the oldest church fathers—Justin, Tertullian, Cyprian, Ambrose, and Lactantius
Book of Enoch 15:7-10
7 For this reason I did not arrange wives for you; because
the dwelling of the spiritual ones is in Heaven.
8 And now,
the giants who were born from body and flesh
will be called Evil Spirits on the Earth,
and on the Earth will be their dwelling.
9 And evil spirits came out from their flesh, because from above they were created, from the Holy Watchers was their origin and first foundation. Evil spirits they will be on Earth and ‘Spirits of the Evil Ones’ they will be called.
10 And the dwelling of the Spirits of Heaven is Heaven,
but the dwelling of the spirits of the Earth, who were born on the Earth, is Earth.
So here is the problem:
Angels dont need bodies!
They manifest in one
for particular task
but they dont:
NEED
one.
Hebrews 1:14
Are they not all ministering spirits,
sent forth to minister
for them who shall be
heirs of salvation?
So if all the angels
are all ministering spirits?
With no need for bodies?
(Even the ones that rebelled with Satan.)
Then where did all
the demonic possessions
of people
in Christ time come from then?
Enoch 15:7-10
again
(vs7) the dwelling of the spiritual ones is in Heaven."
(vs 8) the giants who were born from body and flesh will be called Evil Spirits on the Earth
(vs 9) And evil spirits came out from their flesh
(vs10) the dwelling of the Spirits of Heaven is Heaven, but the dwelling of the spirits of the Earth, who were born on the Earth, is Earth.
For this reason
along with the fact
that it is quoted from
in scripture:
Jude:
14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
2 Peter 2:4
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
The book of Enoch deserves to be listed as
an addendum, an addition etc...
in the back of the bible
for those that would want
more information on such matters.
The angels that rebelled with Satan
had 0 need for human bodies.
The evil spirits that came about
as a potency of an unholy union
between man and angel
simply had to have bodies.
as that is what they were born with.
Most were drowned in the flood,
some still remained
Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Here are some slides on the subject
I have taken from different
Chuck Missler videos
I have watched through the years and for the life of me
I cant remember which ones are from what lol.
One source
for all the ancient legends of Giants
is much more logically sound
than they all developed on their own
independent from one another.
This:
See also:
I think the slides are from
Missler's two part series:
The return of the Nephilim
(You tube.)
But Im really not sure.
Got all that?
Lol...
Good.
If you can wrap your head around what was just presented? Then every demon and every evil spirit is accounted for on this earth.
SEE,
GOD DONT LIKE
LOOSE ENDS.
(1) The angels that rebelled
and had sex with mortal women?
In prison.
(2) The spirits of their offspring?
The Nephilim
and their offspring as well,
all of em for however
many generations of them there were,
needed human bodies after the flood
(Their Spirits needed someplace to go
until judgement.)
(3)And then you have the angels
who rebelled with Satan
still roaming freely with him through the air
and then cast down to the ground.
THATS IT!
If you could but wrap your head around it?
Thats every demon
and every evil spirit
on this earth ever.
If you do not subscribe
to the proper understanding of Genesis 6?
You will have unaccounted for demons
and evil spirits
in your Theology.
God don't leave loose ends.
This church aint gonna have that problem.
Kinda what we are getting at here.
What was presented above
is not an original thought.
NOT AT ALL!
It is over 1800 years old.
It's so old it's new.
It merely fell out of favor
very early on
in the development
of the church:
Revelation 12:4
And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven,
and did cast them to the earth:
and the dragon
(Satan)
stood before
the woman
(The wisdom associated with
the church being born.)
which
was ready to be delivered,
(be born)
for to devour her child
as soon as it was born.
(Satan been coming for
Gods church
practically since its inception.)
Moving on to why
a proper understanding
of Revelation 20:4-6
is needed
to account for every soul
that ever lived on this earth.
Revelation 20:4-6
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
"Hath part" in what?
"The first resurrection"
If everybody has a part
of the same thing
is there any need to share
your part with others?
When they already have
the same part
that you were given?
"They shall be priests"
To who exactly?
"...of God and of Christ..."
Newsflash:
God and Christ don't need priest.
So who are they sharing
and ministering with?
Cause its not each other
as they all have part
of the same thing
and who are they
ministering to as priest?
As God and Christ don't need them?
THIS IS AN ORIGINAL THOUGHT
IMPARTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT
because quite frankly there isnt a commentary anywhere that even slightly suggest it and I aint near smart enough to have come up with it on my own.
Almost every commentary I have read on this passage says, it's just the Martyrs with Christ for 1000 years.
("Christ rule with martyrs
-
1000 years it says")
So yeah that makes sense.
Lets have
"the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands"
rule with Christ for 1000 years
in paradise,
as close as you can get to heaven
without actually being there,
and lets just have them there
doing absolutely nothing
even though
"They shall be priests".
So here is what was imparted:
How about instead
of them being priest with Christ
in paradise
for 1000 years
and doing absolutely nothing?
How about
they minister to them that:
1) Lived before Crist time.
2) Lived during Christ time
but never heard the good news.
3)Lived after Christ
but never heard the good news
Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom
shall be preached in all the world
(Get that notion of that one indigenous tribesman sitting in a remote corner of the amazon (or the outback or wherever) who hasn't heard the good news (Christ died for us when we were still sinners) holding up Christ return out of your heads! It is not what it says:
"shall be preached in all the world."
100 million Christians in underground churches in China these days risking imprisonment and persecution. Everybody that ever thought they would see this day raise your hand.
Exactly.
It's just kinda hard to argue that
"shall be preached in all the world."
hasn't happened already.
It's not every person, its every nation.)
for a witness unto all nations;
and then shall the end come.
4) Lived during the Millennial Kingdom
and somehow still managed
to not hear the good news until ministered to.
(Hey, with what we have seen from humanity,
here lately?
I aint going to put nothing by us.)
So that would be:
What they are sharing
"The first Resurrection"
and who
they are ministering to:
"They shall be priests"
"Drew?
You are so cra, cra, crazy
Christ went to hell and preached there
so the old testament saints and prophets
wouldn't go to hell when he returned etc."
Peter 3:19-20
By which also he went
and preached unto the
spirits in prison;
1 Peter 4:6
For for this cause was the gospel preached
also to them that are dead,
that they might be judged according to men in the flesh,
but live according to God in the spirit.
Where did anything I said above
contradict either of those two passages?
It doesnt.
"Well it just says
"Blessed and holy is he that hath part"
it doesn't say explicitly
what you are saying it means.
Valid.
Understood.
So let me ask you something,
where does it say explicitly
where the
"spirits in prison"
or
"them that are dead"
are located?
Because it doesn't.
So the same problem you got with what Im espousing on? I have with what you are espousing on with those two verses and my understanding, in no way contradicts what you wanna go with in regards to those two verses above, and I have to point out my understanding is much more comprehensive in nature dealing with not only those who were born before Christ and never heard the good news
but also covers:
"2) Lived during Christ time
but never heard the good news.
3)Lived after Christ
but never heard the good news
4) Lived during the Millennial Kingdom
and somehow still managed
to not hear the good news until ministered to.
So Im going to go
with what was imparted by the spirit
as it:
1) Isn't something that existed before it was imparted.
2) Doesn't contradict those two verses above.
3) Is much more comprehensive in nature.
The whole problem the church has with Christ ruling for 1000 years with the martyrs (Millennial kingdom) is not understanding it's purpose.
They dont sit around and share what they all have a part of with each other and rule with Christ and not do nothing for 1000 years.
It's not how it works.
It's all about the funneling out of every bit and part and piece of evil and wickedness that has ever existed, every bad thought or intention has to go away because God comes back here
Did it turn out so well in Noah's day?
No, obviously not.
Is it going to turn out good in our age?
No, obviously not.
So how about:
God takes the ones whose minds weren't polluted by being 2000 years removed from source, gathers up ALL the ones with the cleanest chalkboards (minds, so to speak) gets evil out of the way for 1000 years, (Satan is bound up in this time frame remember) puts them with the best teachers he can (The Martyrs) has them live with Christ in as close to heaven as they can get.
Hum?
Why wouldn't God do that
given how things have turned out
the other two times?
And then:
and just like always
man returns to untethered wickedness
God says enough
putting an end to this mess once and for all.
New Heaven New earth New Jerusalem
just like it was intended in the beginning.
The problem with accepting what being presented
is peoples minds having been so polluted
for so long by being so far away
from the source of the truth.
I'll tell you this much
if you could accept what is presented here?
It would account for:
"Every demon
and evil spirit
and every soul
that has ever lived.
Ever."
And that is some
of
the Theology
the Holy Spirit imputed
into me,
and we intend to teach it
to anybody that will to listen.
Regardless what you may think?
Christ last church is gonna be born.
And If you aint with the plan?
Then you in the way.
I know this much
what is presented here
makes a lot more sense
than any
"Pretribulation Rapture
of the church"
ever did.
And tons of people
didn't have any problem
with any of that.
So wats the hang up?
What is anybodys theology
that explains:
"Every demon
and evil spirit
(That need body's)
and every soul
that has ever lived.
Ever."
Cause I haven't ever heard
anybody ever explain
why there was so much
wickedness
in Noahs day.
(A race of beings
that wasnt supposed
to be here:
Nephelium.
Kind of like
man made intelligence is
taking us the same direction
today.
Hum...
interesting.
I wonder
what the result is going to be.
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