Army of the Ozone Skip

1st Corinthians 3:11-15

If there are more logical alternatives?

With more evidence supporting them?

Than what you've been taught?

Then you might wanna seriously consider them.

In what other area of your life

would you not apply that logic?

So without further ado?

To what somebody posted online.

And I thank them for the opportunity
to correct a lot of faulty thinking
along our way.

Seems to be the whole point
of this exercise.

Two problems already.

And were just on the terminology lol.

Problem Number One:

"Rapture:

Event wherein believers are taken up

to be with Christ."

I get it

its a PowerPoint slide

or a meme, or watever

but

that leaves out

a WHOLE lot

that should be covered.

"The rapture"

(Of the church BTW)

isnt just

meeting Christ in the air

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

IT IS AVOIDING

THE ENTIRE TRIBULATION PERIOD

"The Church" isn't mentioned in the middle portion of the book of revelation. (Chapters 4-19.). This is used by many to justify a position of "The rapture of the church" out of the tribulation time frame.

So many issues to shake a stick at.

Chief among them:

Where else do we read the bible

to see what it doesn't say?

And then we say:

"Oh, this is what

blah blah blah

not being said here means?

I read the book to see what's in it.

Not to see,

whats not in it,

and where it's not found

and then apply my own logic

as to why that is so.

Ive been going to church

longer than the individual who put this together is old,

And here is what I want everybody

to try and understand:

We never heard of:

"The Rapture of the Church."

when I was in grade school,

middle school, high school etc.

(70's)

It was always an individuals

"Resurrection"

to merge their soul

back with a now

"incorruptible"

(Quantum Light Being :-)

body.

1 Corinthians 15:52-54

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at

the last trump:

(Notice it didn't say seventh BTW.)

See 1 Thessalonians 4:16 as well:

"and with the trump of God"

All of the trumpet judgements are issued in

by angels blowing their trumpets BTW

See trumpet Judgements:

Revelation 8:6-9:21

Revelation 11:15–19

The seventh one isnt

"The last".

It makes a huge difference between

Pretribulation vs. Postribulation

Put here largely for my own reference

but I digress...already lol...)

for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Last six lines of The Apostles Creed

(established approx. 39AD.)

"I believe in the Holy Spirit,

the holy catholic

(universal)

Church,

the communion of saints,

the forgiveness of sins,

the resurrection

of the body,

and life everlasting.

Amen.

Notice it doesn't say:

"The Rapture of the church."

The word is:

harpazō

and it literally means

to be taken away by force

against ones will.

Purge:

1. rid (someone or something)

of an unwanted quality, condition, or feeling.

2. remove (a group of people considered undesirable) from an organization or place in an abrupt or violent way.

File that above away,

were gonna come back to it

here in a bit.)

Christ comes here.

Period.

He never goes anywhere else.

Period.

God and a new heaven and a new earth

also all come here as well

Revelation 21:2-3

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

SO WHERE ARE YOU GOING?

AGAINST YOUR WILL?

WHY DO YOU WANT TO GO

SOMEWHERE

CHRIST AND GOD ARENT GOING TO BE?

AND WHO IS TAKING YOU?

AND HOW DO YOU GET BACK?

AND WHICH CHURCH?

THERES LIKE 50,000

DENOMINATIONS OR SO.

Doctrines that cause more problems

than they solve

aren't doctrines worth having.

They are easily exposed

as the man made B.S. they truly are.

More later.

See the

sethian view of Genesis 6

if you need to about:

positions causing more issues than they solve.

Problem Number Two

"TRIBULATION

A time of great disasters on earth"

Wrong, wrong wrong,

1,000,000x over again

WRONG!

Question:

Has the earth ever seen:

"great disasters"

upon it before?

Yes, plenty of times.

Ice ages, cataclysms, droughts,

meteor impacts,

five different

major extinction level events.

"A time of great disasters on earth"

Is simply not what Christ said!

Matthew 24:21

For then shall be

great tribulation,

(The second half

of the last of

Daniels 70/7's.

"The Old Testament prophecies in Daniel

provide the framework

and key to understanding...Revelation.)

such as was not

since the beginning of the world

to this time, no,

nor ever shall be.

So it is a one time event.

One seven year period.

Culminating in the

"great Tribulation"

during the second half

of the seven year tribulation period.

The last of Daniels 70/7's.

The culmination of history.

The end of this age.

(Im going to get to Daniels 70/7's

at a later time on a different slide

where it seems more applicable.

Probably in part 2)

The cosmic war

started in Heaven by Lucifer

comes to an end.

And they are not just:

"Great Disasters"

they are supernatural in origin

because they are

THE JUDGEMENTS

of God

upon this wicked world

so that man will know

he is not in charge.

There are also

supercharged Satanic entities

that arrive on the scene:

Ten Kings without a kingdom.

(Revelation 17:12-14)

The Beast from the Abyss.

(Revelation 17:8)

The Beast from Land.

(Revelation 13:11-18)

The Beast from the Sea.

(Revelation 13:1-10)

The woman and

The scarlet Beast

Revelation 17:3

The Kings from the East.

Revelation 16:12

The synagogue of Satan.

(Revelation 2:9, 3:9)

(All of that is here right now BTW)

As well as,

certain specific conditions

have to me met,

(Be mad at Paul

he wrote it not me)

before Christ return

chief among them:

What was holding evil back

has to be removed:

(2 Thessalonians 2:7)

The Falling away.

(2 Thessalonians 2:3)

See also:

Saturday, May 9, 2020

Lets Review (Part three)

The Great Apostasy

(Part one of a series)

Warning, Its long.

The Man of perdition

revealed.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

Important word there:

"revealed"

Amos 3:7

Surely the Lord God will do nothing,

but he revealeth

his secret

unto

his servants

the prophets.

See where it says

God will reveal his secret(s) to everybody?

Yeah me neither.

SO WITH ALL THAT IN MIND

WHY?

are people

"dumbing it down",

"buttercoating"

(Sugar sticks, butter slides off honey says.)

it?

DILUTING CHRIST OWN WORDS

about what

it is a time of?

Because The Tribulation Time

is far more than:

"TRIBULATION

A time of great disasters on earth"

To even suggest

that is what it is?

IS SEVERLY MISLEADING

Theres an old Gospel song

sung by Elvis Presley called:

"Where could I go

but to the lord."

That is about

the best one line description

of the entire book of revelation

as you're ever going to get.

Better to be naked,

hungry and cold,

with no shelter

here in this realm for a while,

if that's what it takes

to get you to come to your senses

and accept Christ

as risen Lord and savior

than it would be

to suffer eternally.

Yea!

Were done with terminology lol.

Moving on:

Slide two

Second Coming

The rapture and the second coming are simultaneous.

The ~~rapture~~

"The Resurrection of believers",

the "rapture"

is supposedly of

"the church".

See the Apostles Creed above.)

MILLENIUM

Present and future

"Christ rules now

and in the future

on earth

and not necessarily

for 1000 years."

NEWSFLASH TO ALL

WHO DONT KNOW OR UNDERSTAD

SATAN RULES THIS WICKED WORLD.

He can only do what got allows him

but he rules this wicked world.

Blows my mind

just how many knowledgeable

individuals do not know

or understand this:

Sunday, February 23, 2025

Satan

the God of this Earth.

PERIOD.

Revelation 11:4

These are the two olive trees,

and the two candlesticks

standing before the God of the earth.

(Thats not the Logos, Thats not the Spirit, Thats not the Creator. Thats not all three of them together. Its pretty obvious who that is referencing as the two witnesses have no need to "stand(ing) before the God of the earth. He commissioned them already, he knows whats up, why would they need to do that for?

However, as they come on the scene at the start of Daniels seventieth seven? With Gods favor? (protection). They have ample cause to stand in front of this world, Satan, and tell him:

"Enough is enough.

No more.

You know who we are and so do we.

We have both known it for some time now.

Were fighting back against your ways and your wicked world system and were gonna take a bunch of people with us.

And you are powerless to stop us

and we both have known that for a long time as well."

Which context makes more sense?

Hum?"

Also see:

Luke 4:5-7

And the devil took him up and showed him

all the kingdoms of the world

in a moment of time, 6 and said to him,

“To you I will give

all this authority

and their glory,

for it has been delivered to me,

and I give it to whom I will. 7

If you, then, will worship me, it will all be yours.”

Revelation 11:15

The Seventh Trumpet

The seventh angel sounded his trumpet,

and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

“The kingdom of the world

has become

the kingdom of our Lord

and of his Messiah,

and he will reign for ever and ever.”

Well if The kingdom of the world

"has become"

the kingdom of our Lord

and of his Messiah,

and he will reign for ever and ever.”

at the seventh trumpet?

Then whose was it previously?

See Luke 4:5-7 above.

And

John 14:30

Hereafter I will not talk much with you:

for the prince of this world cometh,

and hath nothing in me.

Who is "the prince of this world"

Cause its obviously not Christ

as he is talking about somebody else.

And if you have a problem with:

"He (Satan) can only do what got allows him

but he rules this wicked world."

Then refer to Revelation 17:17

For God hath put it

in their hearts

(All of the Satanically energized entities listed above)

to fullfill his will,

and to agree, and to give

their kingdom unto the Beast

So saying:

"Christ rules now...

On this earth"

Simply contradicts scripture.

It is enough

to make me wonder:

Why should I even listen

to this individual any more?

If we are only two slides in (of 9)

and the Tribulation has been softened up

and watered down to something it isn't

and Christ himself didn't say it was

and four other verses

are directly contradicted?

SO WHY

should I believe anything else

that is presented?

Historical Premillennialism

is called such

because

IT IS

the view held by the overwhelming majority,

if not all of the early Church fathers,

and

the overwhelming

body of Christ today.

And most of them

believed in

a literal

1000 year reign

of Christ

AND IT IS STILL

the overwhelming consensus

throughout the vast majority

of Christendom

regardless of what

Evangelicals in the United States want to believe.

Detour time:

Your Logical fallacy is

Anecdotal

You used a personal experience

or an isolated example

instead of

a sound argument

or compelling evidence.

(Or both)

If all that evangelicals

in the United States have been exposed to

or taught

is wrong?

(Pretribulation Rapture of the Church)

Then you are going to consider

falsehood correct.

One simply MUST consider

sound arguments

with more compelling evidence.

Also?

Historical Premillennialist

also believed in a

"Post Tribulation"

resurrection of believers

Not

"A Rapture of "The Church".

Let me put it to you this way.

Practically every Christian

before John Darby

in the 1830's held this view.

Practically Everyone.

(Some try to make the point

"well this guy back in time

or this guy here before Darby"

and its all 100% irrelevant.)

If you could go back

to before 1830

and started talking

"Pretribulation rapture of the church"

to Christians in that time frame?

THEY WOULD LOOK AT YOU

LIKE YOU HAD CARROTTS

GROWING OUT OF YOUR EARS.

CAUSE IT DIDNT EXIST!

IT WASNT EVEN A CONCEPT!

This 1000 year time frame where Christ rules

can be looked at as an "intermediate" stage

that comes at the end of this wicked age

but BEFORE the final eternal state.

WHY?

It's all part of the process

of 100%

removing Evil from this world.

The Judgement in this slide is

"The Judgement Seat of Christ"

2 Corinthians 5:10

SO:

Christ Returns.

Matthew 24:29-30

Satan is bound up

Revelation 20:1-3

Nations are judged.

Matthew 25:31-46

Christians get their rewards.

2 Corinthians 5:10

1st Corinthians 3:11-15

Millennial reign begins.

Revelation 20:4-6

Martyrs will teach those

who never heard

the gospel.

vs 6

Blessed and holy is he

that hath part

in the first resurrection:

Why else would you have Christ

and the Martyrs together for 1000 years?

Unless they were "sharing" something?

"to hath part"

And

"they shall be priests of God and of Christ"

Who are they ministering to exactly?

Noah's age understood and

it didn't end so good.

Our age understands

and it aint gonna end so good.

You know who the best students are?

Those with a clean slate.

Their minds haven't been polluted

by a bunch of nonsense.

Satan is let out at the end

of the millennial Kingdom

to test its citizens

and also those born in this time frame.

Revelation 20:7

And when the thousand years are expired,

Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

And even with the best teachers and evil having been removed for 1000 years? It's still the same result as in Noah's age as well as the result we are currently seeing in ours.

WICKEDNESS ABOUNDS.

Then:

A repeat of our ages Armageddon

(Gog and Magog revisited)

(Revelation 20:8)

Then

White throne Judgment.

(Revelation 20:11-15)

Then

New Heaven, New Earth,

New Jerusalem etc.

Revelation 21

So that's kinda filling in from

The judgment seat of Christ

To New Heaven New Earth etc.

The thing to remember is:

THIS WAS THE VIEW

OF THE EARLY CHURCH FATHERS.

(Except for

Revelation 20:4-6

about who the martyrs shall be

priest of Christ and God to.

Personal Revelation from the Holy Spirit.)

Christ comes back

at the end of the tribulation:

Matthew 24:29-30

(Christ talking to his disciples)

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Post tribulation.

Period.

Anything else?

Contradicts the words of Christ himself.

And I do not care

who fell for some other nonsense

nor do I care where they learned it

or who they learned it from.

You have to remember

Satan started taking over the seminaries in this country

right about the time

"The church" in this country

MARRIED itself to political power.

I aint no PhD candidate.

My education in these matters

comes straight from the holy spirit.

Christ comes back

after

the last of Daniels 70/7's.

(Postribulation,

he said so himself)

and sets up a 1000 year reign

before the eternal rule

of God

(Premillennialism).

NOBODY

UNTILL JOHN DARBY

AND HIS

PLYMOUTH BRETHERN

IN THE 1830's.

HAD EVER HEARD OF

"The Rapture of the Church"

before (pre)

the tribulation period

the last of Daniels seventy sevens.

NOBODY.

EVER.

Things always move

from a state of purity

in the beginning to being:

watered down,

diluted, perverted,

and corrupted over time.

ALWAYS.

IT IS A NATURAL LAW.

Every single man made institution ever.

This is why man needs

a relationship

with his creator

not a religion.

(And all the ecclesiastics

are now shaking in their shoes.)

This shows man is a fallen creature

as well as gives credence to the idea

that the second law of thermodynamics

(Things tend to a state of

weakening, destruction and death)

applies to more

than just physical things

(conservation of energy etc.)

This is what we

ALWAYS

see over time:

From pure to:

Gross,

corrupted,

polluted,

diluted.

Never do we see

the opposite:

Never.

Sunday, July 7, 2024

Yeah (Biblical Demonology Pt.1)

were gonna go here for a while:

Dispensational Premillennialism

Im going to say it again:

NOBODY

UNTILL JOHN DARBY

AND HIS PLYMOUTH BRETHERN

IN THE 1830's,

HAD EVER HEARD OF

"The Rapture of the Church"

before (pre) the tribulation period

the last of Daniels seventy sevens.

The culmination of this wicked age.

NOBODY.

EVER.

(If they did and there were some?

They were of absolutely no consequence

till Darby came along.)

Problem:

"Second coming

Two phases:

Rapture of the Church

and to rule on the earth

seven years later.

Lets see what our Lord and savior said about

his second coming to his disciples again:

Mathew 24: 29-31

“Immediately

after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,

and the moon will not give its light;

the stars will fall from the sky,

and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'

30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call,

(Notice again that

didn't say seventh.)

and they will gather his elect from the four winds,

from one end of the heavens to the other.

See where Christ said

it was a two part event?

Yeah I don't see it either.

Know why he didn't say

anything about it?

BECAUSE IT'S SIMPLY

NOT THE CASE!

It sure sold a lot of books though.

Seems to me like,

if that was the case?

And it was

a two part event?

Surely

he would have said something about it.

HE NEVER EVER

NOT ONCE

TALKED ABOUT

"The RAPTURE of the Church"

(taken against your will

see harpazō above)

prior to

his second coming.

Not once ever.

The concept of a "pretribulation"

"rapture of the church"

Isnt just diluting God's word

or watering it down,

IT IS A DIRCET CONTRADICTION

OF THE VERY WORDS OF CHRIST HIMSELF.

Who but Satan?

Would want you

caught off guard?

Thinking you're going to

be able to avoid the tribulation?

Not to mention

what was just said above:

Sunday, July 7, 2024

Yeah (Biblical Demonology Pt.1)

were gonna go here for a while:

"...it clashes with the witness comparative religion,

which also notes a downward rather than an upward tendency in ethnic faiths.

Professor Renouf notes the same phenomenon in ancient Egypt where the sublimer portions of Egyptian religion are demonstrably ancient and

the "last stage ...was by far the grossest and most corrupt."

Modern Hinduism represents a deterioration from the higher religious conceptions in the Vedas. In South Africa, Australia, and elsewhere, traditions still persist of a Creator of all things, but his worship has been set aside in favor of lower and evil deities. The same is true of ancient Babylonia and Assyria.

Similar declination has more than once manifested itself in ancient Israel, and in the Christian Church, rendering periodic revival and return to the truth imperative.

Unger

Biblical Demonology p.13

Hardcopy)

So the farther removed

from the source we become?

The more things become:

"a downward

rather than an upward tendency"

(Mirrors the natural laws we see

the second law of thermodynamics)

AND?

"the "last stage...was by far

the grossest and most corrupt."

Which is exactly

where we are right now:

(Charlie Kirk Memorial.

Charged to get in
and sold merchandise,
Money changers in the Temple much?)

And it is simply

beyond gross at this point.

"Resurrection

The church is resurrected at the rapture..."

Show me the verse

that says that:

"The church is resurrected at the rapture..."

Better yet?

Show me where Christ himself said it.

HE NEVER EVER DID.

"The Church"

needs to be

resuscitated

from its unconsciousness

BEFORE

it's individual members are

"resurrected".

(Thats my logic for Church not being mentioned in the book of revelation from chapters 4-19. As it doesn't contradict Christ own words.)

Resurrected

is for the individual

Last six lines of The Apostles Creed

(established approx. 39AD.)

"I believe in the Holy Spirit,

the holy catholic (universal) Church,

the communion of saints,

the forgiveness of sins,

the resurrection of the body,

and life everlasting.

39 AD

is a lot closer to source

than John Darby

ever was in 1830.

The only reason this is hard to accept

is because in The Western World

(Which is the only place this concept ever

gained any traction)

we want things easy.

Were fat.

Were lazy:

Intellectually

Morally

Spiritually

and

Physically.

And we want things

made easy for us.

YOU HONESTLY THINK

SATAN DOESNT KNOW

ALL OF THIS?

"Come we go chant down Babylon

For them soft!

Yes, them soft! (ah-yoy!)

Them soft!

Yes, them soft! (ah-yoy!)"

You already know who:

If you were Satan?

Where would you attack first?

Trying to get as many

to come with you to Hell

as you could?

Battle hardened warriors

ready to fight to the death?

Or people who want things easy?

I dont think

that is a very hard question to answer.

The concept of the pretribulation rapture of the church

is nothing but

part of the Satanic Delusion

that comes upon this world

2 Thessalonians 2:11-12

And for this cause

God shall send them

strong delusion,

that they should believe a lie:

That they all might be damned

who believed not the truth,

but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

near the end of this wicked age

as it

DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS

(not merely waters down,

pollutes or corrupts)

the very words of Christ himself.

And I don't care who all fell for it:

Chuck Missler

(probably my favorite evangelists BTW)

John Hagee

John Macarthur etc...

And I like those guys,

it just shows how susceptible we all are

to Satan's delusions

and how we have to

arm ourselves

with the knowledge of scripture

to fight against it.

Not to mention

it just does not match up

with what we see

in our world right now:

"In other words, does the viewpoint...demonstrate a proper method of interpreting Scripture?...

Does it fit the facts of history?

Walvoord

Millennial Series: Part 4:

Amillenniallism from Augustine

to Modern Times

This list of satanically energized

entities listed above

are all here

on this earth

right now:

Ten Kings without a kingdom.

The Beast from the Abyss.

The Beast from Land.

The Beast from the Sea.

The woman and

the scarlet Beast

The Kings from the East.

The Synagogue of Satan.

You don't get all of that put together

and then they just sit around and wait

for the last of Daniels 70/7's to begin.

ITS HERE RIGHT NOW.

"Well that's just your interpretation."

By the power of the Holy Spirit indwelling, I have made more accurate predictions, across a wide variety of disciplines, than "the experts" in those disciplines have for years on end now. I have always given credit to the Holy Spirit for that spiritual gift.

As well as cross-referenced verses that hadn't been cross referenced previously.

(Reference:

Friday, December 27, 2024

and

Tuesday, August 26, 2025

Revelation 12 Commentary (It's more personal than you might think)

So if:

"Well that's just your interpretation."

is your argument?

Then how were the accurate predictions borne out?

How were verse that weren't cross-referenced previously imparted?

And to what power would you attribute those occurances?

Cause my argument is:

The same power that produced the accurate predictions?

Produced the scripture interpretations.

AND ANYBODY

ON THIS PLANET

THAT WANTS TO COME EXPALIN

HOW THAT IS NOT THE CASE?

CAN DO SO RIGHT HERE:

But know this,

we got back up

over here:

(Not a moth BTW and wasnt seen

when the picture was being taken.)

And Ananias and Sapphira

were flat out

knocked dead

by the Holy Spirit

when they lied to it.

Acts 5:1-11

WE ARE NOT HERE TO

ARGUE OR DEBATE!

WE ARE HERE TO INSTRUCT!

WHAT IS TO DEBATE

AT THIS POINT?

AND WE DONT CARE ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA FOLLOWERS, LIKES, and SHARES AND GETTING ON SOME PODCAST, (OR ANY OTHER BROADCAST) LIKE ITS SOME KINDA BIG BADGE OF HONOR TO BE WORN ETC.

WHO CARES?

(I said years ago, I wont do interviews, if people wanna know what I think? They can read it all or listen to it then. Simply no need for me to explain anything that I haven't already done so and do it in an interview.)

And if you aint with the plan?

Then you in the way.

Period.

Because:

"the "last stage ...

was by far the grossest and most corrupt.

Similar declination
has more than once manifested itself...
in the Christian Church,
rendering periodic revival
and return to the truth imperative."

If there was ever a need for:

"periodic revival

and return to the truth"

for the Christian Church?

It is right now.

More yet:

Another point I like to bring up is that

John Darby, Dispensationalism, and Margaret MacDonald’s edited visions all showed up

close to the end if not sometime right after

the Industrial Revolution.

I think its important for us to remember that Satan was Gods right hand man, (Ez 28:14) and just like a mob boss lieutenant? He thought he should be in charge.

He knows what the plan is

is what I am getting at,

just not the particular specifics.

"So what does that have to do with the Industrial revolution Drew?"

When Satan saw: water power, steam engines, trains, automated manufacturing processes show up?

He knew where that was going to lead

and that technology would lead man away from his creator more so than anything else had beforehand.

"The goal of technology

is and always has been

to replace religion

with entertainment."

Pete Townsend,

The Who.

Kinda explains

the rock opera "Tommy"

in one sentence

but I digress again lol.)

But if Pete Townsend knew that in the late 60's

early 70's, you think Satan didnt know it at the onset

of the industrial revolution

??????????

Thats more than a lil hard to buy.

And now look at where we are,

and consider:

Daniel 12:4

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end:

many shall run to and fro,

and knowledge shall be increased.

"even to the time of the end"

Right now, our age

"many shall run to and fro"

To argue that people aren't living

a faster paced, increased in hecticness,

24/7 life style in our world

than people were just some 20 years ago?

Would be just an absurd position to take.

Life has gotten more hectic,

and the whole point has been

to take your eyes off of your creator.

and knowledge shall be increased.

Lots of commentators make this about

"Knowledge of the Lord."

I completely disagree.

Its simply not what it says.

Every time, you press a character on a keyboard on a computer that is online or a phone keyboard, or swipe a phone, or a magnetic strip of any kind? (Debit, credit cards etc)

There is a record of it.

There is "knowledge"

that just happened.

IBM Knowledge Graph from a few years back.

Not to mention, we've become so knowledgeable

as to think its perfectly fine

for man to surpass Gods crowning achievement,

the merger of the physical and the spiritual in man,

by creating fake brains?

The whole point in all of this is:

SATAN SAW IT COMING

SOME 200 YEARS AGO

OR SO.

And that is the reason for:

Dispensationalism

and its

"Pretribulation rapture"

that directly contradicts

the words of Christ

as well as Dispensationalism

other components such as

"Christian Zionism"

which have not been borne out

over time.

"Christian Zionism is a political and religious ideology that, in a Christian context, espouses the return of the Jewish people to the Holy Land. Likewise, it holds that the founding of the State of Israel in 1948 was in accordance with biblical prophecies transmitted through the Old Testament: that the re-establishment of Jewish sovereignty in the Levant—the eschatological "Gathering of Israel"—is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. The term began to be used in the mid-20th century, in place of Christian restorationism, as proponents of the ideology rallied behind Zionists in support of a Jewish national homeland.

An expectation of Jewish restoration among Christians is rooted in 17th-century English Puritan thought. Christian pro-Zionist ideals emerged in that context. Contemporary Israeli historian Anita Shapira suggests that England's Zionist Evangelical Protestants "passed this notion on to Jewish circles" around the 1840s.

While supporting a mass Jewish return to the Land of Israel, Christian Zionism asserts a parallel idea that the returnees ought to be encouraged to reject Judaism and adopt Christianity as a means of fulfilling biblical prophecies. Polling and academic research have suggested a trend of widespread distrust among Jews towards the motives of Evangelical Protestants, who have been promoting support for the State of Israel and evangelizing the Jews at the same time.

Orthodox Jews hate it BTW.

They think its trying to do The Messiahs work for him.

They see it as blasphemous.

MY PERSOANL BELIEFS:

1) Israel has the right to exist.

2) Its coming into existence in 1948 was

a fulfillment of biblical prophecy.

2) You can believe that

and

you don't have to support

Christian Zionism

and that doesnt make you

an anti-Semite.

3) The Palestinian cause is no more noble than others who have lost ancestral homelands:

Native Americans, Mexicans, Armenians, Kurds etc.

4) Current Israeli leadership is under Satan's control

(Revelation 2:9, 3:9)

5) This belief of "we have to support Israel no matter what"

led us straight to supporting war crimes and war criminals against humanity.

And notice when all of this started:

"An expectation of Jewish restoration among Christians is rooted in 17th-century English Puritan thought. Christian pro-Zionist ideals emerged in that context. Contemporary Israeli historian Anita Shapira suggests that England's Zionist Evangelical Protestants "passed this notion on to Jewish circles" around the 1840s."

Remember what happens

the farther we get removed from source:

Polluted, corrupted, diluted etc.

Always.

So how does any of this match up

with "The facts of History"

that we see before us these days?

"In other words, does the viewpoint...demonstrate a proper method of interpreting Scripture?...

Does it fit the facts of history?

Walvoord

Millennial Series: Part 4:

Amillenniallism from Augustine

to Modern Times

The fact is,

once again

they simply dont.

"US Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee, left, is escorted by Father Jack-Noble Abed, priest of the Melkite Greek Catholic Church, during a tour in the archeological site of the Church of St. George, the site of a recent Israeli settler attack, during his visit to the West Bank town of Taybeh, east of Ramallah, July 19, 2025. (AP/Nasser Nasser)

Also see

Causing strategic, moral harm,

Netanyahu lets others dictate Israel’s ties with Christians

And:

Israeli Ethnic Cleansing of Arab Christians

►Before 1948: Palestinian Christians made up 12.5% of population in historic Palestine.

►Today: Palestinian Christians make up 1.2% of population in historic Palestine.

(Higher Presidential Committee for Church Affairs in Palestine)

Al-Quds (Jerusalem) Churches Under Attack

►Israel has launched a coordinated aggression against churches in Al-Quds

Authorities froze bank accounts of Orthodox Patriarchate, violated Status Quo, and issued foreclosure orders to confiscate land from Armenian Church

►They aim to weaken Christian presence in Holy Land

(Higher Presidential Committee for Church Affairs in Palestine)

Beit Lahm:

Birthplace of Christ Under Siege

Beit Lahm, once a thriving city of 37 km², has been strangled by illegal settlements, checkpoints, and Israel's apartheid wall

►Today, it has been reduced to just 7.3 km²

► Israel's E1 colonial plan threatens to cut Beit Lahm off completely from Al-Quds, erasing its historic and spiritual ties to Holy City

(Higher Presidential Committee for Church Affairs in Palestine)

Okay?

So it hasnt worked.

They dont want Christians there

any more than they do Muslims.

What we see

just doesnt match up

with the outcome

that was expected

Im going to put it in my own words:

We (Christians) have to get

them (Jews)

back to Israel

so that we

can convert them

so that we

can usher in

or at least accelerate

Christ second coming.

(Kingdom on earth)

Now compare that to:

Matthew 7:21-23

I Never Knew You

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord,

did we not

prophesy in your name,

and cast out demons in your name,

and do many mighty works in your name?’

23 And then will I declare to them,

‘I never knew you; depart from me,

you workers of lawlessness.’

CAUSE ITS NEVER ABOUT ANYTHING

ANYBODY EVER DID

BUT ABOUT WHAT CHRIST DID YOU YOU.

Christian Zionism is making it about

what individuals have done,

just like in Matthew 7:21-23.

If you really want to help usher in

Christ Kingdom

here on earth?

Then why not just:

Mark 12:30-31

"...love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Seems a lot

easier, simpler, cheaper,

and closer to home

than supporting

a political cause

rooted in 17th century England

that takes away from

the providence of God.

God needs your help

to usher in the second coming?

It's complete nonsense.

See above about

dont care who you are

who taught you etc.

Point being?

That is two separate instances

where Dispensationalism

just doesnt match up

with the facts of history

presented before us.

Because it's a non-biblical viewpoint.

It came to the game late

and It's just not rooted in scripture.

So why are we surprised at what we are seeing

with this viewpoint?

When a doctrine says the opposite of the words of Christ, relies on things that were never said, doesn't match up with the reality we see unfolding in front of us? And has parts of it that are just man taking things into his own hands?

At what point do you say to yourself:

"That was wrong.

We shouldn't have went that direction

We had better change course."

Because if you think there is some magic carpet ride out of the tribulation, led by somebody that nobody knows who it is (cause it aint Christ, because he comes here) to somewhere that nobody knows where, and that somehow along the way 50,000 different denominations somehow manage to morph into

"his bride has made herself ready" (Revelation 19:7)

??????????

(See Billy Graham screenshot above

about fundamentalist Christians

marrying

themselves to a political ideology.

When that doesn't happen for you?

Like you were taught/told/sold

that it was going to?

YOU MIGHT JUST CUSS GOD

AND PERISH.

(Ref Job 2:9)

Which would be exactly

what Satan would want.

Revelation 2:10

Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Look, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison to test you, and you will suffer tribulation for ten days. Be faithful even unto death, and I will give you the crown of life.

John 15:18-19

If the world hate you,

ye know that

it hated me before it hated you.

19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

Matthew 24:10

10 And then shall many be offended,

and shall betray one another,

and shall hate one another.

Matthew 24:22

(Christ own words again)

And except those days should be shortened,

there should no flesh be saved:

but for the elect's sake

those days shall be shortened.

We should be expecting sufferings, hardships and persecutions, as this is what Christ says,

he never ever said one thing

about a magic carpet ride to nowhere

led by somebody nobody knows. And somehow 50,000 different denominations managed to morph into, "his bride has made herself ready" (Revelation 19:7) along the way.

How do yall get back to earth

where Christ is

Anyway?

And who leads you?

ITS SATANIC NONSENSE

THAT CAME WAY LATE

TO THE GAME.

That gives it away.

Right there.

Plain and simple.

Go back and read the Unger quote

from Biblical demonology again.

IF YOU WANNA GO WITH IT?

FINE.

KNOW THIS:

YOU ARE GOING AGAINST

WHAT THE EARLY CHURCH FATHERS

AND THE OVERWHELMING

MAJORITY OF CHRISTENDOM

HAS EVER BELIEVED.

No, I aint done.

One more point.

To every single person who holds this view?

When you get done answering all the other questions that it creates?

That you cant answer with scripture BTW.

Sound doctrine answers questions

not causes more,

why that is so hard for people to grasp

is just beyond me.

But when you get done answering all of those questions listed above about "the pretribulation rapture of the church."?

Then answer me this one:

When does the wheat

get separated from the chaff?

Matthew 3:11-12
(John The Baptist talkin)

I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

12 Whose fan is in his hand, and

he will throughly PURGE his floor,

and gather his wheat into the garner;

but he will

burn up the chaff

with unquenchable fire.

That aint Wheat and Tares.

Wheat and Tares

are two separate things.

(Matthew 13:24-30

Entire parable)

30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.”

Wheat and chaff?

Are two parts of the same whole.

AND THERE IS

SIMPLY A LOT OF CHAFF

(not good for nothin)

sitting in church

on Sundays

these days,

that just want

things made easy for

themselves.

Back to the definition of

Purge:

1. rid (someone or something)

of an unwanted quality, condition, or feeling.

2. remove (a group of people considered undesirable)

from an organization or place

in an abrupt or violent way.

There is your harpazo

(being snatched away against your will)

and you are not going to like

where you are going.

So your magic carpet ride

to nowhere, just aint gonna happen,

hasnt happened in fact.

As it contradicts the word of God.

And it doesn't match up

with what we are seeing:

Conditions have been met.

Satanically energized entities are here.

"In other words, does the viewpoint...

demonstrate a proper method of interpreting Scripture?...

Does it fit the facts of history?

So to all the Pretribulationist?

When does the wheat get separated

from the chaff?

Cause to me?

It happens during the tribulation period.

Isaiah 48:10-11

Behold, I have refined you,

but not as silver;

I have tested you

in the furnace of affliction.

11 For My own sake,

for My own sake,

I will do it;

For how should My name

be profaned?

And I will not give My glory

to another.

Bob Marley sang:

"Soon we will find out

who is

the real revolutionaries."

YOU HAD BETTER BELIEVE

WE ARE GOING TO FIND OUT

AND A LOT

AINT GONNA BE

WHO YOU THINK .

GUARANTEED.

No still not done with

Dispensationalist Premillennialism.

"Tribulation

The church is caught up (snatched away) to be with Jesus pre, mid or post tribulation."

That is just blatantly false.

That is simply not

the position of non-biblical

"Dispensationalism."

If it wasnt for

Dispensationalism?

There wouldn't have ever been

the concept of

"The Pretribulation Rapture

of The Church."

To assert that there are Mid or Post

tribulationist factions within in Dispensationalism?

Is just false.

Like I said earlier

if somebody says:

"Christ rules now"

(This world)

Directly contradicting scripture?

Then why in the world

should I believe them

about anything else?

And I thank the individual that posted these

for giving me the opportunity

to sharpen my sword and educate others BTW.

Seriously, I Appreciate it.

The Holy spirit has already done the leg work for you in regards to these matters. You are not going to top what has already been presented.

This is the Holy Spirit indwelling in two people

expressly for these times.

To think that these are just scholarly endeavors that just anybody could engage in, or emulate or supersede?

Is to not understand

what time we are living in

and who we are.

So have fun with that.

There are two people

chosen by God

on this earth right now

to give you expert analysis

and play by play

of the first half of

the last of Daniels 70/7's.

You don't wanna believe it?

Then don't.

But it wont matter

a hill of beans

as far as

what is going to happen.

Summary of the critique of

Dispensationalist Premillennialism:

1) It contradicts Christ own words

2) It is nowhere near

the "purity of thought"

of those closest to the source.

(Early Church fathers)

3) It is not consistent

with what we see happening

in our world toady.

(Conditions have been met:

What was holding evil back has been removed

Satanically energized forces are here

Falling away has occurred etc.

4) Christian Zionism is an abject failure

but the pretribulation rapture is true?

5) It violates the laws of nature.

(Things move from a pure state

to a corrupt, polluted one.)

And the single most damning piece of evidence

that just puts the nail in the coffin of this train of thought is:

6) "...it clashes with the witness comparative religion,

which also notes a downward rather than an upward tendency in ethnic faiths. Professor Renouf notes the same phenomenon in ancient Egypt where the sublimer portions of Egyptian religion are demonstrably ancient and the "last stage ...was by far the grossest and most corrupt." Modern Hinduism represents a deterioration from the higher religious conceptions in the Vedas. In South Africa, Australia, and elsewhere, traditions still persist of a Creator of all things, but his worship has been set aside in favor of lower and evil deities. The same is true of ancient Babylonia and Assyria.

Similar declination has more than once manifested itself in ancient Israel, and in the Christian Church, rendering periodic revival and return to the truth imperative."

Unger

Biblical Demonology p.13

Hardcopy)

To try and argue

that late stage Christianity

gets more correct,

than those closest to the source did?

If that is the position you take?

It is 100% irrational.

Its simply not

what we have witnessed

anywhere else.

Side number 4.

This is simple.

So easy.

What fits

what we are seeing?

(Follow the direction of the arrows)

This:

Or this:

??????????

"In other words,

does the viewpoint...

demonstrate a proper method

of interpreting Scripture?...

Does it fit the facts of history?

(Yeah I know you are going to get sick of reading that quote lol.)

The facts are plainly obvious

one is correct

and one is faulty thinking.

And once again

I simply do not care

how many I alienate.

It's irrelevant.

This has been proven untrue

by what we are currently seeing.

I dont care what the Catholic

or any other

Church or denomination thinks,

to argue

that this is what we are seeing:

is 100% irrational

as It just doesn't match up

with what we see.

I dont argue or debate

with irrational people.

There is just no point in it.

You wanna deny what we are seeing?

Thats on you

and it doesn't matter:

"Well thats what I was taught."

"Well thats what

we always have believed."

Detour:

I used to manage restaurants.

I had a person who

was a staff member

but was in a leadership position

tell me once:

"Well thats how

we have always done it."

My reply:

"Well then you have always

done it wrong then."

Look at what it says:

"The kingdom is present in the church age

as Christ rules in the hearts of believers."

Translation:

Christ in your heart

and there is no millennial Kingdom.

Chuck Missler said it best:

"Amillennialism calls God a liar."

I 100% agree with that statement.

Unlike Dispensational Premillennialism

this has roots back to Augustine.

"Augustine is, then, the first theologian of solid influence who adopted amillennialism.

The second reason for the importance of Augustinian amillennialism is that his viewpoint became the prevailing doctrine of the Roman Church, and it was adopted with variations by most of the Protestant Reformers"