the stupidest garbage
I have read in a long time.
Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise,
they became fools,
@futuregenquantum(IG)
" A new study from
UBC Okanagan has delivered a
major blow to the popular "simulation hypothesis."
Using Gödel's incompleteness theorem,
physicists now argue
that the universe cannot be
fully simulated - not even in principle.
Their conclusion:
Reality isn't algorithmic.
Who ever said it had to be
in the first place
???????????
And why do you think
they are out to dispel it
"NOW"
??????????
Way to go team!
This community is making inroads
or we wouldn't be seeing
this kinda push back.
"physicists now argue"
They are only doing so
"NOW"
because certain
"theologians"
or what have you,
have "bought in"
so to speak
as it fits
biblically.
Hebrews 11:3
3 Through faith we understand
that
the worlds
(Ant hills,
deep under the sea,
The cell,
Subatomic,
all of em...)
were framed
by the word of God,
(The language of God
is math BTW.)
so that
things which are seen
were not made
of things
which do appear.
"The universe contains
truths and structures
that no computational system
can fully capture."
Gee thanks,
never knew...
Sarcasm BTW...
What if its a living
intelligence
they dont think exist?
So they just rule it out
at the onset?
And not:
"a computational system"
THEN WHAT?
Thats two presuppositions put forth
for this argument
without any evidence:
1) "Reality isn't algorithmic"
2) "that no computational system
can fully capture"
Classic Straw Man much?
"You misrepresented someone's argument
to make it easier to attack.
By exaggerating, misrepresenting, or just completely fabricating someone's argument, it's much easier to present your own position as being reasonable, but this kind of dishonesty serves to undermine honest rational debate."
They deliberately set up the argument
so they could make their own points
breaking it down,
AND
besides that?
Isaiah 55:8-9
For my thoughts
are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways
my ways,
saith the Lord.
9 For as the heavens are higher
than the earth,
so are my ways
higher than your ways,
and my thoughts
than your thoughts.
So who ever said
you have to have a
"computational system"
for our reality to exist
to begin with
??????????
Was automatically limiting options
as to how that reality could exit
from the onset.
IT GOES
TO SHOW INTENT.
"Gödel showed that
any algorithmic system
has limits - statements that are true
but impossible for the system to prove."
(Who ever said it was an
"algorithmic system"
to start with?)
"statements that are true
but impossible
for the system to prove"
Thats kinda why
it is called faith
you cant prove it
otherwise God is a dictator.
AND?
It also gives you free with
as to whether or not
you would wish to
BELIEVE:
"statements that are true
but impossible
for the system to prove"
HELLO?
ANYBODY HOME?)
"The researchers
(It's a philosophical argument
you cant put it in a Petri dish.)
"applied this reasoning
to physics
and found that
the laws of the universe
rely on forms of
"non-algorithmic
understanding"
that no simulator,
no matter how advanced,
could reproduce.
(Just because
the laws of the universe
rely on forms of
"non-algorithmic understanding"
DOES NOT MEAN
it can not be a simulation.
More coming up here in a second.
"In simple terms:
If the universe were a simulation,
it would have to run on rules
simpler than reality."
(Says who?
Infinite wisdom
just might have
something different
to say about that.
See Isaiah 55:8-9
above.
by my count.)
"But reality itself
contains phenomena
that cannot be
reduced to finite algorithms."
(Yeah?, no kiddin?
but we're still here right?
So maybe
you just assumed wrong
from the outset
??????????
Is that not an option or something?
If:
"reality contains phenomena
that cannot be
reduced to finite algorithms"
Then why
are we assuming from the onset:
"Reality isn't algorithmic."
??????????
I or any number of people
could have informed them of that.
"So according to this new mathematical proof:
The universe is not computable
No simulator could contain all of its truths
(Infinite wisdom can
and does however.)
Therefore, the universe cannot be a simulation."
(Only if you exclude
the option mentioned
in my comment
directly above.)
"A bold result - and a major challenge
to one of the most popular philosophical ideas of our time."
Such a bunch of AI garbage.
But I had also read a couple other things about it
that weren't from a social media site.
Universe as a hologram
Goes like this okay?
It's not about any
algorithmic systems.
If it were?
We would know the precise location
of electrons.
We dont
and I or any number of other people
could have informed them of such.)
Instead
what isn't being addressed here
and it is being done
PURPOSLY MIND YOU
is this:
Everything you see
is made of atoms.
Even a lot of things you dont see
(Gases, etc...)
And 99.99999999999996%
of what makes up atoms,
are electrical and magnetic fields.
WHICH ARE NOT VISABLE.
(The colored space shown
in-between the nucleolus and the electron.)
And?
if our realty were a
"algorithmic system"
as is presupposed
in this bunch of nonsense
then we would know
the precise location of an electron
which we can not compute.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE
THEY WOULD HAVE KNOWN SO.
OH! THEY DID!
THEN WHY EVEN BOTHER
WITH THIS MINDLESS DRIVEL
IN THE FIRST PLACE?
So thanks for coming,
drive home safely
TRY AGAIN.
"Researchers" lol.
Wrote a philosophical position paper
that takes about 5 minutes
for an 8th grader to destroy.
And these guys got PHD's and shit?
WTH?
So I go back
to one of my original questions:
Why do you think
any of them
felt the need
to do any of this
"NOW"
as in:
"physicists now argue"
Pretty obvious
why "Now"
if you ask me,
or even if you don't.
AND
if it were true?
AND
if it were that simple?
Then somebody else
would have came up with it
a long time before now.
So yeah
back to the drawing board yo.
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