Saturday, September 6, 2025

Revelation 8:8-9 cross references, commentary, application to 3I/ATLAS, Babylon's destruction, Impacts on world trade etc...

 

Revelation 8:8-9

(biblehub.com)

8Then the second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned to blood, 9a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.…

Berean standard bible.

(Keep in mind the angels are in order, "the second angel" not necessarily the trumpets, except the seventh one which will bring God's FULL wrath upon the earth, Revelation 16, vial or bowl judgements.)


"This could be the first trumpet

Might as well be the last

many more will have to suffer

many more will have to die

dont ask me why..."

RNM Natural Mystic



Biblehub.com cross-references 

Revelation 8:8 with:

Exodus 7:20-21

Moses and Aaron did just as the LORD had commanded; in the presence of Pharaoh and his officials, Aaron raised the staff and struck the water of the Nile, and all the water was turned to blood. / The fish in the Nile died, and the river smelled so bad that the Egyptians could not drink its water. And there was blood throughout the land of Egypt.


Jeremiah 51:25

“Behold, I am against you, O destroying mountain, you who devastate the whole earth, declares the LORD. I will stretch out My hand against you; I will roll you over the cliffs and turn you into a charred mountain.


Joel 2:30-31

I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and columns of smoke. / The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and awesome Day of the LORD.


Zechariah 13:9

This third I will bring through the fire; I will refine them like silver and test them like gold. They will call on My name, and I will answer them. I will say, ‘They are My people,’ and they will say, ‘The LORD is our God.’”


Psalm 46:2-3

Therefore we will not fear, though the earth is transformed and the mountains are toppled into the depths of the seas, / though their waters roar and foam and the mountains quake in the surge. Selah


Isaiah 2:12-16

For the Day of the LORD of Hosts will come against all the proud and lofty, against all that is exalted—it will be humbled— / against all the cedars of Lebanon, lofty and lifted up, against all the oaks of Bashan, / against all the tall mountains, against all the high hills, ...


Isaiah 13:10

For the stars of heaven and their constellations will not give their light. The rising sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light.


Isaiah 34:9-10

Edom’s streams will be turned to tar, and her soil to sulfur; her land will become a blazing pitch. / It will not be quenched—day or night. Its smoke will ascend forever. From generation to generation it will lie desolate; no one will ever again pass through it.


Ezekiel 38:22

I will execute judgment upon him with plague and bloodshed. I will pour out torrents of rain, hailstones, fire, and sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him.


Daniel 2:34-35

As you watched, a stone was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay, and crushed them. / Then the iron, clay, bronze, silver, and gold were shattered and became like chaff on the threshing floor in summer. The wind carried them away, and not a trace of them could be found. But the stone that had struck the statue became a great mountain and filled the whole earth.


Matthew 24:29

Immediately after the tribulation of those days: ‘The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’


Luke 21:25-26

There will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth dismay among the nations, bewildered by the roaring of the sea and the surging of the waves. / Men will faint from fear and anxiety over what is coming upon the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.


Acts 2:19-20

I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke. / The sun will be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the coming of the great and glorious Day of the Lord.


2 Peter 3:10

But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and its works will be laid bare.


Revelation 6:12-14

And I watched as the Lamb opened the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black like sackcloth of goat hair, and the whole moon turned blood red, / and the stars of the sky fell to the earth like unripe figs dropping from a tree shaken by a great wind. / The sky receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved from its place.


The Mendenhall Reference Bible 

cross references Revelation 8:8 with:


"and as it were a great mountian 

burning with fire was cast down into the sea


Jeremiah 51:25

Behold, I am against thee, O destroying mountain, saith the Lord, which destroyest all the earth: and I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and roll thee down from the rocks, and will make thee a burnt mountain


Amos 4:7

Furthermore, I withheld the rain from you

While there were still three months until harvest.

Then I would send rain on one city,

But on another city I would not send rain;

One part would be rained on,

While the part not rained on would dry up.


"and a third part of the sea"

Revelation 16:3

 The second angel poured out his bowl into the sea, and it became blood like that of a dead man; and every living [a]thing in the sea died.


"became blood"

Ezekiel 14:19

Or if I were to send a plague against that country and pour out My wrath on it in blood to eliminate man and animal from it,


and it also translates:

"mountain"

into

"volcano"

(And digging through commentaries 

plenty of others have as well.)


WHAT ME AND HONEY HAVE FOUND TO BE 

ASTONISHINGLY  ABSENT 

FROM ANY SOURCE WE CAN FIND 

IS A CROSS REFERENCE 

WITH REVELATION 8:8 

TO REVELATION 8:21


 And a mighty angel 

took up a stone like a great millstone, 

and cast it into the sea, 

saying, 

Thus with violence 

shall that great city Babylon 

be thrown down, 

and shall be found 

no more at all.


How in the world 

were those two verses 

not cross-referenced?


(Just started digging into this last night BTW.

I hadn't read one commentary 

on Revelation 8:8 

as I just didnt see the need to.

8:8 

kinda gives it away 

that it is about 

a new beginning in my/our book.)


The verses me and honey 

by our own volition

(always added by the spirit)

 saw 

as being in play in this situation were:


Isaiah 13:13

Therefore 

I will shake the heavens, 

and the earth shall remove 

out of her place, 

(Orbital perturbations)

in the wrath 

of the Lord of hosts, 

(Partial wrath, full is coming later)

and in the day of his fierce anger.


Haggai 2:6

For thus saith the Lord of hosts; 

Yet once

it is a little while

and I will shake the heavens, 

and the earth, 

and the sea, 

and the dry land;


Revelation 18:9-10

Grief over Babylon


9 “And the kings (rulers) of the earth

who committed acts of sexual immorality 

(They cheated on God with the world)

and lived luxuriously with her, 


(Before and after: Trump’s extreme goldening of the Oval Office


(It's not just him, 
that is but an example.)


will weep and mourn over her when they see the smoke of her burning, 10 standing at a distance because of the fear of her torment, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the strong city! For in one hour your judgment has come.’


Revelation 18:11-20

 “And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn over her, because no one buys their cargo any more— 12 cargo of gold, silver, precious stones, and pearls; fine linen, purple, silk, and scarlet; every kind of citron wood, every article of ivory, and every article made from very valuable wood, bronze, iron, and marble; 13 cinnamon, spice, incense, perfume, frankincense, wine, olive oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle, sheep, and cargo of horses, carriages, slaves, and human lives. 14 The fruit you long for has left you, and all things that were luxurious and splendid have passed away from you and people will no longer find them. 15 The merchants of these things, who became rich from her, will stand at a distance because of the fear of her torment, weeping and mourning, 16 saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, she who was clothed in fine linen and purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold, precious [o]stones, and pearls; 17 for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!’ And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and all who make their living by the sea, stood at a distance, 18 and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What city is like the great city?’ 19 And they threw dust on their heads and were crying out, weeping and mourning, saying, ‘Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had ships at sea became rich from her prosperity, for in one hour she has been laid waste!’ 

20 Rejoice over her, 

O heaven, and apostles and prophets

because God has pronounced judgment 

for you against her.”


(Catch that last verse?

"Rejoice"

"because God has pronounced judgment 

for you against her."

And it aint everybody 

that's gonna be rejoicing

just yet,

just those in the know so to speak:)

"Rejoice over her, 

O heaven

and apostles 

and prophets"


And 

Revelation 18:21

And a mighty angel 

took up a stone like a great millstone, 

and cast it into the sea, saying, 

Thus with violence 

shall that great city Babylon 

be thrown down, 

and shall be found no more at all.


Revelation 21:1

21 Then I saw a new heaven 

and a new earth; 

for the first heaven 

and the first earth passed away, 

and 

there is no longer 

any sea.


Okay?

So thats what we see

as being cross-referenced here

by our own volition.

(aided by the spirit)


Neither one of us ever looked up any commentary's till last night when I wanted to find out if Revelation 8:8 was cross-referenced with Revelation 18:21, and to my shock it wasnt.


Goes like this okay?

Throw a 30 mile wide dense ass piece of space rock in the sea?

And its gonna screw some things up,

Severely

Marine life , ecosystems, coastal living, ports, fisheries

trade, ships in the ports when tsunamis hits, ships on the seas etc.


Covid?

(second woe,

"a warning of impending judgement")

And all the super container cargo ships

 primarily off the West coast 

stacked up for days on end

waiting to get into port?


Aint gonna even come close 

to what's coming.


Lets dig further.


You may hate it, 

but me and honey 

love seeing God's promises 

come true.


Study Bible

Then the second angel sounded his trumpet

This phrase introduces the second of the seven trumpet judgments in the Book of Revelation. The sounding of the trumpet signifies a divine announcement or a call to action, often associated with judgment or significant events in biblical literature. Trumpets were used in ancient Israel for various purposes, including signaling war, gathering people, and announcing festivals (Numbers 10:1-10). The trumpet judgments follow the seal judgments and precede the bowl judgments, indicating a progression of divine wrath during the end times.


(I don't see the judgements as necessarily

being so chronological

Seal, Trumpet, Vial (bowl)

except for the seventh trumpet:

"Keep in mind the angels are in order, "the second angel" not necessarily the trumpets, except the seventh one which will bring God's FULL wrath upon the earth, (Revelation 15, 16), vial or bowl judgements.


But there is most definitely 

"a progression of divine wrath 

during the end times."

3I/ATLAS marks such a progression.




(Its as wide as it is long BTW.

Thats something they arent telling you

Sunday, August 31, 2025

Reference: Comets dont:)


And something like a great mountain burning with fire

The imagery of a "great mountain burning with fire" suggests a catastrophic event, possibly a volcanic eruption or a massive meteor impact. Mountains in biblical symbolism often represent kingdoms or large, immovable entities (Isaiah 2:2, Daniel 2:35). The burning aspect indicates destruction and judgment, reminiscent of God's judgment on Sodom and Gomorrah with fire and brimstone (Genesis 19:24). This imagery may also echo the plagues of Egypt, where natural elements were used as instruments of divine judgment (Exodus 9:23-24).


Was thrown into the sea

The act of being 

"thrown into the sea" 

signifies a sudden and forceful event


(See above where:

The Kings, merchants, shipmasters, 

sailors and passengers

all said:

"In one hour"


One thing about living in the times we are

were seeing how explicitly things are applied

no need to sit around and wonder 

about what how who when etc.

We are witnessing things

 come into fruition.)


emphasizing the power and authority 

of God over creation." 


The Release of Dust from the Surface of 3I/ATLAS 

Does Not Imply That it is a Comet

Avi Loeb Medium 8/12/25


"But as argued in my first paper about it, 

the reservoir of rocky material in interstellar space

 can only deliver a 20-kilometer rock once per 10,000 years

even in the unlikely case 

that all this interstellar material 

is packed in 20-kilometer rocks.")


The sea in biblical times was often seen as a symbol of chaos and danger (Psalm 46:2-3, Isaiah 57:20). In the context of Revelation, the sea could represent the nations or peoples of the world (Revelation 17:15). 

This event may symbolize 

the upheaval and judgment 

upon the world's systems and powers.

(You can count on it!)


A third of the sea turned to blood

This phrase indicates a partial judgment, 

as only a third of the sea is affected. 

(The full measure of Gods wrath will be poured out in the second half of the Tribulation period.

Ref Revelation 15, 16)


"The turning of water into blood is reminiscent of the first plague in Egypt (Exodus 7:20-21), symbolizing death and divine retribution. Blood in the sea would result in the death of marine life and disrupt trade and travel, leading to economic and ecological disaster. The fraction "a third" is significant in Revelation, often indicating a limited but severe judgment, allowing for repentance and warning of greater judgments to come."

(Might wanna brace yourselves,

cause we aint in charge of nothin'.)


Teaching Points

Divine Judgment

The imagery of the burning mountain emphasizes the seriousness of God's judgment. 

(He's taking off the kid gloves 

somebody was sayin a lil bit ago)

Believers are reminded of 

the reality of divine justice 

and the importance of living 

in accordance with God's will.


Symbolism of the Sea

The sea turning to blood signifies widespread impact and chaos. Christians are called to be steadfast in faith amidst worldly turmoil and to trust in God's ultimate plan.


Call to Repentance

The catastrophic events serve as a warning and a call to repentance. Believers should examine their lives and turn away from sin, seeking God's mercy and grace.


Hope in God's Sovereignty

Despite the terrifying imagery, believers can find hope in God's sovereignty. He is in control, and His purposes will ultimately lead to the establishment of His eternal kingdom.


(Why so many just can not 

wrap their heads around this 

is just beyond me.)


Excepts from selected commentaries:


"The mountain was the emblem, in Jeremiah's prophecy, of the strong consolidated power and institutions of Babylon. Not only must the loftiness of man be brought low, but the mountains which they made so strong for themselves."


 "Your power will not only expose the pretentious religionisms of the world, as My word has shown the worthlessness of this tree, but you will overthrow also the long established usages and evil customs of nations which corrupt the world."


"The falling mountain carries evil even in its fall, the sea becomes blood, the ships are destroyed. The fall of a great nation--a Babylon-- (Satanic World System) is always fraught with unavoidable miseries to the world and its nations."


"The force of the vision is that certain gigantic forms of evil will be overthrown, but the overthrow will be accompanied with the development of new evils: the advance is made, but the step forward unveils the subtle force of evil. Every corrupt institution is destroyed with the risk of the evil elements diffusing themselves elsewhere..."


(NOW comes nuclear war etc:

"Hey what do we have to loose Bob?

Might as well get busy with it now."

"I agree Jim, everybody else is gonna 

we might as well too."


As well as 666, 

the new economic system.


"In case 3I/ATLAS represents a spacecraft (Supernatural entity)... we should worry about its intent. 

At its closest approach to the Sun on October 29, 2025, 

the stock market might crash if fears from an 

alien invasion (Supernatural entity) will skyrocket. 

In that scenario, citizens would lose their trust 

in governments to protect them."

Security Risks from Interstellar Objects

Avi Loeb Medium 07/18/25


And AI's run amuck,

Antichrist coming to power etc.)


 "Jeremiah 2:25 contains a somewhat similar description, with, however, a different meaning. There the mountain is the heathen power; here it is the instrument of the punishment of the ungodly world."


"The vision may be said generally to typify great trouble and commotion."


"The whole is a vision, and not subject to natural laws. The meaning is evident. As before, a large part, but not the largest, is signified and this time the judgment is directed against another portion of creation."


(The Release of Dust from the Surface of 3I/ATLAS 

Does Not Imply That it is a Comet

Avi Loeb Medium 8/12/25

"But as argued in my first paper about it, the reservoir of rocky material in interstellar space can only deliver a 20-kilometer rock once per 10,000 years, even in the unlikely case that all this interstellar material is packed in 20-kilometer rocks."


"Wordsworth and Elliott both think that the destruction of Roman ships is foretold; The former pointing to the ships as the instruments of commerce and luxury"

(Neoliberalism is often associated with a set of economic liberalization policies, including privatization, deregulation, depoliticisation, consumer choice, labor market flexibilization, economic globalization, free trade, monetarism, austerity, and reductions in government spending.

Think NAFTA and afterwards.

And see above about:

Kings, Merchants, Sailors etc all mourning 

the wicked world systems sudden demise) 


"Those who place the fulfilment of the vision in time subsequent to the sealing of Revelation 7. fail to see that the trumpets do not follow the seals in chronological order, but that both are being fulfilled side by side in the same epoch; viz. that of the existence of man."


(First time I have ever seen that anywhere, nice to know.)


I mean

how much more 

do you really 

need to know?


"Drew?

You are just so cra cra crazy...

It is a comet

and it will not 

come near us."


Well lets just review a few things:


1) It was presumed to be an asteroid 

BEFORE

it was confirmed by NASA

as an interstellar visitor.


NASA confirms that mysterious object shooting through the solar system 

is an 'interstellar visitor' — and it has a new name

07/03/25


"News of the extrasolar entity, initially dubbed A11pl3Z, broke on Tuesday (July 1), when NASA and the International Astronomical Union (IAU) both listed it as a confirmed object."


"On Wednesday (July 2), NASA released a statement confirming that A11pl3Z is indeed an interstellar object and will not remain in the solar system for long. The researchers also shared the object's new official name, 3I/ATLAS, and revealed that it is most likely a comet, upending previous assumptions that it was an asteroid."


2) 3I/ATLAS pass-by of Mars 

was reduced from 

a distance of .2 AU to .02 AU 

without hardly any fanfare:


(Almost like they were trying to hide it 

from you or something.)


Thursday, September 4, 2025

Hows your soul doing these days? 3I/ATLAS will now pass within .02 AU of Mars, not .2 AU as originally stated. Hum...Interesting.


In addition:

"a small orbit correction by 3I/ATLAS 

could shrink this MOID 

(The Minimum Orbit Intersection Distance)

of Mars to zero."

has been subjected.


"In addition, an orbit correction by 10–15 kilometers per second during the month of September 2025, could shrink the closest approach distance of 3I/ATLAS from Mars to zero,



SOMEHOW

It is going to have a catastrophic impact on earth

just like near misses with Mars 

have in the past.


"By comparing Hebrew historical, 

Chinese astronomical, 

and Latin ecclesiastical material, 

we have established 

that it was the planet Mars which caused 

a series of catastrophes 

in the eighth 

and seventh centuries 

before this era."


p.306 

Online PDF version


Available here:

Worlds in Collision







Godspeed everybody.

Journey well.


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