"Now I know times are changing
And the people need rearranging
So now it's written here in song
Goodbye Babylon"
"The Fall of Babylon"
Where you see "Rome"
in the book of Revelation?
I see Babylon as listed above.
I have since I was 19 years old,
(41 years ago)
when I read this book:
That is longer ago than our VP JD Vance is old.
It's "Satanic World System"
more than "Rome"
and "Apostate Christendom"
in its entirety
(Yes even including US Evangelicals,
those who have married themselves to
a political party/ideology/leader anyway)
more so than it is just
the "Roman Catholic Church."
Rastafari = Power of the Trinity.
(Relax, he aint wearing a crown and he doesnt have a sword coming out of his mouth and he did fight evil when he was with us, so get over yourselves.)
A pretty good ways in the author states:
"the prophecy of destruction refers to ecclesiastical and political power symbolized in Babylon"
I would add economic power structure as well for my version of "Babylon"
ANY AND ALL
WORDLY POWER STRUCTURES
=
MY VERSION OF BABYLON.
Because there is really only one power structure and it is not of this earth.
The Fall of Babylon Announced
"And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies."
(More like:
transformed into one
from the power that comes down from heaven.
It has been established a few post back that angels are talked about of being "men", messengers to John the Baptist, messengers to Rahab and the seven founders of the seven churches in Revelation
"Having great power"
Revelation 2: 26-28
To the one who is victorious and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations— 27 that one ‘will rule them with an iron scepter and will dash them to pieces like pottery’[b]—just as I have received authority from my Father. 28 I will also give that one the morning star. 29 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
(There just aint no easy way to say it, that's us (honey and yours truly included) and that is now.
The two witnesses are the personification of the Holy Spirit in the end times.
Revelation 11:3
And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
2 Peter 2:10
10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh[a] and despise authority.
Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings;
Jude 8
In the very same way, on the strength of their dreams these ungodly people pollute their own bodies, reject authority and heap abuse on celestial beings.
(Those are not "angels' in the "created order of beings" sense, nor are they human. Read the chapters yourselves for the context and you will see what I am saying.
I have maintained for a while now those two verses refer to the two witnesses and now I have also learned to add the founders of the seven churches in the book of revelation, addressed as "angels" in the letters to those churches.
(Reference: Scofield Reference Bible (KJV) Angel, Summary)
They were given supernatural power to start the churches they did as those would become the churches that would represent the seven different periods of the church through the ages.
Simply put, nothing was ever going to stop them.
SAME HERE!
( I'll stand on this 100% till the day I die, If you dont wanna be my friend anymore? See ya! Dont wanna talk to me anymore? Adiós. Dont let the door hit ya etc. NOTHING stands in this way. Family, friends, house, vehicles, jobs, money, elderly relatives ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. We are on a mission and it will be accomplished.
Backup for making that claim:
1) Lifestyle (particularly when it was way more austere than it currently is.)
2) Revelations, as in tons of em. They speak for themselves so Im not gonna bother to list them.
3)Accurate predictions of events future and distant that I by my own faculties and reasoning could not have figured out. (Spiritual gift of prophecy, look it up.)
4) Scripture interpretations of some of the most difficult passages of scripture including but not limited to:
5) Inspired writings for well over a decade plus.
6) Scripture cross references previously undiscovered.
Satan knows.
Your government
(and other ones)
know.
Informed enlightened individuals know.
So I figure you should too.
"The opening phrase of chapter 18, “after these things,” marks a later revelation than that given in chapter 17.
(These are visions. John was on God's time
I think you can just throw that logic out the window personally.)
"John declares, “I saw another angel come down from heaven.” The phrase “another angel” makes clear that the angel of chapter 18 is a different angel from that of 17:1. Though the angel is described as “having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory,”
it is evident that this is a literal angel
(His opinion)
"and not a theophany, nor Christ in the form of an angel. The term “another” (Gr., allon) makes clear that this angel is the same in kind as the angel of 17:1.
(It just say another, it in no way implies its of the same type.)
"And the facts that the angel has great power and that the earth is lighted with the glory of the angel lead to the conclusion that
the angel is delegated
to do a great work on behalf of God.
(Amen amen amen honey says.)
"The announcement by the angel given in verses 2 and 3 declares that Babylon the great is fallen. The repetition of the verb “is fallen,” found in the aorist tense,
indicates a sudden event..."
(I GOT NEWS FOR YOU
It has fallen.
It was called as such when it happened.
By a messenger of the Lord
(Glorious Being, see Jude and 2nd Peter verses above)
It was sudden.
And it was just like
the very first time it fell
WITNESS:
Friday, February 7, 2025
Superintelligence
took over your country
without firing a shot.
I had no more wrote that
and I remembered this:
Antichrist from the Middle East?
"When Cyrus conquered Babylon,
he was able to brag to the world
that he did it without a battle!"
Turned Ancient Persia Into a Superpower
"In 539 B.C., Persian forces invaded the wealthy, fertile empire and routed the Babylonian army to seize the strategic city of Opis on the Tigris River. A week later, the Persian army reached the walls of Babylon, the ancient world's largest city,
and seized it without a fight.
It just seemed a weird outlier in that article, no footnotes or anything, just a lil weird factoid at the end of a paragraph, every time I read it I was like:
"Why is that there?
What is the point in that being mentioned?
Well now I know why
because Babylon
(World System)
just got toppled again
without so much as a battle.
What better way to position itself
to being able to take over the world
(Superintelligence)
than to take over
and purposely ruin this country first?)
"viewed as completed, though the context would indicate a future event. Seiss believes that the repetition of the phrase “is fallen” is intended to describe
two separate parts or stages of the fall,
answering to the two aspects in which Babylon is contemplated, referring first to Babylon in mystery,
as a system or spirit of false worship,"
(Like what? Political leaders? No way!
Sarcasm BTW)
"and second to Babylon as a city, in which this system
or spirit is finally embodied.287"
('Shitstem"
Marley called it :-)
"ANY AND ALL
WORDLY POWER STRUCTURES
=
MY VERSION OF BABYLON."
"Me say de Babylon system is the vampire,
falling empire,
Suckin' the blood of the sufferers, yeah!")
My personal belief
(made easier since we are currently living it)
is that Babylon will have fallen,
but it the earths inhabitants wont figure it out
until some time later,
(When it is destroyed)
thus marking the two parts of the event.)
"The announcement of chapter 18 coming so closely after the destruction of the harlot in chapter 17 has, however, raised a question as to whether the two are one and the same event."
"There are a number of reasons for believing that chapter 18 is a subsequent event, though described in similar terms. The woman who is destroyed in chapter 17 is made desolate, naked, and burned with fire by the beast with the ten horns. From this it may be concluded that the destruction of the harlot in chapter 17 is the fall of Babylon in its ecclesiastical or religious sense and that it probably occurs when the beast assumes the role of God at the beginning of the great tribulation. The world church is destroyed in favor of a world religion honoring the political dictator, the beast out of the sea of chapter 13.
(I disagree,
go figure right?
and is currently climaxing.
TO COZY UP
TO POLITICAL LEADERS
OF THIS WORLD!
Revelation 2:29
Whoever has ears,
let them hear
what the Spirit says
(Not me!)
to the churches.
He
(The Spirit)
Just spoke.
Did you hear it?
"a world religion honoring the political dictator"
Will be from midway through the tribulation till Christ return
(The Great Tribulation)
But
"the fall of Babylon in its ecclesiastical or religious sense"
Had started and its destruction is well under way
before Gods wrath
(Start of the Great Tribulation)
is ever poured out on this earth.)
(Agreed, see above about the church wedding itself to the worldly political leaders, adopting the doctrine of demons spoke of in 1 Timothy 4:1)
"In chapter 18, the context seems to indicate that Babylon here is viewed in its political and economic character rather than in its religious aspect. The term “Babylon” in Scripture is more than a reference to the false religious system which stemmed from the false religion of ancient Babylon. Out of ancient Babylon also came the political power represented in Nebuchadnezzar and fulfilled in the first world empire. In some sense this is continued in the commercial system which came from both the religious and the political Babylons. It seems that chapter 17 deals with the religious aspect and chapter 18 with the political and economic aspects of Babylon.
(I see em as a lil more mixed.
More later)
(Where you see "Rome"
in the book of Revelation?
I see Babylon as listed above.
I have since I was 19 years old,
(41 years ago)
"According to verse 9 the kings of the earth
as well as the merchants
will mourn the passing of the Babylon of chapter 18."
(It will be after the coming war,
They are gonna miss their business.)
"There is apparently no mourning connected with the destruction of the woman in chapter 17."
(Why in the world, or who but its adherents
would you mourn for apostate Christianity?)
"The destruction of Babylon in chapter 18 should be compared with the preceding announcement in 16:19 where the great city is divided and the cities of the Gentiles fall. This event comes late in the great tribulation, just prior to the second coming of Christ, in contrast to the destruction of the harlot of chapter 17 which seems to precede the great tribulation and paves the way for the worship of the beast (13:8).
(My personal view is that the FALL of Babylon
BOTH ecclesiastical and political and economic
happen well before the great tribulation.
The second half of Daniels 70 7's.
WHY?
Because God wants us to know whats coming that's why,
not when were knee deep in it.)
"The downfall of the city of Babylon in 18:2
is followed by its becoming the habitation of demons,
(Look at your world now.
Is it not already?
"the habitation of demons"
Look how crazy things have gotten
just since the inauguration on Jan. 20th
2 Thessalonians 2:7
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work:
only he who now letteth will let,
until he be taken out of the way.
It's happened.
I think its pretty obvious TBH.)
"the “hold” or “prison” of every evil spirit, and the “cage,” the same word in the Greek as “hold” (phylake„), of every unclean and hateful bird. The threefold description of the inhabitants of fallen Babylon is a reference to fallen angels in their various characteristics as demons and evil spirits, symbolized by the bird (cf. “birds,” Isa. 34:11-15; Matt. 13:32).
(Splitting hairs but it needs be understood.
"The demons" are the angels who rebelled with Satan in Heaven.
They are spirit beings and have no need of bodies.
"The evil spirits" are the spirits of the Nephilim,
born of women on this earth
and in need of an "abode" since they were born of one
and wont be judged until the judgement day
THEY ARE NOT EXACTLY THE SAME...
Both evil, both doomed, both led by Satan, but not the same thing as one has a Heavenly source and the other has an Earthly one. Enoch 15:10)
"This abandonment of destroyed
(Fallen, not destroyed yet)
Babylon to demons is a divine judgment stemming from the utter wickedness of its inhabitants described in verse 3. Babylon in her political character has had evil relationships with “all nations” described as “fornication.” In this, they have been led by the rulers, “the kings of the earth.” The resulting evil association has made the merchants of the earth rich. Just as the church had grown rich in proportion as it had been wicked, so the nations have likewise prospered, as they have abandoned God and sought to accumulate wealth of this world. The wealth originally collected through the influence of the apostate church is taken over by the political system in the great tribulation which with universal political power is able to exploit to the full its accumulation of wealth.
(Reference: Revelation 13:16-18)
A Call to Separation from Babylon
And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
(Reference the Woman symbolizing all wickedness in Zachariah 5.
'Come out of her,
my people,
that ye be not partakers of her sins,
and that
ye receive not of her plagues.
Here is where I see some of the mixing of:
Religious, Political and Economic
Babylon.
Christ True Church?
"Receives not her plagues.'
If the Apostate church stays married
to the world political leaders?
It will suffer the consequences.)
"As John contemplates the announcement of the fall of Babylon, he hears another voice from heaven addressed to the people of God instructing them to come out of Babylon.
(GET OUT OF IT!
"In a similar way the people of God were urged to leave Babylon in ancient days (Jer. 51:45). Seiss explains the phrase “come out of her,” citing Jeremiah 50:4-9 where the children of Israel are urged to “remove out of the midst of Babylon” (Jer. 50:8), and the command “Flee out of the midst of Babylon, and deliver every man his soul” (Jer. 51:6).288 Alford compares the command to come out of Babylon to the warning to Lot to leave Sodom (Gen. 19:15-22).289 The purpose of leaving Babylon is twofold: first, by separation from her they will not partake of her sin, and second,
they will not have her plagues
inflicted on them.
The reference to plagues refers to the vials of chapter 16, especially the seventh vial which falls upon Babylon itself (Revelation 16:17-21). This is further evidence that the event of chapter 18 is subsequent to the seventh vial and therefore in contrast to the destruction of the harlot in chapter 17.
(I see Babylon's fall as being separate from its destruction, probably the two phases spoke of earlier, people will recognize when the fall was, but only after it's destruction comes.)
"In verse 5 the sins of Babylon are declared to reach to the heavens with the result that God remembers, that is, judges her iniquities (cf. Jer. 51:9). The fact that her sins have reached (Gr., kollao„, literally “glued” or “welded together,” i.e., piled one on another as bricks in a building) unto heaven is an allusion to the tower of Babel which began the wicked career of ancient Babylon (Gen. 11:5-9). Though God permits the increment of sin, its ultimate divine judgment is inescapable."
("There aint no hiding place from the father of creation"
"The Indictment Against Babylon (18:6-8)
1Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliriously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her."
"In keeping with the enormity of her sin, the voice from heaven now calls on God to reward Babylon even as she rewarded the people of God. The verb (Gr., apodido„mi) means literally “to pay a debt” or “to give back that which is due.” It is the law of retribution sometimes called lex talionis. Divine justice exacts the “eye for an eye” and the “tooth for a tooth.”
"The normal law of retribution, however, is here doubled in recognition of the enormity of the sin of Babylon. Accordingly the voice demands, “Double unto her double according to her works.” In keeping with this principle, the cup of iniquity which Babylon filled is now to be filled twice with the measure of her judgment. There is no mercy for the utter apostasy found in Babylon in all her phases of operation. The verb (Gr., kerannymi) translated “fill” is literally “mix” or “mingle” as in the preparation of a drink. The same verb is used in 14:10 in connection with the wine of the wrath of God."
"The same law of retribution is indicated in verse 7 where the standard of her judgment is compared to her luxurious living in which she was given to self-glorification. The expression “lived deliciously” (Gr., estre„-niasen) means “to be wanton” or “to revel” and comes from a word meaning “hardheaded” or “strong.” Her willful sin against God is now to be rewarded with torment and sorrow. The “torment” (Gr., basanismon) refers to trial by torture with its resultant mental anguish and grief (Gr., penthos). Her wishful thinking in which she said, “I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow” is going to be rewarded by sudden destruction from the Lord which according to verse 8 will come in one day in the form of plagues, death, mourning, and famine, resulting in her utter destruction by fire. Her vaunted strength is as nothing compared to the power of God."
(Just look what coved did to her.
Harbinger of whats comin.
"We can beat any army in the world,
but how do we fight a plague?"
Egyptian General
in the original Ten commandments.)
"Like the church at Laodicea, her wealth has brought a sense of false security (3:17)."
(Oh the apostate Church like us now?
Interesting.)
"Her claim to not being a widow has only the faulty foundation of her illicit love affairs with the kings of the earth (17:2). The fact that her judgment comes in one day, emphasized in the Greek by being placed first in the sentence, is reminiscent of the fall of Babylon in Daniel 5, which fell in the same hour that the finger traced its condemning words upon the wall. Before morning, the ancient power of Babylon has been destroyed. In a similar way, the rich fool of Luke 12:16-20 lost his barns and his soul in one night. When it is time for God’s judgment, it descends with unwavering directness."
"The Lament of the Kings of the Earth
And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning, Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come."
(In other reference to "One Hour"
Matthew 26:40, Mark 14:37, Revelation 17:12
Here we find the disciples asleep
as well as the Ten Kings without a kingdom
sharing their power with the Beast.
My take is?
The church, much like the disciples
is ASLEEP
at a most critical juncture.)
"The destruction of Babylon in its political and economic aspects described in the preceding verses is now the subject of a lament by the kings of the earth. These kings are a wider designation than the ten kings of 17:12,16, who participated in the destruction of the harlot."
(Agreed)
"Here there is lament over the destruction of that which remained. The time is the second coming of Christ at the end of the great tribulation. The very kings who participated in the wickedness and wealth of Babylon now mourn her passing, symbolized in the burning of the capital city. The lament of the kings over Babylon is most emphatic in the Greek by the repetition of the article: literally “the city the great, Babylon the city the mighty.” It was great in its extent of power and accomplishment and mighty in the strength of its rule. In spite of its greatness and strength (Gr., megale„ and ischyra), it nevertheless falls in one hour."
(Its a vision, you are on God's turf. Gods time. It will be of a short duration, but I wouldn't necessarily take it quite so literal. Again, think about how quick Covid ground things to a halt.)
"Some believe that ancient Babylon is to be rebuilt as the capital of the world empire in the great tribulation period and that Babylon in this chapter refers to ancient Babylon rather than to Rome. According to Isaiah 13:19-22, Babylon was to be completely destroyed and not inhabited. This seems also the teaching of Jeremiah 51:24-26, 61-64. It is argued that ancient Babylon as a city was not destroyed for hundreds of years after the fall of the empire and therefore these prophecies have not been literally fulfilled."
"The destruction of Babylon according to Jeremiah 51:8 was to be sudden. This is confirmed by Revelation 18:17-19. As far as the physical city of Babylon was concerned, this was not true of ancient Babylon as it continued for many years after its political downfall.
(Supports my view of the fall of it actually being one part
the destruction being another.
We will continue limping on as well.
For about seven years :-).
Hey? It fell without a shot already.
I'd say that matches up as well.)
"Further, it is pointed out that the prophecy of Isaiah 13:6, &-11, which formed the context of Isaiah 13:19-22, indicates that the destruction of Babylon would be in the day of the Lord.290 Hence, it is held that Babylon will be rebuilt and then destroyed by Christ at His second coming."
(Not if its allegorical in nature it needn't be.)
"Others identify Babylon as Rome,"
(Satanic world system,
ANY wordily power structure.
)
the seat of the apostate church"
(Lord knows has to be somebody besides
American Evangelicals
marrying themselves to the False Prophet
and giving themselves a magic carpet ride
to nowhere led by nobody knows who
and coming back to nobody knows where
or how or when or led by who again.
PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE etc
ITS ALL OF CHRISTENDOM THATS APOSTATE.
IT WILL ALL BE DONE AWAY WITH AND STARTED OVER.
I have about had my fill of reading multiple accounts of people pointing their finger at Rome
(Lord knows they got issues)
but then thinking that marrying themselves to the body politic and giving themselves a free ride out of the tribulation that God will see you through.
I mean seriously.
ENOUGH!
"COME OUT OF HER!"
"as described by the seven mountains of 17:9 and also the political city as elsewhere described.291 It is possible that Rome might be the ecclesiastical capital and rebuilt Babylon the political and commercial capital. It is also conceivable that Rome might be the capital in the first half of the last seven years and Babylon in the second half—in the world empire phase. Haldeman holds that Babylon will be rebuilt. He states, “Rome will be the political, Babylon the commercial, capital of Antichrist’s kingdom.”292 On the other hand Hoste observes, “I do not think there is any necessity that Babylon should be rebuilt, for another city has, as we see in this chapter, taken her place.”293
(So now Rome is political?
I thought it was ecclesiastical.
Where you see Rome etc...)
"Those who deny that Babylon will be rebuilt do so on the principle that the prophecy of destruction refers to ecclesiastical and political power symbolized in Babylon but not embodied in an actual city." The city of Babylon politically therefore is now destroyed historically. The power and religious character of Babylon are destroyed at the second coming. The ultimate decision depends upon the judgment of the expositor, but in many respects it is simpler to postulate a rebuilt Babylon as fulfilling literally the Old Testament prophecies as well as that embodied in this chapter.
(That was at the latest 23 years ago.
Where is its rebuilding?
Were just not seeing it, therefore:
"Those who deny that Babylon will be rebuilt do so on the principle that
the prophecy of destruction refers to ecclesiastical and political power symbolized in Babylon
but not embodied in an actual city."
That Is exactly 100%
where I pitch my tent so to speak.
As well as:
"The ultimate decision
depends upon the judgment of the expositor..."
Where you see "Rome" in the book of Revelation?
I see Babylon as listed above.
Have since I was 19 years old.
It's "Satanic World System" more than "Rome"
Just like people cant wrap their heads around Rome
simply being a metaphor for the Satanic World System power structures (All of them)?
I just cant wrap my head around why
people cant replace "Rome"
with the Babylon described in the picture above.
Might have something to do with a book I read when I was 19 :-)
Maybe :-).
"Regardless of location,
the burning of the city is
a symbol of the fall of its political and economic might,"
(US right now.
China just said were ready for
"any" type of war with you)
"and the kings of the earth marvel at the destruction
of the seemingly infinite power of the capital of the world empire."
(US right now
Iran said, yeah no thx
to "negotiations" on its nuclear program.
"Do whatever you want" their president just told Trump.)
"The twofold lament involved in the words bewail and lament indicates to vocally lament (bewail) and to beat the breast (lament, Gr., kopsontai). Their vocal lament, “Alas, alas” (Gr., ouai) is probably better translated “Woe, woe” because it is much more emphatic than the English “alas.” The word is mournful in both its sound and meaning and is reminiscent of the hopeless wailing of those who mourn the passing of loved ones. Their mourning is also characterized by fear lest they have the same judgment which has overcome the city,"
("Aren't you scared?"
"Of what?
God's promises coming true?)
"...and for this reason they stand afar off.
How sad is the hour of judgment
when it is too late for mercy."
The Lament of the Merchants of the Earth (Revelation 18:11-19)
18:11-19 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyme wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all. The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, And saying, Alas, alas that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city! And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness!
for in one hour
is she made desolate."
(Somebody should do a sermon series on "one hour' as it relates to end-time prophecies :-)
"The economic character of the city of Babylon is indicated in the fact that the merchants also weep and mourn for her. Their grief is occasioned by the loss of their trade with the city. The rich and varied character of the merchandise is itemized in verses 12 and 13, beginning with precious stones and costly metals characteristic of wealth and luxury. Next in order are the fine fabrics used in their clothing, composed of fine linen and silk in the luxurious colors of purple and scarlet. Precious stones, versatile metals, and fine fabrics which constituted the wealth of the ancient world are here itemized as the treasure of Babylon in the hour of her destruction. The luxury of their apparel is matched by the rich furnishings of their homes including articles of thyine and other precious wood, ivory, brass, iron, and marble. Thyine was a fragrant wood corresponding to cypress and was used for expensive furniture in Roman times along with other precious materials. The use of vessels made of ivory, brass, iron, and marble as well as precious wood was symbolic of the luxury and wealth of Babylon before its destruction.
(Reference:
Tuesday, March 31, 2020
(Start of Covid timeframe)
Monday, October 4, 2021
In verse 13 expensive perfumes and spices are mentioned, such as cinnamon, unspecified odors (Gr., amo„mon, from an odiferous shrub of which an ointment was made, translated “spice” in the A.R.V.), and ointments (Gr., myron, an unguent made of an aromatic juice). Some manuscripts add “incense” between “odours” and “ointments” (Gr., thymiamata). The last luxury item to be listed is frankincense.
(Interesting the last one listed was the gift given to Christ by the magi
as a symbol meaning he would be the high priest.)
"All of these could be afforded only by the wealthy. Next is mentioned the abundance of foods, such as wine, oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle, and sheep. The word beasts (Gr., kte„ne„), used as a general word for property in the form of animals, probably refers to cattle. Verse 13 closes with reference to the means of transportation employed by the wealthy, namely, horses and chariots, and finally,
the slaves they possessed in body and soul.
(Folks?
if you cant just pick up and go tomorrow?
Then you have become
an economic slave to the Shitstem.)
"The combined picture is one of complete abandonment to the wealth of this world and total disregard of God who gave it.
(When EVERYTHING in our world
is focused on wealth and riches and fame and possessions and continuous economic growth and indebtedness?
How can you think?
We are not there yet?)
"Verse 14 tells of the sweeping removal of all these precious possessions described as “the fruits that thy soul lusted after” and “all things which were dainty and goodly.” The inhabitants of Babylon addressed as “thou” are no longer able to find these things."
(Remember Covid Shortages?
(See the references listed above)
Harbinger of things to come.
Covid was Woe #2.
(a warning of impending doom.)
And just wait till the war starts in earnest with regard to;
“thou are no longer able to find these things".)
"Like the kings of the earth who stood afar off and watched the ascending smoke of the burning of Babylon, so the merchants also shall fear to go near the city. Weeping and wailing, that is, crying out loud and mourning, they also repeat their sad “alas” (Gr., ouai). All the great riches of the city, described again as fine linen, purple and scarlet, gold, precious stones, and pearls, are brought to nothing.
(Because its what they are!
"Dont gain the world and loose your soul
Wisdom is better than silver and gold."
Listened to it
for Over 40 years now.
"Those in ships,
apparently standing off
from shore on the sea,
(Monday, October 4, 2021
Backlog of Super freighters
waiting to get into the Port of LA. during Covid.
Where are all the ships on the seas going to go
once all the missiles start flying?
Hum?
Harbinger.
Warning of impending disaster.
Exactly what Covid was.
The second woe.)
"witness the scene and join in the mourning as they see the smoke of the city ascending. They cry saying, “What city is like unto this great city!” In expression of their grief, they cast dust on their heads and join other merchants in weeping and wailing. For the third time in the passage, the mourning cry “Ouai ouai” is heard. Their mourning is not for the city, however, but because their wealth derived from trade in shipping is now at an end. Christ warned against coveting the wealth of this world when He said,
Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also
(Matt. 6:19-21).
"In contrast to the transitory wealth and glory of this world, which are here consumed by a great judgment from God, are the true riches of faith, devotion, and service for God laid up in heaven beyond the destructive hands of man and protected by the righteous power of God. The destruction of Babylon also ends the nefarious control of the souls of men mentioned last in the list of commodities in verse 13. No longer can ancient Babylon control the world religiously, politically, or economically."
"Rejoicing in Heaven over the Fall of Babylon (Revelation 18:20)
18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets;
for God hath avenged you on her.
"In contrast to the grief overtaking worldly rulers and merchants by the destruction of Babylon, those in heaven, who are mentioned later in 19:1, are called upon to rejoice at the righteous judgment of God. The address is to “the saints and the apostles and the prophets” rather than to the “holy apostles,” with the article repeated each time. The expression “hath avenged” is literally “God hath judged your judgment on them,” that is, “God hath inflicted your judgment on them,” thus bringing to bear upon Babylon the righteous recompense for her martyrdom of the saints. It is another case where the righteous ultimately triumph as victory follows suffering.
The Utter Destruction of Babylon
18:21-24 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying. Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
"John in his vision now sees a “mighty angel” (cf. 5:2; 10:1) throw a stone like a great millstone into the sea, portraying the violent downfall of the great city. A similar instance is found in Jeremiah 51:61-64. In this passage in Jeremiah, Seraiah, a prince who accompanied Zedekiah into Babylon, is instructed after reading the book of Jeremiah to bind a stone to it and cast it into the midst of the Euphrates with the words “Thus shall Babylon sink, and shall not rise from the evil that I will bring upon her: and they shall be weary.” In the similar instance portrayed in Revelation, the millstone is cast into the sea instead of the Euphrates. The symbolism is the same. It represents the destruction of the great city, which like a stone cast into the sea will be found no more. The ultimate end of Babylon in all its forms will be accomplished by God’s judgment at the end of the great tribulation. Babylon will be found “no more at all” (cf. vv. 14, 22-23). The expression occurs seven times with minor variations."
"The angel now enlarges on the cessation of activity in this great city. That which characterized its life and featured its luxurious existence, such as the voices of harpers and musicians, of pipers and trumpeters, who added to the fanfare and public display of both the religious and political Babylon, is now silent. Similarly, the fine craftsmen who produced the ultimate in luxurious goods are no longer to be found. The sound of the millstone grinding out the grain is silent. In like manner, the light of the candle is now out, the city cold and dead, and no longer do its streets ring with the voices of the bridegroom and the bride. Of the nine different features mentioned, seven are described as “the voice” (Gr., pho„ne„, literally “sound”) of harpers, musicians, pipers, trumpeters, millstone (“sound” same as “voice” in Greek), bridegroom, and bride. The very silence of the city is a testimony to God’s devastating judgment."
(You might want to stock up on some books, pencils, paper, pens, board games' oil lamps, oil, etc.)
"Verses 23 and 24 provide another brief summary of the extent of Babylon’s sins and greatness. Her merchants were “great men of the earth.” All nations were deceived by Babylon’s sorceries. Here too was the martyred blood of prophets and saints. The greatness that was the secret of her rise in power and influence makes her downfall all the more impressive. Babylon is declared to be guilty of the blood of prophets and saints, reference in part to the martyrs of the great tribulation."
"There is an obvious parallel in the rise and fall of Babylon in its varied forms in Scripture."
(So why are we to take it all so literally with actual rebuilding etc then?)
'As introduced in Genesis 11:1-9, Babylon, historically symbolized by the tower reaching to heaven, proposed to maintain the union of the world through a common worship and a common tongue. God defeated this purpose by confusing the language and scattering the people. Babylon, ecclesiastically symbolized by the woman in Revelation 17, proposes a common worship and a common religion through uniting in a world church. This is destroyed by the beast in Revelation 17:16 who thus fulfills the will of God (Rev. 17:17).
("...a common worship and a common religion through uniting in a world church.
Apostate Christendom in all its varied forms,
Married to it's (Babylon's) worldly political leaders, practicing the doctrines of demons etc.)
'Babylon, politically symbolized by the great city of Revelation 18, attempts to achieve its domination of the world by a world common market and a world government.
(Integrated Supply lines still stretch the world over, so we can place a check by "a world common market" The world government is coming, you guessed it, after the nuclear war Rev 13...)
"These are destroyed by Christ at His second coming (Rev. 19:11-21).
(So how far off you thinking really?)
"The triumph of God is therefore witnessed historically in the scattering of the people and the unfinished tower of Genesis 11 and prophetically in the destruction of the world church by the killing of die harlot of Revelation 17 and in the destruction of the city of Revelation 18. With the graphic description of the fall of Babylon contained in chapters 17 and 18, the way is cleared for the presentation of the major theme of the book of Revelation, the second coming of Christ and the establishment of His glorious kingdom.
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