Gonna do it in a more conventional format lol.
Last time bout drove me crazy
changing gears mid-direction etc...
Anyway(s).
Its more like:
"Look at how many people since then
have gotten
so much more wrong
about what we are seeing now."
Revelation 11
1599 Geneva Bible
(Mine that honey got me
is from 1560, but to date
I have not seen a discrepancy
between the two versions.
Invaluable, just for the notes.
If anybody ever says to you:
"The Bible came over on the Mayflower"?
Tell em:
"Yeah I know it was the Geneva Bible
it had the apocrypha in it."
and see how they react.
:-).
Revelation 11
11 1 The temple is commanded to be measured.
3 The Lord stirred up two witnesses,
7 whom the beast murdereth,
9 and no man burieth them.
11 God raiseth them to life,
12 and calleth them up to heaven,
13 the wicked are terrified,
15 by the trumpet of the seventh Angel the resurrection,
18 and judgment is described.
1 [a]Then was given me a reed like unto a rod, and the Angel stood by, saying, Rise and [b]mete the Temple of God, and the Altar, and them that worship therein.
Footnotes:
a) Revelation 11:1 The authority of the intended revelation being declared, together with the necessity of that calling, which was particularly imposed upon Saint John: hereafter followeth the history of the estate of Christ’s Church both conflicting or warfaring, and overcoming in Christ. For both the true Church of Christ is said to fight against that which is falsely so called over the which Antichrist ruleth.
(Two witnesses
and the Antichrist oppose each other.
Bro Joes book of Revelation
bible study just nailed it.)
Christ Jesus overthrowing Antichrist by the spirit of his mouth: and Christ is said to overcome most gloriously until he shall slay the Antichrist by the appearance of his coming, as the Apostle excellently teacheth, 2 Thess. 2:8. So this history hath two parts. One of the state of the Church conflicting with temptations, until Chapter 16. The other of the state of the same Church obtaining victory, thence unto Chapter 20.
The first part
hath two members
most conveniently distributed
into their times,
(Guess who?)
whereof the first containeth an history of the Christian Church for 1260 years, what time the Gospel of Christ was as it were taken up from amongst men into heaven: the second containeth an history of the same Church unto the victory perfected.
(Thats what were setting up.)
And these two members are briefly, though distinctly propounded in this Chapter, but are both of them more at large discussed after in due order. For we understand the state of the Church conflicting out of Chapters 12 and 13 and of the same growing out of afflictions out of Chapters 14, 15 and 16. Neither did Saint John at unawares join together the history of these two times in this Chapter, because here is spoken of prophecy, which all confess to be one just and innumerable in the Church, and which Christ commanded to be continual. The history of the former time reacheth unto verse 14: the latter is set down in the rest of this Chapter.
In the former are showed these things:
the calling of the servants of God in 4 verses:
the conflicts which the faithful
must undergo in their calling,
for Christ and his Church,
thence unto verse 10,
and their resurrection
and receiving up into heaven
unto verse 14.
In the calling
of the servants of God
are mentioned
two things:
the begetting and setting of the Church in two verses,
and the education thereof in two verses.
The begetting of the Church is here commended unto S. John by sign and by speech: the sign is a measuring rod, and the speech a commandment to
measure the Temple of God,
that is,
to reduce the same
unto a new form:
because the Gentiles are already entered into the Temple of Jerusalem, and shall shortly defile and overthrow the same utterly.
b) Revelation 11:1 Either that of Jerusalem which was a figure of the Church of Christ, or that heavenly Example, whereof verse 19, but the first liketh me better and the things following do agree thereunto.
The sense therefore is,
Thou seest all things in God’s house
almost from the passion of Christ
to be disordered:
(Time to blow it up and start over.)
and that not only the city of Jerusalem but also the court of the Temple is trampled underfoot by the nations, and by profane men whether Jews or strangers:
and that only the Temple,
that is,
the body of the Temple,
with the Altar,
and a small company of good men
which truly worship God,
do now remain,
whom God doth sanctify
and confirm by his presence.
Measure therefore this, even this true Church, or rather the true type of the true Church, omitting the rest and so describe all things from me that the true Church of Christ may be as it were a very little center, and the Church of Antichrist as the circle of the center, every way in length and breadth compassing about the same, that by way of prophecy thou mayest so declare openly, that the state of the Temple of God and the faithful which worship him, that is, of the Church, is much more straight than the Church of Antichrist.
2 [c]But the [d]Court which is without the Temple [e]cast out, and mete it not: for it is given unto the [f]Gentiles, and the holy city shall they tread under foot, [g]two and forty Months.
c) Revelation 11:2 As if he should say, it belongeth nothing unto them to judge those which are without, 1 Cor. 5:12, which be innumerable: look unto those of the household only, or unto the house of the living God.
d) Revelation 11:2 He speaketh of the outward court, which was called the peoples court, because all men might come into that.
e) Revelation 11:2 That is counted to be cast out, which in measuring is refused as profane.
f) Revelation 11:2 To profane persons wicked and unbelievers, adversaries unto the Church.
g) Revelation 11:2 Or a thousand and two hundred and threescore days as is said in the next verse: that is a thousand two hundred and threescore years, a day for a year as often in Ezekiel and Daniel, which thing I noted before, 2:10. The beginning of these thousand two hundred and threescore years, we account from the passion of Christ, whereby (the partition wall being broken down) we were made of two one, Eph. 2:14. I say one flock under one Shepherd, John 10:16 and the end of these years precisely falleth into the Popedom of Boniface the eighth who a little before the end of the year of Christ a thousand two hundred ninety four, entered the Popedom of Rome, in the feast of S. Lucie (as Bergomensis saith) having put in prison his predecessor Coelestinus, whom by fraud, under color of oracle, he deceived: for which cause, that well said of him, Intravit ut vulpes, regnavit ut leo, mortuus est ut canis. That is, he entered like a fox, reigned like a lion, and died like a dog. For if from a thousand two hundred ninety four years thou shalt take the age of Christ which he lived on the earth, thou shalt find there remaineth 1260 years, which are mentioned in this place and many others.
3 But [h]I will give power unto my two witnesses and they shall [i]prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
h) Revelation 11:3 I had rather translate it illud than illam, the Temple than the city:
for God saith,
I will give that Temple,
and commit it unto
my two witnesses,
that is unto the Ministers of the word,
who are few indeed,
weak and contemptible:
but yet two, that is, of such a number as one of them may help another, and one confirm the testimony of another unto all men, that from the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be made good amongst men, 2 Cor. 13:1.
i) Revelation 11:3 They shall exercise their office enjoined by me by the space of those thousand two hundred and sixty years,
(Not down with the
"day to years"
equivalence that's being used BTW)
in the midst of afflictions though never so lamentable which is figuratively showed by the mourning garment.
4 These [j]are two olive trees, and two candlesticks, standing before the God of the earth.
j) Revelation 11:4 That is, the ordinary and perpetual instruments of spiritual grace, peace and light in my Church, which God by his only power preserved in this Temple.
See Zech. 4:3.
And there are two olive trees by it,
one on the right of the bowl and the other on its left.”
just like in
1 Kings 17:14-15
14 For this is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says:
‘The jar of flour will not be used up
and the jug of oil will not run dry
until the day the Lord sends rain on the land.’”
15 She went away and did as Elijah had told her.
So there was food every day
for Elijah and for the woman and her family.
5 [k]And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouths and devoureth their enemies: for if any man would hurt them, thus must he be killed.
k) Revelation 11:5
The power and efficacy of the holy ministry,
and which is truly Evangelical,
is declared
both in earth and in heaven,
protecting the administers thereof,
and destroying the enemies in this verse,
(If that's what you wanna mess with?
Well then you just go on right ahead then.)
"virtue indeed divine most mightily
showing itself forth in heaven, earth and the sea,
verse 6, as it described, 2 Cor. 10:4,
For the weapons of our warfare
are not of the flesh
but have divine power
to destroy strongholds.
(Scientism,
any other and all
easily disprovable
false believe systems.
One day they gonna get it honey.
This aint no joke.
"Dont turn the dial!
This is not a test!"
Springsteen said on the radio Broadcast
that got bootlegged back in the day.)
according to the promise of Christ, Mark 16:17. And this is the second place (as I said before) of the combats which the servants of God must needs undergo in the executing of their calling, and of the things that follow the same combats.
In the combats or conflicts
are these things:
to overcome,
in these two verses:
to be overcome and killed,
verse 7.
After the slaughter follow these things, that the carcasses of the godly are laid abroad, verse 8 being unburied, are made a matter of scorn together of cursing and bitter execrations, verse 9, and that therefore gratulations are publicly and privately made, verse 10.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophesying, and have power over waters to turn them into blood, and to smite the earth with all manner plagues, as often as they will.
(And they skipped over that one ?
Lol.
We have the power to give blessings.
We have the power to take blessings away.
If we give you a blessing
and you miss use it
for your own personal/worldly gain?
It will most assuredly
will turn around
and bite you right in the ass.)
7 [l]And when they have [m]finished their testimony, [n]the beast that cometh out of the bottomless pit, shall make war against them, and shall [o]overcome them, and kill them,
l) Revelation 11:7 That is, when they have spent those thousand two hundred and sixty years, (Days lol) mentioned verses 2 and 3,
in publishing their testimony
according to their office.
m) Revelation 11:7
When they have done their message.
n) Revelation 11:7
Of which after Rev. 13.
(Thats our False prophet and
personified Antichrist
both here and both identified.)
"That beast is the Roman Empire"
(Eastern part after the fall of the Western portion :-).
OTTOMANS
as we can now most assuredly see their resurgence.)
made long ago of civil, Ecclesiastical: the chief head whereof was then Boniface the eighth, as I said before: who lifted up himself in so great arrogancy (saith the author of Falsciculus temporum)
that he called himself
Lord of the whole world,
as well in temporal causes
as in spiritual:
(Thats what the antichrist will do:
Daniel 9:27
27And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.”
2 Thessalonians 2:4
4 Which is an adversary, and [a]exalteth himself against all that is called God, or that is worshipped: [b]so that he doth sit as God in the Temple of God, showing himself that he is God.)
There is an extant of that matter, written by the same Boniface most arrogantly, shall I say, or most wickedly, ca. unam sanctam, extra de majoritate & obedientia, and in the sixth of the Decretals (which is from the same author) many things are found of the same argument.
o) Revelation 11:7 He shall persecute most cruelly the holy men, and put them to death, and shall wound and pierce through with cursings both their names and writings. And that this was done to very many godly men by Boniface and others, the histories do declare, especially since the time that the odious and condemned name amongst the multitude first of the brethren Waldenses or Lugdunenses, then also of the Fratricels, was pretended, that good men might with more approbation be massacred.
8 And their corpses shall lie in the [p]streets of the great city, which [q]spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, [r]where our Lord also was crucified.
p) That is, openly at Rome: where at that time was a most great concourse of people, the year of Jubilee being then first ordained by Boniface unto the same end, in the year of Christ a thousand three hundred, example whereof is read, Rev. 1. Extra, de penitentys & remissionibus. So by one act he committed double injury against Christ, both abolishing his truth by the restoring of the type of the Jubilee, and triumphing over his members by most wicked superstitions. O religious heart! Now that we should understand the things of Rome, Saint John himself is the author,
both after
in the seventeenth Chapter
almost throughout,
and also
in the circumscription now
next following,
when he saith,
it is that great City
(as Rev. 17; 18 he calleth it)
and is spiritually termed
Sodom and Egypt:
that spiritually
(for that must here again
be repeated from before)
Christ was there crucified.
For the two first appellations
signify spiritual wickednesses:
the latter signifieth
the show and pretence of good,
that is,
of Christian
and sound religion.
(Reference:
Wednesday, March 5, 2025
The Last Stage of Apostate Christendom
Wednesday, March 12, 2025
The Fall of Babylon (Revelation 18))
Sodom signifieth most licentious impiety and injustice:
Egypt most cruel persecution of the people of God:
and Jerusalem signifieth
the most confident glorying of that city,
as it were in true religion,
being yet full of falsehood
and ungodliness.
(Like right now.)
"Now who is ignorant that these things do rather,
and more agree unto Rome than unto any other city?
(More like:
The Satanic World System
that emanated from there
to
"The World".)
"The commendations of the City of Rome for many years past are publicly notorious, which are not for me to gather. This only I will say that he long since did very well see what Rome is, who taking his leave thereof, used these verses:
Roma vale, vidi, Satis est vidisse: revertar,
Quumleno, meretrix, scurra, cinadus ero.
Now farewell Rome,
I have thee seen:
It was enough to see:
I will return when as I mean,
bawd, harlot knave to be.
q) Revelation 11:8
After a most secret
kind of meaning and understanding.
r) Revelation 11:8
Namely in his members,
as also he said unto
Saul, Acts 9:5.
9 And they of the people and kindreds, and tongues, and Gentiles, shall see their corpses [s]three days and an half, and shall not suffer their carcasses to be put in graves.
s) That is, for three years and a half for so many years Boniface lived after his Jubilee as Bergomens is witnesseth.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth, [t]shall rejoice over them and be glad, and shall send gifts one to another, for these two Prophets [u]vexed them that dwelt on the earth.
t) Revelation 11:10 So much the more shall they by this occasion exercise the jollity of their Jubilee.
U) Revelation 11:10 The gospel of Christ, in the affliction of the world, and the ministry thereof, the savor of death unto death to those that perish, 2 Cor. 2:16.
11 [v]But after [w]three days and an half, [x]the spirit of life coming from God, shall enter into them, and they [y]shall stand up upon their feet: and great fear shall come upon them which saw them.
v) Revelation 11:11
The third place
as noted I before,
is of the rising again of the Prophets from the dead,
and their carrying up into heaven.
For their resurrection is showed in this verse:
their calling and lifting up into heaven,
in the verse following.
w) Revelation 11:11 That is, what time God shall destroy that wicked Boniface. (Antichrist)
(My Personal belief is the Anti-Christ will gloat and eventually (3.5 days later) proclaim his victory over the two witnesses and at that moment declare that he is God, and God says not so fast, I alone own the life force and call his two heavenly witnesses home. And the process of his destruction starts. This is all exactly 3.5 years into the tribulation period. Detailed all of this in the Noah to New Earth series.)
x) Revelation 11:11 That is, the Prophets of God shall in a sort rise again, not the same in person (as they say) but in spirit, that is in the power and efficacy of their ministry, which S. John expressed before verses 5 and 6. And so the prophecy that is spoken of Elijah, is interpreted by the Angel to be understood of John the Baptist, Luke 1:17. For the same Boniface himself, who sought to kill and destroy them, was by the fire of God’s mouth (which the holy ministry showeth and exhibiteth) devoured and died miserably in prison, by the endeavor of Satra Columensis, and Nogaretus a french knight, whom Philip the fair King of France sent into Italy but with a small power.
y) Revelation 11:11 That is, the most grievous heat of afflictions and persecution shall stay for a while, for the great amaze that shall arise upon that sudden and unlooked for judgment of God.
(What an honor
and you just would not believe
how many times
we both see this number
11:11
for years on end now.
TRUTH.)
12 And they shall hear a great voice from heaven, saying unto them, [z]Come up hither: And they shall ascend up to heaven in a cloud, [aa]and their enemies shall see them.
z) Revelation 11:12 They were called by God into heaven and taken out of this malignant world, into the heavenly Church, which also lieth hidden here in the earth, to exercise their calling secretly: as of whom this wretched world was unworthy, Heb. 11:38. For the Church of the wicked is by comparison called the earth or the world: and the Church of the godly heaven. So in ancient time amongst the godly Israelites: so amongst the Jews in the days of Manasseh and other Kings,
when the earth refused
the heirs of heaven,
we read
that they lay hidden
as heaven in the earth.
(Been saying for years
we get Heaven on earth
for telling you hell is coming.)
aa) Revelation 11:12
Yet could they not hinder
the secret ones of the Lord
(Good luck.)
(as the Psalmist called them, Ps 83:4)
but they that went on forward
in his work.
13 [ab]And the same hour shall there be a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city shall fall, and in the earthquake shall be slain in number seven thousand: and the remnant were sore feared, [ac]and [ad]gave glory to God of heaven.
ab) Revelation 11:13 Bergomens is saith, in the year of our Lord 1301,
this year a blazing star
foretelling great calamity to come,
appeared in heaven,
(3I/ATLAS)
in which year upon the feast of S. Andrew, so great an earthquake arose, as never before: which also continuing, by times, for many days, overthrew many stately houses. This saith he of the year next following the Jubilee: which S. John so many ages before, expressed word for word.ac) Revelation 11:13
They were indeed broken
with present astonishment of mind,
but did not earnestly repent
as they ought to have done.
(Giving Glory and repenting
two different things)
ad) Revelation 11:13
Glorified God by confessing his name.
14 [ae]The second woe is past,
and behold, the third woe will come anon.
Revelation 11:14
He passeth unto the second history:
which is the second part of this Chapter.
S. John calleth these
the second and third woes,
having respect unto Rev. 9:12.
15 [af]And the seventh Angel blew the trumpet, and there were great voices in heaven, saying, [ag]The kingdoms of the world are our Lord’s, and his Christ’s, and he shall reign for evermore.
Revelation 11:15 Of whose sounding the trumpet Christ expressly foretold, Rev. 10:7, and this is the second part of this Chapter, containing a general history of the Christian Church, from the time of Boniface 8
unto the consummation of the victory
declared by voice from heaven.
In this history there are three branches:
a preparation by the sound of the Angels trumpet:
a narration by the voice of heavenly Angels and Elders:
and a confirmation by sign.
Revelation 11:15
The narration hath two parts:
an acclamation of the heavenly creatures,
in this verse,
and both
an adoration
by all the Elders,
verse 16,
and also a most ample thanksgiving,
verses 17, 18.
The sense of the acclamation is,
Now the Lord is entered on his kingdom,
and hath restored his Church,
in which most mightily recovered
from the profanation of the Gentiles,
(See why he don't care what you think?)
he may glorify himself.
Namely, that which the Lord ordained
when first he ordained his Church,
that the faith of the Saints
doth now behold as accomplished.
16 [ah]Then the four and twenty Elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces and worshipped God.
Revelation 11:16
As before, 7:11.
This giving of thanks is altogether of the same content
with the words going before.
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, Lord God Almighty, Which art, and which wast, and which art to come: for thou hast received thy great might, and hast obtained thy kingdom.
18 [ai]And the Gentiles were angry,
(Like now)
and thy wrath is come,
(In bits and pieces now.
In its totality
here in about 3.5 years.)
and the time of the dead,
that they should be judged,
and that thou shouldest give reward
unto thy servants the Prophets,
and to thy Saints,
and to them that fear thy Name,
to small and great,
and shouldest destroy them,
which destroy the earth.
(Revelation 11:18
A speech of the Hebrew language,
as much to say,
as Gentiles being angry
thine inflamed wrath
came upon them
and showed itself from heaven,
occasioned by their anger and fury.)
19 Then the Temple of God was [aj]opened in heaven, and there was seen in the Temple the Ark of his covenant: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and earthquake, and much hail.
Revelation 11:19
This is the confirmation
of the next prophecy before
going by signs exhibited in heaven,
and that of two sorts,
whereof some are visible,
as the passing away of the heaven,
the opening of the Temple,
the Ark of the covenant
appearing in the Temple,
and testifying the glorious presence of God,
and the lightning:
others apprehended by ear
and such dull senses
which bear witness
in heaven and in earth
to the truth of the judgments of God.
