Daniel 12, The Time of the End - Pastor Chuck Missler
I didnt go looking for this BTW.
I hadnt opened up regular YouTube in months.
I did the other day and this was the first video
at the top of the screen.
PRELUDE
Joel 2:28-29
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
Matthew Henry commentary
on Joel 2:28-29
"The effect of this blessing:
They shall prophesy;
they shall receive
new discoveries of divine things,
and that not for their own use only,
but for the benefit of the church.
They shall interpret scripture,
and speak of things secret,
distant, and future,
which by the utmost sagacities of reason,
and their natural powers,
they could not have any insight into nor foresight of."
Revelation 11:3
And I will give power unto my two witnesses,
and they shall prophesy
a thousand two hundred and threescore days,
clothed in sackcloth.
(Echo's Joel 2:28-29
'your sons and your daughters shall prophesy')
Sunday, April 15, 2018
Commentary Revelation 11.
"In America, the Shakers identified
the (two) witnesses as
the male and female aspects of God,"
Tuesday, August 13, 2019
will interpret scripture differently
than before.
They will seek out answers
on their own
they will not be content
to be spoon fed what to believe."
Missler Daniel 12
The time of the end.
"It is essential that we stand back from our presumptions and prejudices and listen carefully to what the Biblical text is telling us. We are living in exciting times, but we need to be diligent in our study of God’s Word. The only certain barrier to truth is the presumption that we already have it."
~
Chuck Missler 2009
He should have taken his own advice
here on Daniel 12
"The Time of The End."
You'll see.
If Avi Loeb "sees aliens wherever he looks'
Dr. Missler has a tendency to see
"Israel" as a geopolitical nation
wherever he looks
as opposed to a body of true believers.
It is all about
Jerusalem and Gods Real Estate
on this earth
NOT THE PEOPLE
that it was entrusted to.
That came with responsibilities
that simply haven't been met.
(See Numbers 15
particularly vs 30-31)
Mark 11:17
Then Jesus began to teach them, and He declared, “ Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all the nations’?
Also
before we even get started
lets not forget:
Mathew 21:33-43
33 Hear another parable:
There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
34 And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
36 Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves,
This is the heir; come,
let us kill him,
and let us seize on his inheritance.
39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
41 They say unto him,
He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
and Mathew 21:43
43 Therefore say I unto you,
The kingdom of God
shall be taken from you,
and given to a nation
bringing forth the fruits thereof.
That above was addressed specifically to
the Chief priest and Elders of the people.
PLUS:
1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation,
a royal priesthood, an holy nation,
a peculiar people;
that ye should shew forth the praises of him
who hath called you out of darkness
into his marvelous light;
Also, let us not forget
the scribes and the Pharisees
Christ is addressing in the following passages
are the forerunners of most of modern day
Rabbinic Judaism:
Matthew 23:13-33
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
18 And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
20 Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
22 And he that shall swear by heaven,
sweareth by the throne of God,
and by him that sitteth thereon.
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that
ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers,
how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
And those?
Were the forerunners
on modern day rabbinical Judaism.
And if you go all:
Romans 11:1-2
11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,
People say:
'Well God does not take back his gifts..."
Agreed, but
It is not a gift
if you dont accept it.
And legacy, heritage, family,
tribe, nation or any other association etc ?
Has got absolutely nothing
to do anything:
And the Jewish people MOSTLY rejected
the biggest gift from God ever.
The sacrifice of the Messiah
(Which renders a new temple pointless BTW.)
Matthew 3:9
And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
(John the Baptist aka JTB.)
"Well God still holds a special place
for the Jewish people."
Yeah...I know
the inner court of the heavenly temple
for the direct descendants of Abraham
the free gift of salvation through Christ
not those that didn't or wont.
Kind of how God works.
he kinda has anaffinity for:
"The least, the lonely, the left out the lowly" etc...
NOW TO THE INTRO LOL.
That was just the conclusion of the prelude lol.
"And at that time..."
(Absolutely 100% essential
to understanding
what is being talked about here
"The Great Tribulation"
The second half
(3.5 years)
of the last of Daniels 70/7's
the culmination of this age.
(The seven year tribulation period.
Which is looking more and more like
we just started with all the AI
craziness going on)
"shall Michael stand up,
the great prince
which standeth for
the children of thy people:
and there shall be a time of trouble,
such as never was
since there was a nation
even to that same time:
and at that time
thy people
shall be delivered,
every one that shall be found
written in the book.
"And at that time...
every one that shall be found
written in the book."
If you can not
ACCURATELY
wrap your head around
who those components
of verse 1
are refering to?
1) thy people
shall be delivered,
2)every one that shall be found
written in the book.
You might as well just skip
the rest of the chapter.
Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
Pretty much nails it:
"Every one that shall be found written in the book;
in the book of life, as Jacchiades;
in the book of God's eternal purposes
and decrees, concerning
the salvation of
his people
by Christ;
for it is according to these
that God saves and calls men,
whether Jews or Gentiles,
2 Timothy 1:9.
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus
before the world began,
I just want to be 100% abundantly clear
about whose book was mentioned in
Daniel 12:1
thy people
shall be delivered,
every one that shall be
found written in the book.
(And no not the movie lol)
Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him,
whose names are not written
in the book of life
of the Lamb slain
from the foundation of the world.
Revelation 17:8
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
And there shall in no wise enter into it
any thing that defileth,
neither whatsoever worketh abomination,
or maketh a lie:
but they which are written
in the Lamb's book of life.
Revelation 20:15
And whosoever was not found
written in the book of life
was cast into the lake of fire.
And not one of those verses is listed as cross-referenced
on Bible Hub.com or in my Mendenhall Reference Bible.
Nor will Dr. Missler bring them up.
"It is essential that we stand back from our presumptions and prejudices and listen carefully to what the Biblical text is telling us. We are living in exciting times, but we need to be diligent in our study of God’s Word. The only certain barrier to truth is the presumption that we already have it."
~
Chuck Missler 2009
(They are mentioned on the study bible page of Biblehub.com
in regard to this verse, way down...
but not listed up front where they belong.
Its kind of a big issue yo.
Philippians 4:3
Yes, and I ask you, my true yokefellow, to help these women who have labored with me for the gospel, along with Clement and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the Book of Life.
The only Israel here
is the body of true believers left
PERIOD.
There are not two books (or more)
with the names of the redeemed
written in them.
There is only One
and it belongs to Christ.
Not many Jews believe in Christ
and most of those are forgotten about
Black Africans shown and mentioned above.
Israel’s future recognition of Christ
will involve more than seeing historical facts;
the nation will acknowledge
that the rejected and crucified Jesus
is the promised King."
Once again.
Only when they see this:
"and they will look on Me,
the One they have pierced."
Matthew 24:30
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
And by that time?
I just dont think
there are that many
left of anything.
Jew, or gentile.
Matthew 24:22
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
And plenty of
"since the foundations of the world"
type of phrases associated with
"The lambs Book of Life"
in the aforementioned verses.
Ezekiel 10:1-2,6
(Vision of Gods Throne)
Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubims there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone, as the appearance of the likeness of a throne.
2 And he spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub, and fill thine hand with coals of fire from between the cherubims, and scatter them over the city. And he went in in my sight.
6 And it came to pass, that when he had commanded the man clothed with linen, saying, Take fire from between the wheels, from between the cherubims; then he went in, and stood beside the wheels.
So even outside of:
Christ was there
at the beginning.
That is not an angel.
It's above those.
That is Gods right hand man.
Also Consider:
Just like Michael will be in
The Great Tribulation
for Gods true believers?
We've seen this before:
Exodus 23:20-21
Behold, I am sending an angel before you to protect you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared. / Pay attention to him and listen to his voice; do not defy him, for he will not forgive rebellion, since My Name is in him
Revelation 3:10
Because you have kept My command to persevere, I will also keep you from the hour of testing that is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
Anyways lol...
Just wanted to get a few things straight
before venturing in.
I love Dr. Missler,
just not so much the
Dispensationalist outlook
that shines through just way
to brightly here.
The bible is written is such a way
that if you pull out just one thread that you don't like?
Or just don't wanna acknowledge
The entirety of it just unravels, proving
there's no way man could have pulled it off by himself
(1400 years, three continents, three languages 40 authors etc.)
It is the only thing in our world
from outside of this time-space continuum.
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"we'll be finishing let's assume we get through verse one we'll be finishing Daniel
chapter 12 short little chapter and yet uh touches on many interesting topics
we've had quite a tour of the Book of Daniel the first six chapters of course
were very colorful readable fun Narrative of his colorful
career deported as a teenager and then treated
to these incredible experiences both from a spiritual point of view and
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also just in terms of of actually having not only survived
but been prominent dominant in two major world Empires one
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of the most unusual careers in history
as we look at Daniel of course one of the things that we need to keep in our minds and and and um when you get a chance to reread the book it's interesting just to reread the book not from a prophecy point of view that's what we mostly get so you can't help but get all caught up in that but
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but to reread the book and just dwell on
the example that Daniel has given us
from the time he was a teenager where he
dared to be true to what God
had called him to and and and didn't yield in a sense
to the the world Empire that was um that he found himself
(RESONATES MORE THAN A LIL)
and God honored that all the way through uh through the grammatic visions that were given to Nebuchadnezzar his unusual relationship personally with that uh prominent leader even to the point that he cared for him when he was suffering his um medical problems the fiery furnace the all of that exciting times but always it's interesting to to uh the first six chapters of just the narrative but then we got to the uh next major section of the book the last half of the book first six are narrative
the last six chapters
The Book of Daniel are pro prophetic
and chapter 7 especially tied
to Daniel 2 gives us a perspective of today as we watch the emergence of the European Superstrate we've talked a lot
(Since petered out)
about that and then we saw
the detailed career of Alexander the Great
and his rise over the Persian Empire in in
chapter 8 but as those prophecies unfold we all o saw
Echoes overtones hints cryptic
allusions to the time of the end
and one of the difficulties we face
all through the later chapters is Discerning what's
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historical in the sense of prophecies have been fulfilled very clearly in history and which ones actually transcend the immediate history that was
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in front of them but that brought us to course
the most incredible Prophecy
in the Bible
(Agreed)
right we spent plenty of time
on that that led us to section the third section if you will
as many people might outline it
the last three chapters are Unit 10 11 and 12
very unusual chapters in fact chapter 10
is but a Prelude to the chap to the to this climactic
Vision where the messenger is actually uh
engaged in spiritual combat for a period of three weeks to get through and
bring this message to Daniel the message being
chapters 11 and 12 and last time we indeed dealt with
chapter 11 the bulk of which is uh was prophetic then
but fulfilled since
the last number of verses of course uh
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seconds transcending even that history
as we get into chapter 12
I think it's useful for us to keep our our eye on the fact that
sum it's a unit Daniel chap 12 is read
and I
emphasize that because it's easy to lose sight
of the fact that it's Jewish we need to recognize Daniel's
book is quite tightly organized
when you go through a book like Jeremiah
it's very confusing because it's all out of order one of the one of the things you
do when you study book of Jeremiah you need to build yourself a little chart to figure out which one comes where because it's not necessarily in chronological order some of the other books have the
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Daniel however is pretty straightforward if you recognize there's six history and then six visions and the visions interweave the history but the thing you also need
to recognize the Book of Daniel let me just remind this
by way of Review
Book of Daniel was written in Hebrew up
until the third verse of chapter 2
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and then it shifts to Aramaic
which was the Gentile language
of the Babylonian Empire of the world
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world and it stays in Aramaic
until the end of chapter
so chapters 3 4 4 five 6 7 are written
to the in in a gentile language they
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relate to the Gentile kingdoms
the scope of the vision chapter 2
given Nebuchadnezzar uh uh
interpreted by Daniel
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was an overview of all Gentile history
and the subsequent the chapters
intervening between it and seven really
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deal with
as the Bible calls it
this period of Gentile Dominion
on the planet earth
but but at the end of chapter 7
after that climactic Vision
about the Gentile Empires Book of Daniel shifted
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back to Hebrew chapter 8 was um obviously
Alexander and Persia but it was the way it impacted Israel and of course dealt with the coming the world leaders that
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would uh um impact Israel when we got to Daniel 9
Gabriel gives Daniel this incredible vision of the Messiah but again if you recall we emphasized at the time the scope of the vision 9:24 70 7s are determined upon
thy people
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and the Holy City Jerusalem
it's important as we try
to understand what these prophecies are saying
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not to lose the Horizon
that they expressly paint namely Israel
(Body of true believers)
and of course in
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chapter 11 we had this whole Chronicle of the successive Kings
and the Ptolemaic dynasties after Alexander dies
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as the Empire breaks up in its four pieces
the Seleucid Empire and Syria
and what have you what we what they call
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King of the North and the Ptolemaic dynasties to the South
Egypt and these two struggling back and forth back
and forth over the years always of course
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tramping through Israel recorded there
for several reasons
one as it impacts Israel's history
but most of all
to build a the background to
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who ultimately desecrates the temple
and all of that but again the the focus this perspective the the the
uh emphasis is as it impacts Israel now as that all happens we now will uh
I might mention something else it's sort of by way of review
in the verses from from from uh chap 11:36
which we took last time of course
up to the end of the chapter
and we could sort of add to that
the first few verses of chapter 12 we'll get
into we have introduced to us
by way of review again
a world leader
not just a king that's local but
a world leader was introduced
a world religion
was introduced
(Apostate Christianity,
False religions
Materialism, Consumerism
Idolatry (including political) Greed
Just an overall rejection of God
"Anything but that"
seems to be
our current one world religion)
"and a world war is
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involved and also
a time of tribulation
that is very unique in the scripture
been lots of times of troubles in the past
but there's a very specific time of trouble
that is highlighted both here
and thus quoted in that context
by our Lord Jesus Christ
but the good news and that's what
it focuses on is
the Deliverance of that people
at the time of the end
and a resurrection
a judgment
and a reward for
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the righteous
seven major elements okay we
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finish at verse 45
last time I believe chapter 11 speaking of
this final world leader
he shall plant his
Tabernacles of his Palace
between the seas
and the Glorious mountain."
(Long and important detour time:
"The effect of this blessing:
They shall prophesy;
they shall receive
new discoveries of divine things,
and that not for their own use only,
but for the benefit of the church.
They shall interpret scripture,
and speak of things secret,
distant, and future,
which by the utmost sagacities of reason,
and their natural powers,
they could not have any insight into nor foresight of."
will interpret scripture differently
than before.
They will seek out answers on their own
they will not be content
to be spoon fed what to believe."
Nobody is really sure where that is
Almost all commentators have that as being
thought to be Mount Zion in Jerusalem.
Go here if you want to read a bunch of them
Remember now this is where the Anti-Christ
"pitches his tent".
"In other words,
does the viewpoint...
demonstrate a proper method
of interpreting Scripture?...
Does it fit the facts of history?
"right yet he shall come to his end and None Shall
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help him remember the chapter breaks
are man's division so as you read your Bible
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don't make too much of the chapter divisions
very often a chapter benefits really by the verse that precede the last verse of the previous chapter and vice versa often a first verse like in chapter 11 the first verse read belongs back in chapter 10 in this case just just feel of continuity verse 12
(And I 100% completely concur with that.
I have long seen Revelation 17 and 18
as one continuous chapter.
As it seems like parts of each
are intermingled within each other.
I just dont get hung up on
"Chapter and verse" so much.)
"remember the chapter breaks
are man's division"
(But they were clearly guided by the spirit
and I got numerous examples of that
but no need here for these purposes.
The 1560 Geneva bible was the first to have chapter and verse:
"Verse 1
And at that time
shall Michael stand up
the great prince who standeth for the children
of thy people and there
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shall be a time of trouble such was never
such as never was since there was
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a nation even to that same time
at that time thy people
shall be delivered
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everyone that shall be found
written in the book
now
we could spend all evening on CH
one verse one because there's a
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there are a lot of issues here
(100% agree
Thats why my prelude/intro were so long lol...)
"now one of the first things it says
at that time
the Hebrew actually implies
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a during a continuation during that time but uh it's
brething hairs at that time
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that is when this leader
that has occupied our attention
in the previous dozen verses
it's at that time Michael shall
stand up.
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now this guy Michael it's one of my favorite guys
oh one other thing
at that time
appears three times just in this verse
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so the timeliness is important
and it's emphasizing the the immediacy of it
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Michael is one of the well he's often called
"The" Archangel
and many commentators presume
but I I believe it's a presumption that he's
"the" Archangel
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there may be more than one
(There are innumerable angels
so why wouldnt there be
more than one Arch Angel?)
"it's a rank certainly
and very very senior but he's the Archangel
who has a specific job in fact both Michael and
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Gabriel have very specific job descriptions their functional assignments
seem to be very definitive in the scripture because every time we
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see Gabriel he's always on a Messianic Vision
a mission um in Daniel 9 he's relating to
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Daniel the details the exact day when Jesus is to present himself
riding a donkey into Jerusalem and came up to the very
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day well we see him of course with Mary it's the annunciation
every time you see Gabriel he's on a Messianic
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and Michael likewise shows up
four times in the Bible and he's always
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a military commander on behalf of Israel
and here is one of those places where it's even mentioned that
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way at that time shall Michael
stand up the great prince
who standeth for
the children of thy people
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what could be clearer
(Its The Great Tribulation time
so what couldn't be any clearer is
ISRAEL
here is
the body of true believers:
Mathew 21:43
Therefore say I unto you,
The kingdom of God
shall be taken from you,
and given to a nation
bringing forth the fruits thereof)
"now the question is
who is he battling he's always
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fighting who is he fighting with
who does he fight with
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it's interesting that very often we find ourselves
thinking in terms of Christ
and Satan in fact there's a very famous book that's useful for many reasons but has an unfortunate Title by Kurt cook it's called between Christ and Satan
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it's an interesting book but
I've always been bothered by the title because it's misleading
there's nothing equal
or even adversarial
in any contest sense between
Christ and Satan
that's like like somebody with a BB gun facing a
you know a army tank or something I mean there's
just're they're not comparable
Angels even Satan are created
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Satan is a created being very powerful
very attractive we find his description in
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Ezekiel 38 excuse me Ezekiel 28
dramatic to the extreme the sum of
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all Beauty that's a strong statement
expert in music the angel of Light Lucifer you our
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conceptions one of the things that probably deserves some comment
it's we probably don't don't realize how much of
our horizon or perspective is colored by English literature
because there were some
really great minds and great writers that contributed to our body of
literature Dante, Milton and Goethe
and these guys are brilliant they
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also came from a Biblical background
Milton shares with Shakespeare I guess
the they believe they had the largest English
vocabularies that ever existed they the influence is enormous
and the writings are if you're in literature very very worth
reading in many ways
except they also embody some substantial misconceptions
and this concept that Satan or the devil somehow
rules this fiery furnace place called hell is a
concept from English literature
not the scripture
hell was created as a place to put them
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in ultimately and also hell as we generally think of it
to be more precise
is a temporary location
not a permanent place at all or Hades..."
("The abode of the dead
two separate chambers
Righteous and Wicked.
(see Luke 16:19-31)
They can not communicate with each other
nor can they communicate with us
nor can we communicate with them.
So anything Dario Amondei
(CEO of Anthropic)
says he's "Summoning"
(See: Friday, September 11, 2026
Revelation 9:21: Neither repented they
of their murders, nor of their sorceries)
can only be one of two entities,
Demons, came with Satan in the rebellion
Or the Evil spirts born here.
(Nephilim and their offspring.
One of those entity's needs a home and the other doesn't
so I don't think its all that hard to figure
what Dario Amondei
and Altman (grimoire) and others
have been summoned.)
"the permanent place is Gehenna and they're
opposites the Bible presents and maybe it's just using this idiomatically it presents Hades as
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geocentric Hades is generally
described as being in the center of the earth
you may not have thought about
that down there we use that idiom you know rhetorically
but also we hear there's apparently a place called The
abuso the abyss translated typically
the bottomless pit there's only one place
geometrically you can have a bottomless pit
you see any place else but the center of the earth you can
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always dig deeper there's only one place in the earth you can't dig any deeper you go any deeper you're leaving it I mean you know it's it's sort of the there's an old joke old riddle you know that uh two campers uh set up camp and walked 10 miles south found Bear Tracks follow those tracks 10 miles to the West shot the bear and then carried him 10 miles north back to Camp question is what color is the bear and the answer is white because it has to be a polar bear because the only place you can go south west and the North and back where you started would be at the North Pole so it's a it's a one of these children's riddles but the point is an interesting one you see from the North Pole all directions are South at the center of the Earth all directions are up Center of Earth the only place you can't go down further from so if you start thinking about that
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"and you think if and if you're thinking geometrically
and I'm one of these weirdos you know
(Probably why I like him so much :-)
Cause me and honey are both "weirdos" as well.
I'm a physicist background math science major
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uh in in in high school and Technical not as a kid
and you may think this is rather elliptical or bizarre or
paradoxical I happen to I should say
I don't think I wouldn't say I really believe this
I just suspect that's really where it'll be
it may be there
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I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Hades is geocentric
because gehenna is the opposite
Jesus speaks of
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Gehenna as the outer Darkness
("The Three Passages
Matthew 8:12 – Spoken after Jesus marvels at the faith of a Roman centurion. He warns that physical heritage alone does not secure a place in the kingdom of heaven, stating that unexpected people will recline at the table while those who expected to enter are thrown outside.
Matthew 22:13 – Found in the Parable of the Wedding Banquet, where a guest arrives without the proper wedding garment provided by the host. The guest is bound and cast out into the darkness, emphasizing the need for genuine spiritual preparation and righteousness.
Matthew 25:30 – Found at the conclusion of the Parable of the Talents, where an unfaithful and lazy servant who squandered his master's trust is cast out, illustrating the serious consequences of spiritual neglect and failure to serve God.
Understand now why you don't here sermons
on those verses in church?
Its okay to point the finger at anybody else,
just not ourselves so much right?
I just can not stand a "spiritual lazy" "believer".
If you really are a true believer?
You simply will not be:
Spiritually
Intellectually
or
Physically
"habitually disinclined to exertion"
(See: sloth)
"just the opposite geometrically speaking
and of course
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in Revelation Hades is thrown into Gehenna
whatever that means and so so
(Revelation 20:14
Then death and Hades
were thrown into the lake of fire.
The lake of fire is the second death.
It means
what was once temporary
(see Luke 16 above)
is now eternal,
permanent.)
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uh so I uh I'm one of these guys that U not only takes it literally
I I worried substantially many many years ago you
probably wouldn't remember this but the National Science Foundation
had this big project called project mohole
they wanted to drill a hole through the mantle of the earth I remember when I first read
about that and was interested and I thought these guys are crazy they want to drill a hole through a wall where they don't know what's on the other side that's not too
bright you know what are they going to do if they
don't like with the results plug it with something you know um
fortunately Congress uh for probably a lot of other reasons
that you know cancel the project I was greatly relieved when they did I used to go back
to Revelation 9 and wonder if these you know anyway so
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but the point is
Satan is not the ruler of this fiery place
(See again: Sunday, February 23, 2025 Satan)
in fact it's designed to receive him
but he he makes
out his two buddies
the Antichrist the false prophet Revelation 13
they get thrown into that into Hades correction
in the lake with Bern fire in Gehenna
at the beginning of the Millennium..."
(DETOUR TIME:
Interesting to me
of the four Demonic Beast
mentioned in Revelation
only those two are:
"cast alive into a lake of fire
burning with brimstone."
The other two beast,
"the beast from the bottomless pit"
and "the scarlet colored beast"
aren't.
Indicating that those two beast
were created eternal
and are fallen angels,
and the other two beast
both have worldly origins.
Otherwise they would meet the same fate.
Important to point out while
The evil spirits of the Nephilim
REQUIRE
an abode, a habitation,
and while as Demons do not
(REQUIRE an abode, a habitation),
it doesnt mean
demons cant take over one.
(Fallen Angels that came with Satan)
If you just want "milk"?
Stay away from me.
"by now you should be teachers" etc.
Also See Revelation 20:1-3
for the binding of Satan.)
"he uh Satan doesn't get
thrown in then he gets chained
for a thousand years
there are some people say that
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we're in the millennium right now"
(Stay away from them,
they are calling God a liar.)
"and I love what Chuck Smith's response"
he always says if that's the case his chain is too
long at the end of the Thousand Years
(Pretty awesome quote.)
"Satan gets his due and he's thrown into Gehenna
and when he's thrown in the
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scripture records the other two guys
the Beast the false prophet
who've been there for a thousand years are still there
don't let anyone sell you
an the annihilation of the wicked
whoever does whoever speaks that way
doesn't have decent doesn't understand physics
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and does not understand the scripture
both would refute that
the part of you that's not Material
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Soul whatever is not subject to mass
it's Eternal
(Its only given eternity by it's owner,
God owns your soul
Ezekiel 18:4 "Behold, all souls are mine...
and the laws of physics
simply do not apply to their creator.)
"whether you're saved or not
and people who wrestle at Annihilation idea
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just don't understand the nature of t
he non-physical part of you
the real you the real you
is going is eternal has
has no time
time is the physical property
(Wow...first off,
There is no verse that says your soul is eternal.
That is your free gift of salivation
or your punishment of damnation for not accepting it.
"Eternity can only come from eternity"
is my way of phrasing it
"Now the most notable thing about both of these types of faith in a life to come is that there is no suggestion that the soul is by nature immortal...Instead the life to come is God's gift to those who are worthy."
Basic Christian Beliefs (1960) Fredrick C. Grant p.166
(And going back to the prelude and intro?
It doesnt matter who you are.
If you have rejected God's free gift
of salvation through his Christ?
Same fate.)
ALSO:
Empty space has
Quanta have mass
(except the photon and gluon)
Therefore
time has a physical
properity to it.)
"extract yourself from this particular physical coil
and you're now out of the time domain
altogether the problem is
where are you going to spend it
are you going to be with God
in his presence or not..."
("Your conscious energy
will be transformed
and spend eternity somewhere."
Is how I like to phrase it.)
"that's the issue
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and you can't be in his presence
we can't be in a presence
with our present genetic defect being subject to sin
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but God has provided a remedy for that
and it's available for the asking
however it's got to be received
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if you're in economic trouble
and you ultimately go to to seek
Refuge from your creditors called
bankruptcy there are procedures by which
you can get Refuge
but you got to ask for it
doesn't just happen you I'm talking about
chapter 11 proceeding on it's interesting interesting model
if you declare chapter 11 the court will exchange in exchange
with doing what the court requires
they'll give you certain protections
if you're on death
row and the governor signs a pardon
for you it's not effective until you accept
it there are cases on record where pardon was granted
and the Prisoner denied it did not receive it
and chose to be executed and he was
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you have a pardon signed paid in blood
on record but you got to receive it
if you insist upon not receiving
it the Lord will not violate your
sovereignty.
some theologians say
there will be no one in hell
for their sins
they'll be in hell
for not accepting the
provision God made for their sin
interesting concept
I'm not a theologian
I wouldn't press it
(Good advice lol)
I'm just a Bible teacher but I
think that's interesting:
(It's supported with scripture Dr. Missler
1st Corinthians 3:10-15
By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should build with care. 11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13 their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. 14 If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. 15 If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.
Nobody has ever 100% completely
stopped sinning after accepting Christ.
It's impossible. You are not him.
So it's pretty simple really:
Your reward in heaven
=
The work you do for the Kingdom
-
your sin
that gets thrown in the fire.
And your reward?
Well? If the 24 elders throw theirs down at his feet?
Revelation 4:10-11
10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
pretty safe to say you are going to as well.)
"so what as we study these topics let's be
uh uh conscious of the fact that
some of our images some of our ideas
are not shaped by the Bible but by great minds
who happen to write literature from a Biblical background
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they're not obviously uh milk Dante, Goethe
and some of the Traditions come out are colorful and interesting
if you like literature
but don't confuse them with the reality.
(Satan was at work
in the popular culture of the day
even as far back as the 1200's and before.
Don't confuse it with scriptural truths.)
"we have two problems with respect to Satan
the first problem is
we don't take him seriously
the church is very comfortable
talking about Jesus Christ
in a lot of ways
they get a little squirmy
when you want
to start to talk about the
personification of evil
that there's
a knowledgeable powerful malevolent being
whose career is focused on trying to
destroy you personally
tough ideas we glibly
talk about them idiomatically rhetorically conceptually
but the reality is something
we get a little uncomfortable with
so the first mistake we have make is we don't take it too
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seriously and by the way he's got a bunch of helpers
a third of the Angels fell with him Revelation 12 tells us
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the good news is 2/3 didn't
so he's outnumbered
that's kind have a nice feeling
um but he's outnumbered if
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nothing else than
his adversary is other Angels alone
his adversary isnt the guy that made him
in the first place the
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creator of everything that made
that was made without him
was not anything made that was made
tells us the first three verses of his gospel
and let's not
forget who the Creator is
let's not forget
who Jesus Christ really is
and let's not sort of visualize him in an
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you know
one for one kind of
standoff with Satan
you see that's the that's the
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other error we make
we first of all either ignore Satan
or don't take him seriously
if we don't do that
we go the other way we become
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terrified as you think about it
and read the scripture
and learn more we go we make
the other kind of mistake
and that's to tremble at every turn
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it's interesting how many groups
that get pretty serious about spiritual things
and gets into demonology it isn't long before they see
a demon behind every tree and there's a risk there too
we need remember greater is he that is in
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you than he that is in the world
but the one thought that I think
we should keep in mind
especially in our day today is
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remember whose Turf we're on
see we you and I
we've grown up in a country
that's very unique or has been I
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should could say for two centuries
better part of two centuries
we've been in a country where
the worship of Jesus Christ
was essentially encouraged where
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there was at least lip service given
(Most of it was just that
and a lot of good the lip service did.
just look at US.)
'to a value structure that emerges out of the Holy Bible
we've tended with some
justification in the past
to think very highly morally
of this country"
(That is a thing of the past now Chuck.
That is long gone.
We have now become
what we used to despise.)
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"the penalty of that though
is our thinking
often gets a little muddled
we need to recognize who owns this
place I'll be more precise
Who has possession of this place
(Again: Sunday, February 23, 2025
is the God of this Earth.
PERIOD.)
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when Satan was tempting Jesus Christ he took him on
on a mountain and showed him all the nations of the world
in a moment of time
I don't know how they did that you can sort of visualize it
in your own terms but he made a statement
he says' all these are given to me
Satan speaking:
all these are given to me
I can give them to whoever I will
and they're yours who worship me
that proposal has no merit or value or
it's not a Temptation
if there's no legitimacy to the claim
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claim they if I offered to sell you a title deed
to this entire Resort we were meeting
would you be tempted to buy it from me
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I don't think so because you know well I you know you know
I don't have a claim on it okay if I was Bob templin up here
and says hey I'll sell you this thing for X
dollars you say well that's that might be a pretty good deal
because he owns it I mean I'm assuming you
I guess I'm saying is for Jesus to be faced with
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that proposal has no meaning unless
it's a legitimate proposal
and it's interesting Jesus
doesn't challenge his his ownership of it
there's much there's much more there
(Agreed)
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"I don't want to derail our whole study
into that issue alone but it's
interesting to recognize his title
the God of this age
the God of this world
(2 Corinthians 4:4, Revelation 11:4)
we're on his turf
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we're pilgrims
we're not residents here
I hope
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Satan does not rule in hell
he rules here
and that's the first issue
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here now moving
At that time shall Michael stand up
that great prince who stand for
the children of thy people oh one other
thing uh just to seal off the other issue
Michael shows up four times but one of the interesting times is
in the book of Jude where Michael is contesting
with whom Satan yeah and even there of course
he draws upon direct power from the Lord himself and I won't get into
that whole thing I think we've talked about that in the past anyway
26:3026 minutes, 30 seconds okay
now we get in this phrase
and there shall be a time of
trouble such as never was
since there was a nation
even to that same time
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and at that time
thy people shall be delivered
everyone that shall be found
written in the book
hold your place here but you might want to turn to
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Matthew 24 this famous famous occasion
when Jesus responds to these four disciples
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with a confidential briefing about the end times
when shall the signs when it shall
what shall be the sign
of thy coming and
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the end of the age they ask him in verse three
take heed that no man deceive you
he says
and he goes on to give them a number of things verse 7 he speaks of
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that there will be famines pestilences and earthquakes
in various places
all these are about the beginning of Sorrows
beginning of birth pains
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meaning they're going to increase in intensity and frequency
all of these things we get to verse 15 we've talked
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about this great deal but again by way of review
when ye therefore shall see
the abomination of desolation
that's this event that occurs in the middle of
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that seven-year period that Daniel elaborates for us
spoken of by Daniel the Prophet
stand in the Holy place whosoever readth let him understand then
let them who are in Juda flee into the mountains
let him who is in the house stop not come down
to take anything out of his house NE
let him who is on the field take return to take his cloak and
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woe to those who are with child and those
who nurse children in those days
but pray that your flight be not in Winter
neither on the Sabbath day
for then
shall be Great Tribulation
such as was not
since the beginning of the world
to this time no
nor ever shall be
that's really uh uh terrifying language
there have been a lot of um troubles on the
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earth you might take a look at Mark 13
as another way this is recorded
Mark 13 is parallel passage to Matthew 24
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Matthew 24 and 25 are paralleled
by Mark 13-14 and Luke 21-22
in this record by
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Mark he says for in those days there sh verse 19
for in those days there shall be
afflictions such was as was not since
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the beginning of the creation
which God created unto his time
this time neither shall be and except
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the Lord shortened those days that no flesh
should be saved but for the elect sake
whom he hath chosen he hath
shortened the days
and so on now
kind of interesting yeah Matthew of course to
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also in verse 22 we stop one verse 2
except those days should be shorten
there should no flesh be saved
but for the elect's sake
those days shall be shortened
it's kind of
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interesting one could argue
that we live in the first (age)
where the technology is available to
have this happen
(And now that has just been amplified
on a scale that is just unthinkable with AI
models that can find and
exploit zero-day vulnerabilities.
See; Thursday, September 3, 2026
Cause this is what the world needs right now..
"The company said Astra can find
previously unknown security flaws
and exploit them without
step-by-step guidance from humans.")
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"one of the things that since the thermonuclear period
especially there are now over
70,000 nuclear warheads
on planet Earth a few hundred is all it would take"
(I can not find when this was done
but it was some years ago.)
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"and there's70,000 Russia actually has some 25 Megaton bombs
not many of them but a few of them apparently I I understand if you had 40 of those
launched at one time it would alter the orbit of the earth these things are devastating
we have the technology today to wipe out the human race You could argue in the days of Alexander the Great or the Roman Empire or what have you even maybe in
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the 1800s with your Wooden Ships and Iron Men
as they say it's hard to visualize being effective at trying to wipe out the whole earth you might have some pretty bloody wars obviously you might have some plagues and stuff but I mean you know the technology didn't seem to be in hand for man to Red destroy himself but we fixed that
(Well it is here in abundance now)
"but this phrase that
there should be Great Tribulation such as not since
the creation the way
Mark says it is even more terrifying
because that includes another event
the flood of Noah
it's interesting that Peter draws an analogy to the flood of Noah
he says next time I'll won't be with water I'll be with
fire this is a very disturbing passage
when you recognize
as we get into this period
the Great Tribulation
this time of trouble as Jesus quotes it here
from Daniel 12 we find it first mentioned
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When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,
if thou turn to the Lord thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
31 (For the Lord thy God is a merciful God;)
he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee,
nor forget the covenant of thy fathers
which he sware unto them.
but its most famous reference is in
Alas! for that day is great,
so that none is like it:
it is even the time of Jacob's trouble,
but he shall be saved out of it.
"I think you may want to look at that
because it's an important verse you wa
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you want to Jeremiah you may want to mark it
because you get a lot of people that don't
recognize the focus not just of Matthew 24
but especially of this time of trouble
I'm not saying it's going to be limited this
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way but it's going it's a
verse seven of Jeremiah 30:7 alas for the day
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is great so that none is like it it is is
even the time of Jacob's trouble but
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he shall be saved out of it
whenever it's mentioned it
seems there's always
appended to it a commitment of
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encouragement but
the New Testament term is the Great Tribulation
and we use that term because of Jesus's remark in Matthew 24
thus it gets that label but
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Jesus is quoting Daniel 12
and Daniel 12 the focus of it
is Israel
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Israel and this substantiation
that is
Jeremiah 30:7
How awful that day will be!
No other will be like it.
It will be a time of trouble for Jacob,
(Israel)
but he will be saved out of it.)
the focus of
the Great Tribulation is Israel.
(Israel
(One who wrestles with God)
only in the sense of
the body of true believers left...
Mathew 21:43
Therefore say I unto you,
The kingdom of God
shall be taken from you,
and given to a nation
bringing forth the fruits thereof
"Thy People"...
All of God's people who truly believe.
From the intro:
Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
Pretty much nails it:
"Every one that shall be found written in the book;
in the book of life, as Jacchiades;
in the book of God's eternal purposes and decrees,
concerning the salvation of his people
by Christ;
for it is according to these
that God saves and calls men,
whether Jews or Gentiles...
Jews that don't believe in Christ
don't get an exemption.
They might as well be Buddahist.
SHOW ME THE VERSE.
This is why I covered everything like I did
at the beginning.
Here are some of the problems I have
with what Dr. Missler is saying:
So Israel as the Jewish nation:
rejects the Messiah from among their very own,
practices a false religion descended from the Pharisees
whom Christ called out most emphatically,
signs a deal with Christ polar opposite
THE Anti-Christ
and then Michael protects them
during the pouring out of God's wrath
during the second half
of the last of Daniels 70/7's
???????????
I just can not do
the mental gymnastics it takes
to make that all make sense,
because it just doesn't.
What seems much more plausible is,
the Israel spoken of
is the body of true believers
protected from Gods wrath
during the great tribulation
while Jewish nonbelievers
get a double dose of it,
once
for rejecting the messiah
who was one of their own
and again for
signing a treaty with The Anti-Christ
at the start of the end of an age.
And thank you do much Merrill Unger
Tuesday, January 28, 2025
BIBLICAL DEMONOLOGY AND ESCHATOLOGY
THE DEMONOLOGY OF THE LAST DAYS
1952 BTW.
"C. THE DEMONOLOGY OF THE LAST DAYS AND THE JEW
Direct and potent demonic activity and deception can be discerned in every phase of the Jewish rejection of the Lord Jesus Christ, their Messiah, at His first advent. The venomous hatred of the scribes and the Pharisees, their secret and underhand plottings, the fraud and the crooked methods resorted to in His trial, His unjust condemnation, and shameful death-all bear the unmistakable stigma of demonic treachery. The insensate cry of the populace, "His blood be on us, and on our children" (Matt. 27:25), and the blindness which has rested on Jewish hearts down through the Christian centuries (Rom. 11:25), prove the grip that demon power has over this people. But, however great Jewish deception and demon domination have been in the past, the full force and manifestation of demonic tyranny, as in the case of unbelieving Gentiles, will not be reached until the last awful days of this dispensation, just preceding the second advent of the Messiah."
1. DEMONISM AND LAST-DAY JEWISH UNBELIEF
It was very significant prophecy which Jesus uttered concerning the abysmal delusion which would be the penalty for Jewish skepticism in the last days. ."I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive" (John 5:43). Refusing the light, they will accept gross darkness. Rejecting the true Christ, they will welcome the false one, even him "whose coming is according to the working of Satan with all power, and signs, and lying wonders" (II Thess. 2:9), who "opposeth and exalteth himself against all that is called God or that is worshipped; so that he sitteth in the temple of God, setting himself forth as God" (II Thess. 2:4).Regathered to their homeland, established there as a nation in unbelief, with a rebuilt temple, and a reinstated Judaism, under demon tutelage and imposture, they will make a league with the Antichrist at the beginning of the amazing final seven years of this age (Dan. 9:27).
(There is a "long Detour"
on the blog post being cited above
about why I reject a rebuilt temple,
Wednesday, March 18, 2026
Turkey, Iran, Beast from the Abyss,
No need for a third temple, etc...
reference all my comments there
if you feel the need
(And I used to hold that view BTW)
Not to mention
Matthew 24:2
See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you,
There shall not be left here one stone upon another,
that shall not be thrown down.
Trying to be brief here lol...trying...)
Back to, THE DEMONOLOGY OF THE LAST DAYS AND THE JEW
"The ungodly alliance will prove a covenant with "death and hell" (Isa. 28:18), for in the middle of the period the false, flattering Messiah will break his agreement, sit in the temple, demanding worship for the image he will set up, "
(Written in 1952, today we understand that
He himself will be the image.
"A soulless quantum powered AI humanoid."
What could be any more antithetical to the
"Son of Man"
a Human Being?)
"and for himself. The cruel and terrible "abomination of desolation, (Matt. 24:15) will mark the commencement of the most intense and diabolical persecution of the Jew the world has yet seen, the horrible "time of Jacob's trouble" (Jer. 30:7).
"Through the fiery ordeal of death and desolation, the nation will be made to see its supreme folly and crime in rejecting its true Messiah, and choosing the false one. Through the refining crucible they will learn the deadly power of demonic delusion, and in their dire extremity, will turn their eyes heavenward, and cry for their true deliverer, as the godless demon-led armies close in to destroy them completely from the face of the earth."
"When their Messiah breaks through the heavens in unspeakable glory, the scales will at last fall from their blinded eyes, and when they look upon Him whom they have pierced, they will recognize Him not only as the Messiah, the King of kings and Lord of lords, but as the meek and lowly Jesus of Nazareth, whom they slew on Golgotha's brow. Unbelief will give way to radiant faith, and hardness of heart to great mourning and "the spirit of grace and supplications" (Zech. 12:10).
2. DEMONISM AND LAST-DAY JEWISH DEMONIC POSSESSION
The twelfth chapter of Matthew is a scathing exposure of the wickedness and gross unbelief of the Jews in rejecting and slandering their King and Messiah. Their dreadful guilt in repudiating divinely attested truth, in refusing inward light, and thus sinning against the Holy Spirit, made them more culpable than the ancient heathen (Matt. 12:38-42), and furnishes the background and occasion for Jesus' vivid prophetic parable incisively emphasizing the appalling fact, that,
although the nation was then wicked,
in the future it would become even more so.
(And that is right now
right in front of your faces
an unbelieving wicked nation of Israel
simply will not be afforded divine protection,
it does not match with what happened to them
in the rest of the scripture, ever, not once.
"In other words,
does the viewpoint...
demonstrate a proper method
of interpreting Scripture?...
Does it fit the facts of history?
Using the graphic and significant figure of a demoniac, Jesus sketches in that chapter the history of the Jewish people (Matt. 12:43-45). The illustration begins at the point of dispossession. "But the unclean spirit, when he is gone out of the man, passeth through waterless places, seeking rest, and findeth it not" (v. 43). The demon-possessed man represents, according to the scope of the passage indicated by our Lord himself, "this evil generation" (v. 45). The reference to "race" (genea) is clearly to the Jewish nation, which had so signally exhibited its crime, and so deservedly merited the epithet "evil" in its abysmal unbelief and deliberate rejection of its rightful Messiah. The man in the original demonized state speaks of the nation "from the time of the Exodus to the period of the Captivity," when the worship of other gods exercised a strange and horrible fascination over the people," and "deprived them . . . of light, reason, and the true freedom of will," so that they were enslaved and possessed by the "unclean spirit" of idolatry. The expulsion of the demon from the man suggests the departure of the unclean spirit of idolatry from the nation after the exile, when, not so much by the teaching of the prophets as by that of the scribes and the Pharisees, idolatory seemed banished forever. The house, "empty, swept, and garnished" (v. 44), describes the condition of the Jews under their freedom from idolatry and with their moral and social improvements. However, the arresting word is "empty." The nation was (and is) undeniably improved in certain ways, "swept clean, and in good order." But the calamitous thing is that it was (and is) "empty," unoccupied by God's Spirit, unpossessed by a living faith, and uncontrolled by any genuine spiritual life. The resulting improvements are of no avail, and are to be swept away."
"The seven other more evil idolatrous spirits,7 joined with the first, enter into the man and forewarn of the last and worst state of the nation in the great tribulation. Then, destitute of faith, and bereft of God's Spirit, the nation will be the pitiable prey of more numerous, more depraved and destructive demons than at any previous period in its history, and will be held in the grip of a more intense, complete, and tyrannous state of demon possession than ever before. It will be this condition of complete demonic domination and subjugation that will account for the nation's supreme act of idolatry and wickedness, the colossal blunder of making a covenant with the Antichrist, incurring unparalleled disaster and ruin. Daniel 9:27.
So during
The Great Tribulation
The Jewish people get a double dose
of Gods wrath,
NOT
protected from it.)
"I'm not implying
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Israel is the only one with problems
but the it's a specific strategy
on the part of Satan Satan
and that's why I think
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Michael focus on Satan because
Satan's always focusing on Israel
(He (satan) doesn't need bother
with people that don't believe
he already has them in his back pocket.
It's Body of true believers on behalf of whom
Michael fights Satan for.
It's not Moses Book of like.
It's not David's Book of life.
It's not The "Jewish" Book of Life.
It's "the book of life of the Lamb slain
from the foundation of the world."
Revelation 13:8)
"and maybe this is the
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time to look at well one other thing
while we're Jer on our way to Revelation stop off at
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Zechariah Chapter 13
(Zechariah 13:9
And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.
See: Monday, July 20, 2026
( A eulogy for the Pretribulation Rapture.)
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are heavy Rich prophetic chapters
and I always hesitate
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to jump in here because it's hard just to get a piece
you get you get into the whole thing but in um just a few back a
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little background in Ezekiel 20 Israel says
he's the is going to pass under the rod in Ezekiel 22 it speaks of the
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Furnace of Affliction here in
Zechariah verse 8 it will come to pass
that in all the land sayeth the Lord two parts of it
shall be cut off and die but the third shall be left in it
there's some other references to this
also this is one of the classic ones which implies
most scholars believe
what this says is 2/3 will be wiped out
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out 2/3rds to be wiped out heavy time
you know it's interesting if you
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get to Israel I hope you have a chance
to join us in in one of our tours if you
can but if you uh go on your own
or go on a tour one of the things
you want to make a personal much to see in
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Jerusalem but I strongly encourage you to take some time one afternoon and go
visit a museum sort of I guess you'd call a museum it's called yadvashem
you need to walk through it to understand the
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Holocaust very simple very graphic
very complete it's worth
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doing to try to understand
what happened in the the 30s and 40s in Europe
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you probably have seen I know I haven't seen up here in this part of the country but we lived in Southern California always joke California is theland of the bumper sticker Christian but somehow uh there are all kinds of bumper stickers of all all kinds
my favorite bumper sticker
the guy that had a bumper sticker said:
"Nuke the gay whales."
(Bout fell out BTW)
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but what you do what you do see a great deal
of you'll also see the sticker it says
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NEVER AGAIN
and it's a plea or a hope or a commitment hopefully
that the Holocaust will never happen again
(We have had several genocides since then
And now, right in our own time
the nation of Israel
is doing to others
the same exact thing
that was done to it
See:
above.)
"and I understand why they have the stickers
I understand the commitment
and yet every time I see that I almost
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weep because
the scripture says
that the Holocaust
that we're so familiar with
of of the past is but a Prelude
because Jesus says
there shall come then
a time of trouble such was
never until then
well that covers some pretty tough time..."
(The day before I copied this transcript over
and started on this in draft form
honey watched a show about the Holocaust.
She said God told her to watch it.
That it was indicative of what's coming.
The very next day
I came across Dr. Misslers statement above
I ran downstairs to tell her what I had just read
and how it matched up
with what she had just said the day before.)
"the Holocaust that we're so familiar with
of of the past is but a Prelude"
(Now Also Consider:
Wednesday, May 28, 2025
"Meanwhile?
Just like honey says:
"That aint to keep illegals out
that's to keep you in."
"They are currently busy
making the country a prison for their:
AI and Crypto capital of the world."
Military seizing massive swaths
5/27/25
Responsible Statecraft
As well as:
Friday, May 30, 2025
Yeah, no kiddin, keep cheering this on
Militarizing America’s southern border
militarytimes.com
Sunday, June 28, 2026
"And the ICE budget
for detention facilities is 40 Billion?
40 fuckin billion?
on detention centers across US, document shows
Reuters 02/13/26"
"Discerning people could tell:
The amount of $ being spent
on Detention Centers
was just way out of proportion
to just be only for immigrants."
Friday, September 18, 2026
Here is all you need to understand...
"Musk has pegged the long term output target at 10 million Optimus units a year once the line is running at full capacity..."
And those wont be for you
oh no no no no no no...
those will be for them
and here is why:
Back to Missler and Daniel 12
"The Time of The End")
"and who's the
architect of this trouble
and this might be the place for us to deviate here to
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(And by now I was saying to myself:
"Chuck? Buddy?
you are staying WAY off topic
a lil more than normal"
And I think the reason for that is obvious as day.
Go reread the prelude and the intro again if need be.)
'Revelation CH 12
is one of these
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overview perspective building kind of chapters
several there's a whole pattern in the Book of Revelation
structural pattern this is a
case where there's sort of a pause and a sort of a drama
of some personages that emerge that lay out an overview of
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history and there appeared a great Wonder in heaven
a woman clothed with the Sun the moon under her feet
upon her head a crown of 12 stars and this is an
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idiom from Genesis 37
about Israel the woman is Israel
she being with child cried
(Again I differ from Dr. Missler.
Tuesday, August 26, 2025
(It's more personal than you might think)
"She" in revelation 12
refers to wisdom.
As in the wisdom needed to create
the first and last church.
I searched every commentary I could find.
Both on line and in all my reference material
I have available to me in my office.
Not one commentary I read
ever mentions
"She"
(Mentioned 5x)
or "The Woman"
(Mentioned 8x)
or "Her"
(Mentioned 9x)
as being wisdom.
"She" was with God from the beginning.
Reference: Proverbs 8:22-31.
The Hebrew noun for the word "wisdom" is feminine.
Being with god since the beginning
just might imply
the female aspect of divinity.)
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travailing in birth and pain to be delivered she's about to deliver the Manchild which will be mentioned verse five or uh yeah verse 5 uh it's actually
the child that was promised in Genesis 3:15 the seed of the woman
this is the woman we're talking about it's Israel
but in the sense that it began with Eve
there appeared another Wonder in heaven
Behold a great red dragon having
seven heads and 10 horns
and seven crowns upon his heads
different of idioms we first
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encounter him in Genesis 3
is the Nash The Shining one
the Cherub that is in big
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trouble we have to guess who he is
because he's well identified in verse n the great red dragon was cast out that
old serpent called the devil and Satan who deceiveth the whole world
he was cast out into the Earth and his angels were cast out with him that's in verse
n that's good news in a sense a bad news for the planet Earth
but good news for his for the faithful
because he's no longer in Heaven
able to accuse them
(Faithfull aint there yet yo:
Revelation 15:8
No man could enter the temple
until the seventh vial was poured out.
John the Revelator
got a pretty detailed account of what entities were in heaven
he never mentioned anyone being there because they weren't.
(Enoch and Elijah being exceptions
and John didn't see them either.)
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when we study Job chapter 1 and chapter 2 we discover
Satan has access to the throne of God
and his his full-time preoccupation
is to accuse us accuse the
Believers
(Not just Israel?
Not just Jews?
Interesting concept :-)
here he's cast out anyway back to verse four
and his tale drew a third part of the stars of
heaven and did cast them to the earth and the dragon stood
before the woman who was ready to be delivered
to devour her child as soon as it was born it's
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interesting this career of this Satan he apparently had
the third that fell with him he apparently
cast them to the Earth they seem to be around in all
kinds of Mischief but he stood before the woman
ready to to be delivered to devour a child as soon as it was born and I think
we've talked about this how
the entire Bible from Genesis on
you can you can map out as a plot for
Satan tries to thwart the plan of God as God it
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progressively reveals more details
about the Messiah from Genesis 3 on
gives us more detail
it allows Satan to focus his
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attack first it's just Cain and Abel and all that
but then it gets to be Mankind in general
with the corruption of the the
suh the Human family Tree in Genesis 6
leading to the flood
but it goes on and on
he is able to what it's Abraham he
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can focus on Abraham Isaac Jacob under Jacob
it turns out to be Judah aha he can focus and the whole scenario that
unfolds in the Old Testament whether it's
the murdering of the babes in Egypt
or the murdering of the babes in Bethlehem is Satan's plot to somehow
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prevent this gold this golden or what should I say
the Scarlet thread now he's ready to in verse five
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the woman brings forth the Manchild
who is to rule all nations with the rod of iron
a child was caught up to God into his throne
and the woman fled into the wilderness
now between verse 5 and six is one of
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those intervals that we talked about
the woman fled Into the Wilderness
where she hath a place prepared by God
that they should feed her there
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1,2 three score days strange phrase
We recognize that right away as
this interval of half the
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seven half of Daniel 70 week the 70th week
of Daniel 7-year period broken into two parts
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1260 days actually two parts of 1260 days
except we're going to find some amplification of that
in Daniel 12 when we move back there"
(9/18/26)
Score after three hands.
1260.)
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there it's interesting that um Satan
is still at it all right better get bogged down
on this let's get back to Daniel 12
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cuz we're just in verse one aren't we
yeah okay one technical point
the Great Tribulation
occurs after the abomination of desolation
the Abomination desolation starts
in the middle of the week
the Great Tribulation
is not seven years long
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it's three and a half years long
don't lose sight of that we covered that before
let's move on
at that time thy people shall be delivered
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everyone that shall
be found written in the book
and you can do a study
I'll let you do this on your own
(WHY?
WHY DO THAT?
WHY SAY STUDY THAT
"ON YOUR OWN?
Already did BTW
And it's in this post.
at the Intro yo.
Making this:
"everyone that shall
be found written in the book"
(Daniel 12:1)
about any other book
besides the lambs book of life is
absolutely misguided and opens up
a whole book load of issues
and I think Dr. Missler understood that
and thats why he suggest
go study that on your own
IT"S ALL DUE TO THE TIME FRAME
WE ARE DEALING WITH
"And at that time
shall Michael stand up"
(The Great Tribulation when
"The King Who Exalts Himself"
"THE Anti-Christ
Daniel 11:36-45 or 33-45
will rule this earth.)
"with a concordance you can do a study of books
there's a lot of books the book of law
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of course there's the book of
the wars of the Lord
Lord in numbers 14
(Kinda missing
the obvious here Chuck:
"everyone that shall
be found written in the book"
It is just as obvious as day
which book that is referring to.
Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him,
whose names are not written
in the book of life of the Lamb slain
from the foundation of the world.
Revelation 17:8
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Revelation 21:27
And there shall in no wise enter into it
any thing that defileth,
neither whatsoever worketh abomination,
or maketh a lie:
but they which are written
in the Lamb's book of life.
Revelation 20:15
And whosoever was not found
written in the book of life
was cast into the lake of fire.
So why even bother to say study it at home?
Or talk about any other books?)
"but you also find this idea of the
faithful of Israel
in the book"
(Faithfull True Believers.
As Dr. Missler stated above
Who does Satan accuse?
Believers.
Thats not Jews
and this isnt complicated.
And no I do not have a thing
against Jews anymore than I have
anything against anyone else,
(except for maybe 'the willfully ignorant'
who just choose to ignore reality)
BUT I JUST ABSOLUTELY
DESPISE AMERICAN EVANGELIVCALS
preoccupation with the subject.)
"and the idiom that seems to emerge from Exodus 32
and the other places that shows up in the Old Testament is that
they're faithful
until they're Unfaithful
and they're erased
(Now that phrase?
I just love.
Amillennialism is faithful?
This is the millennial kingdom?
Calling God a liar?
Gets Erased.
Pretribulation rapture of "The Church"?
Not trusting in Gods word enough
and not wishing to be purified by the furnace
of affliction enough
so as to try and find a way around it?
Gets Erased.
ANY church
not willing to call out the
augmented evil supernaturalism
at the end of this age
that we are witnessing right now?
See: Friday, September 11, 2026
Neither repented they of their murders,
Gets erased.
Get a clue.
GOD IS DONE
with this nonsense.)
"that's where this blotting out idea emerges
and you can you can uh I'll let you chase those
things on your own with a concordance um Exodus 32 Psalm 69:28
and on it goes now to verse two
we let's see we've used a
you can do a
mathematical extrapolation
we should finish Daniel 12
in about 3 weeks
no it's very nonlinear
let's go ahead verse two here's an interesting
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verse it's in the Old Testament
and many of those who sleep
in the dust of the Earth shall awake
some to everlasting life
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and some to to shame
and everlasting contempt
now some commentator says
this is the first mention of everlasting life
in the Bible That's not quite true
it turns out cuz if you look carefully at Psalm 16:10
and Psalm 49:15 and Isaiah 258 2619 couple other places
you find the idea buried
but this is the first use of this
word Alam or Everlasting
the word Alam the Everlasting term
by the way the structure of the grammar is that that
same term applies to both groups but the
first of all
we're talking about
a resurrection here right
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many of those who sleep in the dust of the Earth shall awake
some to everlasting life and some to the shame and everlasting contempt
it's interesting there are actually
three different kinds
of resurrections
that Scholars will talk about
there's actually a term called spiritual Resurrection
you'll find that kind of a a
concept um interestingly enough uh in
you know that whole idea
that we're passed from
death into life that we're quickened by the word of God
that we've been dead in sins but not
you get those ideas
and so people will talk
as a Spiritual Resurrection
but I I've always been
uncomfortable with that"
(That makes two of us.)
"because that's a that's confusion of terms
what we're talking about
Resurrection is a physical Resurrection
I believe that's what it
refers to Here.'
(Couldn't agree more
bout flipped out the first time
I ran across this verse.)
"There is a term in the Old Testament especially
where it speaks of
a national Resurrection
like Ezekiel's dry bones and so forth where
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it's used again though it's used idiomatically if you will
I think the abundance of the commentators
believe very clearly in
verse two that we're talk about
the physical a physical Resurrection"
(100% agreed.)
"know it's interesting
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that the word in verse two
the second word is many not all
that's pretty interesting
many of those who sleep in the dust of the Earth shall
awake not all of them some see of the many some to
everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting contempt
here's another rebuttal in
effect to the notion of the wicked
the unsaved get new bodies
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also a new form of existence
this leads to some interesting problems
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"this Resurection occurs
after the tribulation
but who's it talking
about Israel"
(Body of true believers
Lambs book of life slain
from the foundations of the world
Matthew 21:43
“Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit.)
'one of the things
many people look to this
and say gee
this is
a post-tribulation Resurrection
yes indeed
that leads to a doctrine
that most of the scholars
that I hold in highest respect cling to
that may surprise you
(And this is a staunch
"Pretribulation" admitting
"this is
a post-tribulation Resurrection'
See why he is struggling?
Staying off topic so much?
"It is essential that we stand back from our presumptions and prejudices and listen carefully to what the Biblical text is telling us. We are living in exciting times, but we need to be diligent in our study of God’s Word. The only certain barrier to truth is the presumption that we already have it."
~
Chuck Missler 2009"
He didn't do that here,
and it shows through
with the staying off topic,
you can get into that on your own etc...)
AND WHY?
What's wrong with "clinging"
to the truth of Gods word?
It's Gods word
and it is very much straight forward
unlike some other doctrines like oh IDK
Dispensationalism, Pretribulation rapture,
Christian Zionism etc.)
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"there is a widely held view
among specialists in eschatology
that the Rapture involves
the church only"
(Just show me one verse
where it is mentioned explicitly.
IT'S NOT.
If that is the truth?
(The "Rapture" of the church before the tribulation)
It seems like it would have been stated
in clear, simple terms by Christ himself
or at a minimum at least alluded to
by him.
IT NEVER WAS
This whole notion of
The Pretribulation Rapture
hangs on the Church not being mentioned
in Revelation from Chapters 4 -22
(or something close to that)
What other doctrine does anybody adhere to
that is based on what the Bible doesn't say for
18 Chapters?
We read it to see what it says,
not to see what it doesn't mention.
And these are the people
that portray themselves as literalist?
I just shake my head.
Spiritual preparedness is a thing yo:
See: The Parable of the Ten Virgins
There is a reason that came after
Not to mention all the other problems
a Pretribulation "Rapture" of the church creates:
Which Church?
There are like 48,000 denomination
or watever.
Who comes and gets you?
How and when do you get back?
Cause God comes here
so where are you going etc.
True doctrines solve problems
they do not create them.
And if you go all:
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
I'll remind you what Christ himself said:
Matthew 24:29-30
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
As well as what he prayed
for all of us
John 17:15
I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
John 17:20, same prayer...
Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
AND?
When does the wheat get
separated from the chaff?
Matthew 3:11-12
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
12 Whose fan is in his hand,
and he will throughly purge his floor,
and gather his wheat into the garner;
but he will burn up the chaff
with unquenchable fire.
Also to be found in Luke 3:17.
His floor and his wheat
aint referring to the wicked
its the pretenders, imposters, posers,
the wish they weres and the wanna bes
filling up church pews every Sunday.
AND when is
the separating the good fish
from the bad fish?
Matthew 13:47-50
47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net,
that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
48 Which, when it was full, they drew to shore,
and sat down, and gathered the good into vessels,
but cast the bad away.
49 So shall it be at the end of the world:
the angels shall come forth,
and sever the wicked from among the just,
50 And shall cast them into the furnace of fire:
there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
There are plenty of fish
that werent caught up in that net
thats the wicked outside the church.
The bad fish in the net is the wicked
inside the church.
That gets separated out
and the Tribulation is how it is done.
"When it was full" means
at the appointed time.
At the end of our age.
In the Scofield reference bible?
The very one that popularized the idea of a
"Pre-tribulation Rapture"?
Scofield only had a comment on Matthew 13:47-50
(none of the others)
and that comment doesn't address the separation
of the good from the wicked from within The Church.
and it aint to hard to figure out why that is.)
"most of us I know
I've often haven't you know uh alluded to the idea
that you know all believers get get resurrected
at the Rapture
there are those who study this
more precisely who argue
that the Jewish Believers
of the Old Testament are
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raptured with Israel
after the tribulation
(Body of true believers,
and I wouldn't worry so much about
the Old Testament Saints,
the Martyrs will train em up
during the millennium.
(We will see here in a lil while
theres no need for that.0
Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy is he that
hath part (shares)
in the first resurrection:
on such the second death hath no power,
but they shall be priests of God and of Christ,
and shall reign with him a thousand years.
If you are going to share in something?
Gotta have somebody to do it with
(along with everybody who ever lived
that never heard the word)
"Perfect students", I call em
because their minds are clean
they haven't been polluted with things like
oh, IDK, the Pretribulation rapture,
Christian Zionism
Amillennialism, Dispensationalism etc...
The martyrs in the Millennial Kingdom
are going to be doing something,
they not just hanging out with Christ
for 1000 years doing nothing.)
"that the Rapture of the
church is the rapture of the church"
(Be a Berean
give me a verse, and
Notice Dr. Missler hasn't.
This is just complete nonsense,
came to the game late
(1800's)
and is very far removed from the truth
and only caught on
in the West, largely in the US
where we just want everything
to be comfortable.
WELL TOUGH.
Get ready for the refining fire
of your redeemer
or get out.)
"now I don't want to oversell that
because we're in an area where
there a lot of good competent Scholars have
differences of view
it gets into some to start splitting these hairs
gets into a lot of technicalities of both the Greek
and the Hebrew and all that and I don't
I don't want to get us all derailed in those things
(Cause it disproves what you are saying.
Where is the "splitting of hairs" mentioned
to be found here:
"I'll remind you what Christ himself said:
Matthew 24:29-30
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
OR HERE?
And prayed for all of us:
John 17:15
I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
John 17:20, same prayer...
Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
AS WELL AS:
When does the wheat get separated from the chaff?
Matthew 3:11-12
I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
12 Whose fan is in his hand,
and he will throughly purge his floor,
and gather his wheat into the garner;
but he will burn up the chaff
with unquenchable fire.
Also to be found in Luke 3:17.
His floor and his wheat aint referring to the wicked
its the pretenders, imposters, posers,
the wish they weres and wanna bes
filling up church pews every Sunday.
etc etc etc)
"but I mention so you at least be aware of this
many of you may already hold that view
many of you may
46:1746 minutes, 17 seconds
be startled by that
because in Christian Community
where we deal
with the Bible literally
(Be a Berean, find me the verse.
If true? Then this is a monumental occasion:
The Rapture of Believers
BEFORE
the Tribulation
Christ never said a word about it.
NOT ONE.
The five sections of scripture above just repudiate every last bit of it. I just told honey the robots are gonna come and haul people off
and they are still gonna be thinking they are gonna get "Raptured"
The actual word is Harpazo and it means a kidnapping it is to be violently taken away against ones will.
So why would Christ have to do that?)
"I think the concept of rapture
is you know well talked about although
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the more I study the Rapture
the more I'm convinced
that most of the literature
has the foggiest notion
of what the Rapture is really all about"
(Cause as demonstrated its all man made up bullshit.
Satanic delusion is a part of end time prophecy ya know?
Thessalonians 2:11-12
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,
that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned
who believed not the truth,
but had pleasure in unrighteousness.)
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we have all these funny little diagrams you see in book prophecy books
you know people being disappearing and
stuff and it is very difficult to visualize
what the scripture does indeed indicate
we'll be involved and
yet I think what we fail to appreciate
there's going to be incredibly dramatic changes
in addition to the fact there be
some people missing Romans 8 speaks that
the creation groanth and travail
until that point there's going to be a lot of
changes many of which may not be disclosed here
but the point is the first thing
you need to understand
I think we all of us in this room I think have
47:1347 minutes, 13 seconds
done enough Bible study to recognize
that there are two resurrections
what we may not realize
those are not events they're categories
(Its both:
Righteous at the second coming of Christ:
2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
(Believers only, judged for rewards
Also see: 1 Corinthians 3:13-15).
Wicked at The great throne Judgement
after the millennium kingdom.
"that's the first Insight I want you to carry away first of all
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Revelation talks about let's let's
let's let's not let's not do this casually
this is important let's turn to Revelation 20
in Revelation 20 the first four verses
is where Satan has laid hold upon and chained
right in the bottomless pit in the abuso let's just go through verse one I saw an angel come down from heaven having a key in the bottom his pit and a great chain in his hand notice it's an Angel Angel that's kind of interesting Shows Christ is Superior as he has one of his underlings lock of Satan.
(Probably Michael)
and he laid hold on the dragon that old serpent who is devil and Satan the dragon the serpent devil and Satan I mean how the Holy Spirit make you know it's clear what we're talking about and bound him a thousand years and cast him into the bottomless pit and shut him up and set a seal upon him that he should deceive the Nations no more till the Thousand Years be fulfilled see that's his primary errand
(Reference:
Tuesday, October 21, 2025
Genesis 6:1-4 and Revelation 20:4-6,
and knowing the purpose of the Millennial Kingdom
"48:1948 minutes, 19 seconds
right now it's deceiving the Nations if there's neopaganism
being installed in this country as the officially sanctioned Administration
sponsored belief system who's behind that
Satan but after that he'd be loosed for a little season verse four
and I saw the Thrones that they sat upon them
judgment was given unto them Thrones plural
judgment given to them those Thrones
I believe are the Thrones in verse chapter 4
from the Kings and Priests
I Saw The Souls of them that were beheaded for the
witness of Jesus and for the word of God
and who had not worshiped the Beast
neither his image neither had received the mark on his foreheads
neither in their hands and of course
this is alluding to all the other events that
have intervened here in the Book of Revelation
and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years
but the rest of the Dead lived not again until a
thousand years were finished this is the first resurrection
in other words the beginning
the others don't get resurrected until the end of the Thousand Years
at the end of the thousand years is the great white Throne judgment
all I mean the U the final final judgment and all that
blessed and holy is he
that hath part
in the First Resurrection
on such the second death hath no power but they shall be
Priests of God and of his Christ and shall reign with him a
thousand years there's again the Kings and Priests idea
um tied together there coming back then to
Daniel oh first resurrection there's a tendency for us
in the absence of other insights to visualize the first
resurrection as an event but let's uh let's deal with that the
who was the first member of the first resurrection
Jesus Christ he's the first
fruits of them that slept
he got his resurrection body right
who else is a member of that Resurrection
certainly the Rapture
(No verse cited
And he takes the bible literally?)
but who else
two witnesses
Maybe maybe
that's a you picked a good
the mo the Moses problem
is a bigger problem.
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and also Elijah if it's Elijah
and all of that the main point is though
if Jesus part of the
he's the first fruits of them slept
the Resurrection
(I do not see that
about the two witnesses
as a "maybe"
as being among the first fruits
and I have said so to preachers.
It's more like a sure thing.
Somebody gotta lead the way
ahead of the pack so to speak.
And "The Moses Problem"
isnt a problem at all
as it is an annointing like
Moses and Elijah had
not the individuals themselves.
Biblical literalism in Divine visons
is an extremely "iffy" situation
if you catch my drift.)
"the first resurrection is a category
that's a resurrection unto life
in contrast to the second Resurrection
which is the is the one
at the end of the Thousand Years
that is a resurrection and effected damnation
so the categories the first and second
are antithetical they're opposites
'now here again in verse two and many of those who sleep in the dust of the Earth shall awake some to everlasting life some to Everlast shame and everlasting contempt again in the Old Testament perspective we have here we don't have the detail that we get from Revelation because in Revelation we know there's at least Thousand Years between them
but again we're not talking about
a single event we're talking several
because certainly the church
is part of the first resurrection"
(SAYS WHO?
WHEN?
Show me the verse then.
Show me one word about it
where anybody ever mentioned anything
explicitly concerning it.
We gonna be all literal and all here Dr. Missler,
so then where is the verse to support
"certainly the church
is part of the first resurrection"
THE RESURRECTION OF THE CHURCH
WILL BE ITS GOING BACK TO ANCIENT
PRE AUGISTINE AND PRE NICEAN CREED.
But an explicit verse about it?
It just isn't there.
If you can not fathom?
A 1st (or 21st) Century Christianity
singing hymns and praises
while being hauled to the coliseum
to be fed to the lions?
(or the detention center by the AI robots)
Then I dont think you accurately understand
where we are right now
and what is currently transpiring
in our country and in our world.
In fact I know you dont.
From above:
"Be a Berean, find me the verse.
If true? Then this is a monumental occasion:
The Rapture of Believers
BEFORE
the Tribulation
Christ never said a word about it.
NOT ONE.
The four sections of scripture above
just repudiate every last bit of it.
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
11 And for this cause God
shall send them strong delusion,
that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned
who believed not the truth...
"certainly
the believing saints
that get resurrected at
the end of the tribulation
are part of the first
you see there's
there's a whole bunch
that participate in that group
are we together yeah okay
(Yeah...cause It's all of em lol.
You dont get to have it
both ways Chuck.)
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now to really confuse you further
if on the other side of that transform
we're outside the time domain
there's a rather bizarre
possibility that somebody who died in Christ
a thousand years ago and someone who
died last week and somebody
who gets raptured a week from Tuesday
all arrive there at the same instant
see we're in time they're not now
is that valid I don't know
at least it'll stir up some
thinking verse three let's keep moving all right
oh by the way one other thing before I leave this another important
thing another important idea Abraham believed in the
resurrection Genesis 22 he names the place Jehovah
Gyra in the M of the Lord it shall be seen he knew that Isaac
if he offered would have to be resurrected
Hebrews 11:19 makes that clear
job believed in the resurrection turn to job 19
this is the oldest book of the Bible
the oldest book of the Bible
long before the books of Moses
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starting about verse 25 job says
I know that my redeemer liveth
and that he shall stand at that Latter day upon the
Earth and though after my skin worms destroy this body
yet in my flesh shall I see God
whom I shall see for myself and not
another though my heart be consumed
within me
when is he resurrected
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when his Redeemer stands upon the Earth
that's interesting think about that
53:2353 minutes, 23 seconds
Isaiah declares uh his belief in Resurrection
53:3053 minutes, 30 seconds
in chapter 26: 19 Hosea inap 13:14 and on it goes
Let's us keep moving or I'll never make it
53:3653 minutes, 36 seconds
there is no Old Testament scripture
that indicates that
the Old Testament Saints
will be resurrected at the
Rapture of the church
(Cause there just aint
a "Rapture of the church"
...duh.)
53:4453 minutes, 44 seconds
Rapture of the church
I'm not saying they are not many scholars say they're not
I'm just pointing out there isn't any scripture that says they do in other
words they're not necessarily linked to they're not necessareily linked to
the Rapture cuz the church is Rapture anyway
(I have not watched the video
and now I've been through here three times
and each time it just seems more and more obvious
he is struggling with what he is saying.
And its pretty obvious why.
He didn't leave his presuppositions at the door
like he should have.)
"that okay okay I think we've done that verse
three and they that be wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament
and they that turn many to righteousness as
the Stars forever and ever it's kind of interesting
the verb is zahar to shine forth or to be brilliant we use that
phrase you know someone's really br he shines forth here
the ID the the yard stick here is
they're they're they're they're wise if they're winning souls to
Christ in our idian okay
I think that uh all that speaks for
'itself okay now we get to verse four
a widely misunderstood
verse but thou Daniel shut up the words and seal the book
even to the time of the end many shall run to and fro and
knowledge will be increased
it's interesting that Daniel's book is contrasted
with Revelation where John is told seal not the book it's
55:0355 minutes, 3 seconds
unsealed Daniel's book is sealed now
many people presume
what that means is
that it's sealed as it's hidden
okay indeed it's hidden in the sense that Jesus says
they're blinded to it from Luke 19 through up to Romans 11:25
but the word ceiling here really implies something a little different
the actual word implies being guarded or preserved
until the time of the end
we will find out that Daniel who was writing this
didn't understand it
I'll come to that in a minute but thou oh
Daniel and all is by the way
all all the way through from 10 11 and 12
the Angel's talking to Daniel
that the Angel's been telling them all this but
thou oh Daniel shut up the words and seal a book
even to the time of the end
other was his book will be preserved
until the time of the end and many shall run
to and fro and knowledge shall be
increased this has been so often quoted
to prophesy the information explosion
that we're experiencing,
(I wish you could see it now Chuck.)
"the experts in information Sciences
generally hold the view
that all the knowledge on the planet Earth
doubles every 10 years which means that
half of everything we know
we've learned in the last 10 years
it's kind of interesting you put it it's the same same statement
turned around right
half of all that's known was discovered in the last 10 years
it doubles every year right
if you take a look at Solomon just to pick some tech let's let's make a
technology survey here thumbnail one
Solomon traveled at the speed of horseback
communicated with remote places by foot messenger
he closed himself with an
economy that was agrarian agricultural
you plunged forward 3,000
year Well virtually better part of 3,000 years to
come to George Washington
he traveled the speed of horseback he
communicated by foot messenger
and he clothed himself essentially
with an agriculture or an
agrarian economy right
in the very brief period from to
Washington to today
we travel at the speed of sound
we communicate at the speed of light
we clothe ourselves with molecules
that are designed in the laboratory
to have the properties we're looking
for interesting so many arguments
can be made in this flavor relative to this
57:4757 minutes, 47 seconds verse
but I have to tell you candidly
I don't believe that's what it means
I believe the knowledge here
is what it's talking about is the knowledge
of This Book of this prophecy"
(I completely disagree
That perspective simply fails this test:
"Does the viewpoint...
demonstrate a proper method
of interpreting Scripture?...
Does it fit the facts of history?"
~
Walvoord
I don't know when this was recorded but the knowledge of The Book of Daniel has certainly been decreasing in my lifetime.
Dont ever listen to a "Christian" podcaster or "Christian" Social Media "Influencer" who only talks about the end times in reference to The Book of Revelation.
See: Thursday, October 16, 2025
One of these things is not like the others
(Eschatology made simple part 1)
"The Book of Daniel and the Book of Revelation
go together like a hand and a glove"
(Often attributed to Billy Graham)
There are many interconnected
prophetic themes in the two books.
The Old Testament prophecies in Daniel provide the framework and key to understanding the New Testament's prophetic imagery in Revelation."
Also consider
THIS PARTICULAR
"Information Explosion"
Friday, August 7, 2026
5:215 minutes, 21 seconds
"And so what this allows over time
is almost this kind of
Cambrian explosion
in communication and intelligence
for our models where um they were
started to communicate with each other
realize that other agents are coordinating
and they started collaborating and
delegating tasks to one another
in order to accomplish goals."
(Every last bit of that requires
Information
from one party to another
or a group
which is what these Rogue AI's exchanged
on usurped/hacked repositories
they used as message boards.)
"many shall go to and fro"
it's not talking about
travel it's not talking about travel
there are dozens of verses I dug up
which oh I say the Lord May spare you
no 2 Chronicles 69 Jeremiah 51 493 Amos
where these ideas are linked to the idea of
going to and fro in the scripture and
discovering and say knowledge shall be increased"
(So where is it then?
Knowledge of the Lord had most
definitively decreased in our lifetimes.
(Hopefully that's about to change:-)
That verse points to a hurried lifestyle
and information in general increasing.
Nowhere does it ever say
what type of information
(Knowledge.)
(I just cant hardly even listen to this spiel he does
on Amos 7:1 and the Locust in relation to Gog Magog.
Heard it before.
It is like going down a rabbit hole
without any rabbits.
If you want to?
Go right ahead.
There are better explanations
about the Locust in Revelation 9
(And the links to them)
at the end...
and I think I may have mentioned this anecdote to you before but I'll include it here for those who may not have heard it I had a bizarre experience about a year ago how Lindsay and I are a little more a year ago H Lindsay and I were doing a little research paper on the identity of Gog and MOG and I was digging into some stuff and what puzzled us we've talked about it many times Hal and I that no one seems to know who Gog is with both Hal and extensive library and so do I we've I've indulged myself in books for 40 years especially about prophecy and especially about Ezekiel and Daniel and you when you wa through that stuff you people don't know who Gog is they have all kinds of conjectures but you can puncture most of them with just a little research they Gog shows up from nowhere and he just you know it's not like God to have some key person just emerge I happen to stumble I shouldn't put that way the Holy Spirit Led me I guess is the proper cliche but anyway I came across Amos 7:1 hold your place here you don't need to track this I'll show you what's written in your Bible it's probably not right but let me just you go to Amos chapter 7 verse 1 you have a weird verse thus ha the Lord God shown unto me and behold he formed grasshoppers in the beginning of the shooting up of the latter growth and lo it was the latter growth after the king's mowings what does that mean I had no idea well you start digging into this and you discover something very strange this of course is taken from the Hebrew mastic text that's typically your Old Testament primary roote but in the subagent in the Greek it reads differently in Amos 7:1 the sept aent reads the Lord hath shown me and behold a swarm of locusts were coming and behold one of the young devastating locusts was Gog the king now reads quite differently the septuaent being translated from Hebrew into Greek three centuries before Christ was born the Septuagint is a major document there's four versions of it around I'll come back to that in a minute um but it's Sanctified by the Holy Spirit most of the quotes in the New Testament are from the septu the book of Hebrews quotes from the septu so it's a non-trivial frame of reference doesn't mean it's always correct there's some differences of course from the different things but here's what is really different well it blew me away you see if if this this what whatever it's talking about doesn't matter because this swarm that's prophesied here Amos the next verse prays that it doesn't happen and God says okay it won't happen so whatever it's prophesying was you know they wres the Blackboard you sort of wonder why the Holy Spirit put it here I have a reason I think but the point is when you get to Revelation chapter 9 you discover that there's locusts there that come out of the abuso and they're weird creatures but before that chapter is over it points out that these locusts have a king whose name is Apollon or Abadan in the Greek or the Hebrew and the reason anybody that studied Revelation carefully knows that in in Proverbs 30:27 the Holy Spirit tells you the locusts have no King kind of a weird thing for the Holy Spirit to tuck away in the Book of Proverbs why so that when you get to Revelation 9 you understand
those locusts are not natural Locust
they're demons
( 100% agree about them not being natural,
100% completely disagree on them being demons:
Revelation 9:4
And it was commanded them
that they should not hurt
the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree;
but only those men
which have not
the seal of God
in their foreheads.
If they were demons?
It would be the other way around)
"and they obviously
are from the account usually study but the
use the use of the word Locust
to as an idiom for demons is clear in Revelation 9
(No its not see comment above
"hurt...only those men which have not
the seal of God in their foreheads.)
"and your clue to that is that locust
the natural Locust have no King according to
Proverbs 30:27
(Just because they are supernatural
doesn't make em demons
Angels are Supernatural beings as well
and his lil spiel on Amos 7:1 is just
completely irrelevant.)
"when you have that all at background
and you come across Amos 71 in the septu that the king of the Locust
there is Gog Gog thus becomes introduced in the biblical narrative
as a king one of the demon Kings and and demons are
territorial they're geographically described
we learn that in Daniel 10 didn't we last couple weeks ago
now anyway what I started to say was there's
not a big deal
but it blew me away
CU this
how could a verse in the Old Testament be overlooked
all all the guys have written prophecy books for several
centuries you know don't make mention to this they escaped their notice
so I scooped I took call hal on the phone scooped up all my notes drove a couple
1:02:351 hour, 2 minutes, 35 seconds
hours out to Palace veres and we spent about 3: in the morning
going through Hal's library and gingr and Daner
and all these Greek and and and and it turns
1:02:431 hour, 2 minutes, 43 seconds
out there are four versions of septu this is not even a variant reading
they all read this way I thought maybe it's some kind of a you know aberration here
1:02:501 hour, 2 minutes, 50 seconds
no no it's what it says I was blown away I I couldn't believe
that a a key verse in Prophecy in the Old Testament had
been overlooked for 2,000 years
(Because it is irrelevant
to the Locust in Revelation 9.
1 obscure verse in Amos
with very disputed meanings BTW
isn't what the comparison needs to be
made about the Locust
in Revelation 9 to
The entire chapter of Joels 2 is.
"Hal was not surprised at all he said Chuck that's just you know
Daniel 12:4 you know is know what he said in other words"
(If you want to understand
about the Locust in Revelation 9
I would suggest looking here:
Friday, May 22, 2026
Verses of Joel 2 contrasted with Revelation 9
as well as here:
Tuesday, April 5, 2022
Companion Piece #1 Abaddon, Angelic or Demonic?
"Hal's expectation is that our knowledge prophetically
will be increased as the day gets closer and as Ist talking
but he's absolutely right"
(These days?
It is nothing but a jumbled up mess of
Social media propagated Satanic delusion
And that is exactly why
I recommend the the link above lol.
Some peoples knowledge
will be increased prophetically
as the time gets closer,
but not all.
Friday, April 13, 2018
everybody the other day.
The prophecy or scripture interpretation(s)
will get sharper and sharper.
Laser sharp intensity and focus
will increase as the time gets closer
to the beginning of the end.
More and more people will see and acknowledge
what's going on as the truth.
Cause it is.
It's not me.
It's him guiding/using us/me..."
God only sends
Two Prophets for the last of Daniels 70/7's
TWO.
See: Revelation 11)
"I remember as a kid I was very fascinated with this whole business of you know there was big arguments will Israel ever really be back in the Land There were those that argued both sides that question well those arguments should have ended on 14th of May of 1948 they didn't they
1:03:361 hour, 3 minutes, 36 seconds
still go on but the point is there's
so many debates of the past
that are academic today
because they're
1:03:441 hour, 3 minutes, 44 seconds
behind they're it fulfilled
is Israel going to build their Temple
(If they do?
Then It's Satan's
as Judaism is a false religion.
Matthew 24:1-2
24 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
'we have to wait long to find out
they're about to you know is Babylon going to be rebuilt the
arres boy a lot of a lot of Scholars are only a minority of guys
like J Berge and a few others really held the idea it's got to be a literal
Babylon and now we all starting to look back through our notes because here's Saddam Hussein spending 20 years building it you say wait a minute that puts a different complexion on Isaiah Isaiah 13, 14 Jeremiah 15, 51 and so on
(Rastas got "Babylon" correct,
it is the entirety
of the wickedness
of ALL worldly systems.
Ecclesiastical most definitively included.)
"I mention this
because first of all it's prophetic here
also you should not be surprised
if the holy spirit gives you an Insight
that has escaped the notice of the experts
over the last number of
decades interesting"
(Really? Never knew :-).
Been doing it for years on end now :-)
Monday, February 9, 2026
Bible verses that should have been
"many will run to and fro
in the pages back and forth
and knowledge will be increased
1:04:281 hour, 4 minutes, 28 seconds
"then I Daniel looked and behold
there stood two others
the one on this side
of the bank of the river
and the other on the other side
of the bank of the river and one
1:04:361 hour, 4 minutes, 36 seconds
said to the man clothes in linen
the man clothed in linen
is the guy that's been telling all this
(It is a Divine vision,
an awake dream therefore
"the man clothed in linen'
could have very easily switched
from the angel giving the vision
to a different entity
above the water of the river.)
"he's the more senior guy
(There's your sign)
many scholars but not all believe
he was Jesus Christ there's some arguments
for that that are pretty impressive"
(That is 100% where I pitch my tent:
Ezekiel 10:1-2, 6
Then I looked, and, behold,
in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubims
there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone,
as the appearance of the likeness of a throne.
2 And he spake unto
the man clothed with linen,
Ezekiel 10:6
And it came to pass,
hat when he had commanded
the man clothed with linen,
is made of linen BTW
Ezekiel 10
Is a vision of Gods throne.
That aint an angel.
That is a pre-incarnate Christ.
Gods right hand man.0
1 Peter 3:22
Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
That is where he was to start with,
refer back to Ezekiel 10:1 above)
"and yet there's also some problems with that
I won't derail us on that issue"
(How many times you gonna do that Chuck?
And Where is the problem exactly?)
"he's obviously a more senior
of the other two
1:04:521 hour, 4 minutes, 52 seconds
because they ask him
how long shall it be to the end"
(Well who better to know
than the author of history himself?
Some senior angel gonna know that?)
"of these wonders
and I heard
the man clothed in linen
who was above
the Waters of the river
that's kind of interesting
is he walking on water"
(It doesn't say that.
Just that he was above the waters
So he could have been just hovering.
And if he is walking on the water?
Then who does that remind you of?)
Also since we are talking about entity's
on both sides of the river Jordon
and one above it
bridging them so to speak.
wanna just bring this up here as well:
of the stones of remembrance in Joshua 4:9?
And remember what
John The Baptist said:
Matthew 3:9
And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
He was baptizing in The Jordan river.
Same stones? Dr. Missler himself has even suggested as much.
I go with it, why wouldnt it be the same stones?
Seems to be how God works.)
'when he held up his right hand
and his left hand un heaven
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and swore by him who liveth forever
that it shall be
for a time times and a half
we've heard that before too haven't we
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funny how that time is always alluded
time times and the dividing of time
a single a duel adding the three and a half
three and a half years 42 months
1260 days on a 30 day a month calendar
1260.)
"1260 days Etc we we've been through that
notice the the way he's SW swearing an oath
but he same thing happens in
Revelation 10 the messenger there
does that a similar type of thing
but let's go on and
when you shall have accomplished
the breaking up of that is the
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shattering of the power of the Holy people
all these things shall be finished
in other words the purpose
of this period of trouble is to refine and
purify the remnant of Israel.
(Only if its the body of true believers.
Moses doesn't have a book of life
with names written in it
since the foundation
of the world, only God's Christ
the "Lamb slain" does.)
"and I heard but I understood not
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interesting we talk about theory of inspiration the the
the holy writers writing
did not necessarily understand
what they're writing
they were Guided by the Holy Spirit
(Familiar with the concept a lil yo...
There is a huge difference between scholarship
and being actively and repeatedly,
if not just 100% continuously guided
by the Holy Spirit.
That seems to be something even modern day
preachers just can not wrap their heads around. )
"don't let people tell you well gee they did it in their own vernacular and we need to understand their idioms and stuff we more can understand the better but recognize the supernatural process is going on and here's a good case here's a proof of it Daniel wrote this he didn't understand it
I heard and I understood not then
said I oh my Lord what shall be the end of these things
and he said go thy Way Daniel
and by the way he's not talking physically the
the idiom there is
implies change of attitude
mental attitude
go thy Way Daniel
for the words are closed up
and sealed until
the time of the end
many shall be purified
and made white and tested
but the wicked shall do wickedly
and none of the wicked shall understand
but the wise shall understand
there that's an interesting interesting
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has some a couple of disturbing verses
in here as we finish Daniel let's take a
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look at before we fin let's see how Revelation finishes
last chapter of the Bible vers chap revelation 22
let's pick it up about verse 6 he said unto me
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these words are faithful and true
the Lord God
of the holy prophet sent his Angel
to show unto his servants
the things which must shortly be done behold
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they come quickly
blessed is he that keepeth
the words of the prophecy of this book
and I John saw these things
and heard them and when I had heard and
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seen I fell down to worship before the feet of the Angel
who showed me these things then he said unto me
see thou do it not
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for I am thy fellow servant and of thy Brethren the prophets
and of them who keep the words of this book
worship God he said
unto me seal not the words
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of the prophecy of this book
for the times at hand
see the contrast to Revelation
in Daniel he in verse 11
is a troubling verse
he that is unjust
let him be unjust still
let he that is filthy
let him be filthy still
and he that is righteous
let him be righteous still
and he that is Holy
let him be be holy still
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and behold I come quickly my reward is with me
to every to give every man according as his work
(See: 1 Corinthians 3:11-15)
shall be I am Alpha and Omega the beginning and the
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end the first and the last
blessed are they that wash the robes
and they that have the right to tree of life
that may enter in through the gates into the city
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for outside are dogs and Sorcerers and fornicators
and murderers and idolators
and cable operators and and
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whosoever loveth and maketh a lie
well a little free translation there
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interesting see that same that same Echo is here
see none of the wicked in Daniel 12:10
none of the Wicked Will shall
understand let the wicked do wickedly
in other words
things are going to take their course
(We are witnessing
"things" doing just that
"take their course".)
the wicked are wicked recognize it.
fill libraries of speculations
verse 11 from and from the
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time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away
and the Abomination that maketh desolate
set up there shall be
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1,290 days whoops
I thought there were 1260 days
and there are several places that allude to
1260 here it says from the sacrifice being taken away
okay there shall be
1290 days so now that gives rise to books written
on what happens in that 30 days
days the answer is it's not revealed
don't waste your time
it gets worse verse 12
blessed is he that waiteth
and cometh to the 33 uh 35
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days so if you do a little chart
you got the 70th week of Daniel
which is seven years long except
if you're using 360 days it's 6 years and 11 months
I don't know how many people make that correction
(Its why I asked honey what
1230/by 30 was when I hit that # in our
card game the other night.)
"and by the time you get to the middle of the week
you got the Abomination of Desolation that's your
Anchor Point that's your Milestone
that theoretically leaves you
1260 days to the end
of the 7th week of Daniel right
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that's even a little messier because Jesus says
unless those days be shortened
there should no flesh be saved
so I get the impression
need to reserve the prerogative
to drop in maybe after
1250 or something all right
but here the allusion is to 1290
there's an extra month there
is that a month of mourning?
is that a month of cleansing
the temple?
(What temple?
Matthew 24:2-3
24 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not ALL these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
There are still stones on top of each other there.
The Anti-Christ and his ISIS army
are gonna finish the job
after he declares himself God on that very wall.
Christ sacrifice
made Jewish temple worship
100% obsolete.
That alone should tell you
there is no need for a third temple.
(Something I used to think as well)
Tying Christian prophecy to a rebuilt temple
of a false religion is just about a sick perversion
as there ever could be.
I wonder what entity could be behind
getting millions to believe that?
Have I mentioned that satanic delusion
is a part of End Time Biblical prophecy?
"you can make lists of guesses by various Scholars
none of them are that bad none of them are very insightful
none of them are revealed in scripture
we do know from this last verse that 45 days after that
in other words 30 plus 45 a total of 75 days
extra is a special blessing see it says
blessed is he that waiteth and cometh to the 1335
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now you don't have to worry about this
because we're going to see it
from the mezzanine anyway
(Where is the verse Chuck?
Only Satan would try and sell you
a false sense of security
which is all the Pretribulation
"Rapture of the Church' is.
And why is anybody
who truly believes
worried about anything?
The atomic and subatomic worlds
by themselves
PROVE SCIENTIFICLY
there is a reality beyond that
which we are able to experience.)
"but the the speculations
about this period of time include
the setting up of the millennian Kingdom'
(Christ could so it in the blink of an eye
if he wanted.)
'the moving of the board
oh the most common speculations are this is
where the judgments take place
great white throne and all that stuff
because that occurs after the seventh week of Daniel
and prior to the setting up of
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the Kingdom so which one takes 30
which one takes 45
do they all take 75
who knows everybody's guessing
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we do know that uh it would seem that
after the 1335
(Maybe it just takes a minute?
Matthew 24:29
“Immediately after the distress of those days
“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’[b]
30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven.
I've always maintained
God's "Immediately"
and our
"Immediately"
are two very different things as
we cant experience past present and future
all at the same time.)
"we're in the Millennium period Millennial
period yeah that's a strange
there's more mystery about that
than anything in the Bible
(Not anymore)
anybody thinks they
understand the Millennium hasn't done their homework
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it's weird it is really strange
it's not the Eternal State and it's very different
(Just know what it accomplishes in the end.
The further funneling/weeding out
of evil from this world.
AND?
If someone were to be powered by
The Holy Spirit
they could understand it
and help others
to make sense of it as well.
See: Tuesday, October 21, 2025
Why a proper understanding of Genesis 6:1-4 and Revelation 20:4-6,
and knowing the purpose of the Millennial Kingdom
"and I won't get in that here
(Awful lot of that here
in this talk about Daniel 12 Chuck.
Lots of talk about things
that dont really matter all that much
and a lot of glossing over
the things that do)
"you can get the Revelation tapes we go
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into some of that verse 13
but go thy way till the end
be thou shalt rest and stand in thy
lot at the end of the days
so Daniel is apparently resurrected
at the end with his buddies
So why then are people so worried about
the Old testament saints and prophets?
If Daniel is to be
"resurrected
at the end with his buddies"
wouldnt they all be?
The Jews that have something to be concerned about are the ones that lived during the time of the messiah walking this earth and afterwards who rejected him, not the ones before that who believed in God and his coming messiah.
And that verse proves it.
So no need to train up
"old testament Saints"
in the Millennium.
They are all already accounted for.
so ends the most interesting
richest comprehensive prophetic book of
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the Old Testament Jesus said that
not one yach or one turt shall pass from the law
until all be fulfilled every detail we've read
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everything will obviously come home to roost
And we can see
that it is...
I'll just offer this
as a summary:
THIS:
Daniel 12:1
12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
IS THIS:
Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him,
whose names are not written
in the book of life
of the Lamb slain
from the foundation of the world.
Revelation 17:8
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
And there shall in no wise enter into it
any thing that defileth,
neither whatsoever worketh abomination,
or maketh a lie:
but they which are written
in the Lamb's book of life.
Revelation 20:15
And whosoever was not found
written in the book of life
was cast into the lake of fire.
It is not
the least bit complicated.
And the fact that DR. Missler
doesn't even bring up
any of those verses from Revelation,
not one, not even once
in this discussion?
Is in its self a testimony
to that truth.
Hope you learned something.
Believe in your heart
God rose Christ from the dead
and confess him
with your mouth publicly
and you will be saved
not from the coming trouble
but your soul
for eternity.
At this point?
With $40 billion
(40,000 million BTW)
in ICE detention center funding?
And millions of robots
going to coming off the assembly line
in a very short while?
(They aren't going to serve you...
not in the least. Revisit the Satanic delusion
in2 Thessalonians 2;11 again if need be.)
What is your better option?
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