REVELATION 12
General Summary:
The birth
of both
Christ Church,
they being one of the same
The first and the last.
Satan's war in Heaven
whereby he is cast out.
Satans war
where he is cast down
to the earth
by Michael.
(Distinct from the first
They are two separate events)
Satan's other wars
against the above mentioned
first and last church.
REVELATION 12
VERSES 1-2.
And there appeared a great wonder in heaven;
a woman clothed with the sun,
and the moon under her feet,
and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried,
travailing in birth,
and pained to be delivered.
Fulfilled.
23rd September 2017
Coming up on 8 years ago now.
Go figure.
I have already wrote about this extensively:
(Thats every time its mentioned on here.
Ctrl f and enter:
September 23rd 2017
in the search box
to find each specific instance
on the corresponding page)
Covered it in the
"Noah to New earth"
video presentation series as well.
This particular alignment
occurs only once
every three thousand years.
So it cant be about Christ birth.
As the last time it happened
would have been before he was born.
2017-3000 = 983 bc.
Everybody was thinking it might be some big
earth shattering event that day,
that view overlooks:
"and pained to be delivered."
NIV renders:
"She was pregnant
and cried out in pain
as she was about
to give birth."
Not that she was giving birth
or that she had given birth
but that she was:
"about to"
give birth.
(Hey the NIV has its place occasionally
just not for specifics or detailed word meanings etc.)
Reference Genesis:1:14
And God said,
“Let there be lights
in the vault of the sky
to separate
the day from the night,
and let them serve as signs
to mark sacred times,
and days and years,
(Notice which reason
came before the other:
"let them serve as signs
to mark sacred times"
Shows the priority of it over:
"and days and years"
which is a secondary function.
Side note lol.
I'm in verse 2
and I'm already in a side note lol:
"a crown of twelve stars"
Obviously mirrors the 12 tribes
and the 12 disciples.
"She" in revelation 12
refers to wisdom.
As in the wisdom needed to create
the first and last church.
I searched every commentary I could find.
Both on line and in all my reference material
I have available to me in my office.
Not one commentary I read
ever mentions
"She"
(Mentioned 5x)
or "The Woman"
(Mentioned 8x)
or "Her"
(Mentioned 9x)
as being wisdom.
"She" was with God from the beginning.
Reference: Proverbs 8:22-31.
(The Hebrew noun for the word "wisdom" is feminine.
Being with god since the beginning
just might imply
the female aspect of divinity.)
NOW IS WHERE I DIFFER
FROM MOST.
What is being referred to in verses 1-2.
Is not the birth of the first church
but of the last.
(Matthew 20:16
So the last shall be first,
and the first last:
for many be called, but few chosen.
Applies here as well.
We see these kinds of time sequence jumps
throughout the book of Revelation
(As in the Book of Joel, others as well)
as God doesn't experience time like we do.
He is not subject to it like we are.
He exist outside of it and
experiences past present and future
all as one entity.
Difficult concept
but its the truth.
Also?
As mentioned above and
in the Noah to New Earth Series:
This only taking place every 3000 years?
Means the last time it happened
corresponds roughly
to the height of the bronze age
and the time before that
would have been 6000 years ago
which would correspond
to the beginning of civilization.
Looking at these verses
in this context give us:
The beginning of civilization(s).
The midpoint.
And the start of the end of this age
signified by
the coming birth
of Christ last church.
Revelation 12
Verse 3
3 And there appeared
another wonder in heaven;
and behold
a great red dragon,
having
seven heads
and ten horns,
and seven crowns upon his heads.
(Lucifer has already rebelled:
"there appeared
another wonder in heaven"
and become Satan
(Great Red Dragon)
The Seven Heads
(each with their own crowns)
Directly relates to
Revelation 17:10-12
(Reference:
Monday, August 11, 2025
Fulfillment of Revelation 17:8-11
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
and the ten horns
(Represents strength, Power, etc)
corresponds directly to
the unaccountable to anybody,
government or otherwise
"to big to fail"
"received no kingdom as yet"
"Tech Bros"
that we increasingly see
ruling our lives.
(How many phone numbers
you got memorized these days?)
"receive power as kings
one hour with the beast."
Tells us that
when we see this?
The time left of this age
is short indeed.
Revelation 12
Verse 4
4 And his tail drew
the third part of the stars of heaven,
and did cast them to the earth:
and the dragon
stood before the woman
which was ready to be delivered,
for to devour her child
as soon as it was born.
(This is the 1/3 of the angels
who rebelled with Lucifer,
their being
"cast to the earth"
is their being cast unto
the air there of:
Job 1:7
And the Lord said unto Satan,
Whence comest thou?
Then Satan answered the Lord,
and said,
From going to and fro in the earth,
and from walking up and down in it.
Angels
(of which Satan is a fallen one)
are all ministering spirits:
Hebrews 1:14:
"Are they not all ministering spirits
sent forth to minister
for those who will inherit salvation?"
(What Satan and his band of rebels
"ministers" is deception)
Being a spirit being
The manner by which Satan manages:
"going to and fro in the earth,
and from walking up and down in it."
is via the air
as he is the prince of it:
Ephesians 2:2
in which you used to live
when you followed
the ways of this world
and of
the ruler of
the kingdom of the air,
(Kinda puts our cell phones in perspective
if you ask me.)
the spirit
who is now at work
in those who are disobedient.
2 Thessalonians 2:7
"For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work"
Satan only comes to
the literal physical earth
after Christ leaves it:
(For good that is,
he is allowed special visitation privilege's
from time to time.
In the garden,
tempt Job, tempt Christ,
Peter, until his decreed destruction)
John 14:30
Hereafter I will not talk much with you:
for the prince of this world cometh,
and hath nothing in me.)
"and the dragon stood
before the woman
(Wisdom)
which was ready to be delivered,
for to devour her child
as soon as it was born."
(Both the first and the last church
that wisdom does bring forth.
Witness:
A roman military dictator
dictates policy via a church council
(Constantine, Council of Nicaea)
Theodosius I declares Christianity
the state religion of Rome.
(Just join the social club.
No work of regeneration
needed by the spirit etc.
Sound familiar?
It should.)
And the sethian view of Genesis 6
replaces the angel view
all before 400 AD.
So this verse refers to both churches
of the same,
the first and the last
as they were
and are and will be
under attack by Satan.)
Revelation 12
Verse 5
And she
(Wisdom)
brought forth a man child,
who was to rule all nations
with a rod of iron:
and her child
was caught up unto God,
and to his throne.
Psalm 2:9
"who was to rule all nations
with a rod of iron:"
You
(Gods Christ)
will break them with a rod of iron[a];
you will dash them to pieces like pottery.”
Psalm 2:9 Or will rule them with an iron scepter
(see Septuagint and Syriac)
The children of God:
Hebrews 1:14
"...minister for them
who shall be heirs of salvation?
Adopted to the royal family through Christ:
Ephesians 1:5
5 he[a] predestined us
for adoption to sonship[b]
through Jesus Christ,
in accordance with his pleasure and will—
Footnotes
Ephesians 1:5 Or sight in love. 5 He
Ephesians 1:5
The Greek word for adoption to sonship
is a legal term referring to
the full legal standing
of an adopted male heir
in Roman culture.
If you don't accept Christ?
Then you are not
a member of the royal family
and are not an heir of salvation
through the acceptance
of his redeeming supernatural blood
that redeems all who would but accept it.
1 Peter 2:9
But you are a chosen people,
a royal priesthood,
a holy nation,
God’s special possession,
that you may declare
the praises of him
who called you out of darkness
into his wonderful light.)
"and her child
(By the wisdom of God
shown past present and future,
making "heirs of salvation"
"was caught up unto God,
and to his throne."
Acts 1:9-12
Jesus Ascends to Heaven
9 Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, 11 who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”
(So much for the view of:
"He comes back metaphorically
he comes back in your heart,
therefore he has already come back etc."
And as he ascended into haven?
So shall the heirs of salvation:
1 Thessalonians 4:17
After that, we who are still alive and are left
will be caught up together with them
in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
And so we will be with the Lord forever.)
Revelation 12
Verse 6
And the woman
fled into the wilderness,
where she hath a place
prepared of God,
that they should feed her there
a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
(42 months on a 30 day a month calendar)
"fled into the wilderness"
That was the state of confusion
in the early church,
that wisdom should nourish her
(The Church)
through such confusion
And feed her there for 42 months
in a 360 day year calendar.
Mirrors the two witnesses ministry:
Revelation 11:3
And I will give power unto my two witnesses,
and they shall prophesy
a thousand two hundred and threescore days,
clothed in sackcloth.
And the first half of Daniels last "seven"
Daniel 9:27
He will confirm a covenant
with many for one ‘seven.’
(Years)
In the middle of the ‘seven’
(42 months)
he will put an end to sacrifice and offering.
And at the temple he will set up
an abomination that causes desolation,
until the end that is decreed
is poured out on him.)
NABRE footnote on Revelation 12:6:
God protects the persecuted church in the desert, the traditional Old Testament place of refuge for the afflicted, according to the typology of the Exodus; see note on Rev 11:2
.
Revelation 12
Verse 7
7 And there was war in heaven:
Michael and his angels
fought against the dragon;
and the dragon fought
and his angels,
8 And prevailed not;
neither was their place found
any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out,
that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan,
which deceiveth the whole world:
he was cast out into the earth,
and his angels were cast out with him.
(The first war whereby
Satan was thrown out of heaven
was in the abode of God
and his angels
and the four beast
and the elders
and Elijah and Enoch
if you need all of those details :-).
In the second of Satan's conflicts listed here?
Heaven is the atmosphere of the earth:
Ephesians 2:2
in which you used to live
when you followed
the ways of this world
and of
the ruler of
the kingdom of the air,
Satan cant come down
till Christ ascends
as God and Satan
can not be at the same place
at the same time.
Except in special circumstances:
In the garden,
tempt Job,
tempt Christ,
Peter,
Matthew 16:23
23 Jesus turned and said to Peter,
“Get behind me, Satan!
You are a stumbling block to me;
you do not have in mind
the concerns of God,
but merely human concerns.”
There are a minimum of three
"Heavens"
2 Corinthians 12:2-4
I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago
was caught up to the third heaven.
Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know—God knows. 3 And I know that this man—whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows— 4 was caught up to paradise and heard inexpressible things, things that no one is permitted to tell.
There is the sky
or atmosphere of the earth
which is the setting
for this particular conflict.
There are the "Heavens"
or space with stars
and other celestial wonders
And there is the abode of God
to which Paul refers to in the verse above.
Satan's first conflict alluded to in Revelation 12
was in the abode of God.
In this second conflict
(with Michael)
he is brought
to the actual physical earth.
Notice the difference between
Satans first and second conflicts
as the second one shows Satan's power
is only on the order of an arch angel
as it is an arch angel
who defeats him:
Vs 3-4
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven;
and behold a great red dragon,
having seven heads and ten horns,
and seven crowns upon his heads.
(Having attempting a coup against God in is abode:
Isaiah 14:12-15
How you have fallen from heaven,
morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!
13 You said in your heart,
“I will ascend to the heavens;
I will raise my throne
above the stars of God;
I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon.[a]
14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.”
15 But you are brought down to the realm of the dead,
to the depths of the pit.
Ezekiel 28:16
16 By the multitude of thy merchandise
they have filled the midst of thee with violence,
and thou hast sinned:
therefore I will cast thee as profane
out of the mountain of God:
and I will destroy thee,
O covering cherub,
from the midst of the stones of fire.
(Satan's not multidimensional lol.
He lost his access:
I will destroy thee,
O covering cherub,
from the midst
of the stones of fire.
Story for another day lol.
But in the first battle?
God kicks Satan out of his abode.
" therefore I will cast thee as profane
out of the mountain of God"
4 And his tail
drew the third part of the stars of heaven,
and did cast them to the earth:
He brought his rebels with him.
In the second conflict?
Satan has already been
kicked out of Heaven.
God and his Christ send
Satan's equivalent rank
arch angel Michael
to kick him out of
this "Heaven"
(The atmosphere of the earth)
him being:
"prince of
the kingdom of the air" etc.
7 And there was war in heaven:
Michael and his angels fought against the dragon;
and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not;
neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent,
called the Devil, and Satan,
which deceiveth the whole world:
he was cast out into the earth,
and his angels were cast out with him.)
Revelation 12
Verse 10
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven,
Now is come salvation,
and strength,
and the kingdom of our God,
and the power of his Christ:
for the accuser of our brethren is cast down,
which accused them
before our God day and night.
(A hymn of praise it has been called after Satan's defeat
at the hands of Michael the arch angel.)
Revelation 12
Verse 11
11 And they overcame him
by the blood of the Lamb,
and by the word of their testimony;
and they loved not their lives
unto the death.
Reference: Revelation 11:7
And when they shall have finished their testimony,
the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit
shall make war against them,
and shall overcome them, and kill them
(Why would we be willing to die
to show you this is all true
if we didnt love you.
Christ spoke truth
out of love
believe it or not?
So do we.)
That is the only way
Satan can be overcome:
by the blood of the Lamb,
(belief in its remission of sins)
and by the word
of their testimony
(How is your:
"word of your testimony"
doin these days?)
Revelation 12
Verse 12
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea!
for the devil is come down unto you,
having great wrath,
because he knoweth
that he hath but a short time.
(Angels are immortal.
They were made that way.
They don't die:
Luke 20:36
and they can no longer die;
for they are like the angels.
They are God’s children,
since they are children of the resurrection.
(People lol, not angels lol)
Even when thrown into the lake of fire:
Revelation 19:20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Nowhere does it say they die.
just that they will suffer there eternally.
Revelation 20:10
10 And the devil that deceived them
was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone,
where the beast and the false prophet are,
and shall be tormented
day and night for ever and ever.
So the point his,
Satan
as being Gods first lieutenant
the guy who has Gods back
(who else is gonna have the balls
to try and take over?
Haven't you ever watched any gangster movies?
Its always the first lieutenant
that thinks he should be in charge,
could do a better job etc.
Ezekiel 28:14
14 You were anointed
as a guardian cherub,
for so I ordained you.
You were on the holy mount of God;
you walked among the fiery stones.
So he knows Gods plan,
(Enough to know
to try and interrupt the bloodline
multiple times
that had to run
from Adam to Christ
Romans 5:19
19 For as by one man's disobedience
many were made sinners,
(Adam)
so by the obedience of one
shall many be made righteous.
(Christ,
god came in human form
to restore mans right relationship to him.
You cant do it.
You are not capable.
God himself had to come and restore it.)
Satan just doesn't know
enough of the specifics
to be able to thwart it.
God always stays
at least
one step ahead.
Satan knows when he was cast down to earth
his time in this realm is just about up.
"for the devil is come down unto you,
having great wrath,
because he knoweth
that he hath but a short time."
Look at your world.
You cant tell?
Satan has lost his shit?
Evil running unabated
everywhere?
Everyday worse than the next?
Okay...
Watever homie.
Burger King is open.
Have it your way.)
And when the dragon saw
that he was cast unto the earth,
he persecuted the woman
which brought forth
the man child.
(The wisdom that brought forth Christ church,
As Israel brought us Christ?
So does the body of believers
does bring forth his church.
And Satan stands
in defiant opposition
to all of
Gods wisdom.)
Revelation 12
Verse 13
And when the dragon saw
that he was cast unto the earth,
he persecuted
the woman
(Wisdom)
which brought forth the man child.
(John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.)
Mirrors verse four:
"the dragon stood before the woman
which was ready to be delivered,
for to devour her child
as soon as it was born.
Just as Satan was ready to devour the first church?
He will persecute the last one as well.
Revelation 12
Verse 14
And to the woman were given
two wings of a great eagle,
that she (Wisdom) might
fly into the wilderness,
into her place,
where she is nourished for a time,
and times, and half a time,
(42 months)
from the face of the serpent.
(The protection here
of the two witnesses
in establishing Christ last church
will be mirrored
in the protection of those
that accept it
from Gods wrath
in the second half
of the seven year tribulation period.
"The great tribulation".)
See also:
Wednesday,
April 25, 2018
(Over seven years ago.)
"Revelation 12:14
The woman was given
the two wings of a great eagle,
so that she might fly
(lil different this time :-)
to the place prepared for her
in the wilderness,
where she would be taken care of
for a time, times and half a time,
out of the serpent’s reach.
(It's how I knew
we were going to travel
after the ceremony)
(Theres your two wings of a great eagle
No matter how much honey
tries to keep it a secret from me :-).
Revelation 12:17
Then the dragon (the world, Satan)
was enraged at the woman
and went off to wage war
against the rest of her offspring
—those who keep God’s commands
and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.
Then?
It's on."
A few years back
I asked a friend of mine
who I knew couldn't lie to me :-).
"Tell me Im not leaving out of here on a plane.
Go ahead, tell me Im not."
They didnt say anything.
The smile on their face
said everything
that I already knew, years earlier.
Accept it or don't.
Don't really care.
Aint gonna change anything.)
Revelation 12
Verse 15
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth
"water as a flood after the woman,"
that he might cause her
to be carried away of the flood.
Water denotes righteousness,
but here it is coming out of the mouth of Satan
so Satans righteousness
is the opposite of true righteousness,
That being
The Flood of Word Vomit
that the world has been
and is being subjected to
in this current
"Post-Truth age"
we are currently experiencing.
Matthew 24:3-4
"...what shall be
the sign
of thy coming,
and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them,
Take heed
that no man deceive you.
The word vomit being:
Social Media
All forms of media
Generative AI
Pod Cast
Made up "science"
State sanctioned propaganda
Lies.
Deception.
Half truths.
Deceit.
Its a flood alright!
Just an unrelenting
daily torrential downpour.
Ref Daniel 9:26
and the end thereof
shall be with a flood,
and unto the end of the war
(Cosmic one of Good vs Evil.)
desolations are determined.
Neither Biblehub.com nor my Mendenhall reference bible
have those two verse cross referenced with each other,
I think its pretty obvious they should be.
Usually if verses are are not cross referenced by one of those two?
Then I don't find them referenced anywhere else either.
Revelation 12
Verse 16
16 And the earth helped the woman,
and the earth opened her mouth,
and swallowed up the flood
which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
(The World comes around to the truth.
3.2 billion character codes
(Genetic DNA)
just do not
"self assemble"
or in any way create themselves,
and even if they did?
How did they decide and manage
to get into the cell of everything
that has ever processed oxygen
to live the only place we know has life?
This is really simple stuff,
it is not hard to understand.
Also?
Avi Loeb called 3I/Atlas an asteroid
several times the other day.
The "Its a ordinary comet" types
have been silenced.
"The honeymoon of lies is over!"
A commentator honey likes
was saying the other day.
Revelation 12
Verse 17
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman,
References verse 4
"the dragon stood before the woman
which was ready to be delivered,
for to devour her child
as soon as it was born."
and
Verse 14
"he persecuted the woman
which brought forth the man child."
and went to make war with
the remnant of her seed,
which keep the commandments of God,
and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Mirrors
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity
between thee and the woman,
and between thy seed
and her seed;
it shall bruise thy head,
and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Which is the first prophecy
that promises
a future deliverer:
biblehub.com Study Genesis 3:15
"And I will put enmity between you and the woman"
"This phrase introduces the concept of enmity, or hostility, between the serpent and the woman. In the biblical context, the serpent represents Satan or evil, and the woman represents humanity, beginning with Eve. This enmity signifies the ongoing spiritual battle between good and evil. Historically, this reflects the struggle between humanity and sin, a theme that recurs throughout the Bible. Theologically, it sets the stage for the redemptive narrative that unfolds in Scripture."
And Bob Marley sang:
"As it was in the beginning?
So shall it be in the end!
Alright..."
And honey has stated numerous times:
"Its like we are a new kind
of Adam and Eve."
In the sense of starting things over.
I asked her
what she knows about
Genesis 3:15.
She didnt know
hardly anything about it.
Or how it relates to the Two Witnesses
establishing Christ New Church.
As it so obviously does.
So how was she saying multiple times over:
"Its like we are a new kind
of Adam and Eve."
??????????
p.s.
Satan rebelled in Heaven.
God kicked him out.
Angels are spirit beings
(They can come in human form
but they dont have to inhabit a body.
It is not their "essence" nor their "habiattion")
He was reduced to the air of of this earth.
"Prince of this earth"
This is how spirit beings get around.
"going to and fro"
(Job)
Michael then comes
and fights Satan
and throws him to the earth
where by he knows
his time to deceive
is running short.
Michael was in no way
associated with Satan's
original expulsion from Heaven.
Therefore the two are very distinct
and separate events.
That being the case?
Michaels fighting Satan
does not "allude to"
the original rebellion
in heaven where God
threw him out.
Simple.
Easy.
Where did it get complicated?
(Pretty happy I did all that
(by the power of the spirit)
and only needed a lil help
from the NABRE footnote on verse 6.
The rest just came to me as I did it.
Godspeed.
Journey well.
Love ya babe.
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