Tuesday, November 29, 2022

" Haggai" notes.

 

“Not an economic crisis but a collapse, depression a picnic compared…”Chairman of FED Jerome Powell says shortly after, “No one knows whether there's going to be a recession or not, and if so how bad that recession would be.

I show a chart showing bank of England interest rates flatlining after financial crisis and state that QE was an experiment that nobody knew how it was gonna work out and now we know and the very next week? Three articles, Foreign Policy, Financial times and Bloomberg.

Raise questions about Ukrainians air defenses and shortly thereafter comes the RUSI (Royal United Services Institute) does there piece explaining what happened (Poked holes in it, makes no sense, gave no sources)

Army Captain Campbell, given his previous positions knows a lot about Russian strategy/tatctics but his assertion that Russia “switched to” a war of attrition strategy just flies in the face of common sense given, selling $’s, buying gold, developing weapons and insulating their economy. Somebody was saying from day 3 or 4 that’s what they were doing.

That’s four things somebody is saying AHEAD of the pack. Lives in a garage , no TV no internet. Only internet I get is at library of hitting free WIFI, you might want to stop and ask your self, “How is that possible?...So glad you asked…Lets go examine the book of Haggai a lil…Yes, Haggai…


Haggai Verses 

Haggai 1:5-6

New International Version

5 Now this is what the Lord Almighty says: “Give careful thought to your ways. 6 You have planted much, but harvested little. You eat, but never have enough. You drink, but never have your fill. You put on clothes, but are not warm. You earn wages, only to put them in a purse with holes in it.”

Haggai 1:14

1:14, And the Lord stirred up the spirit of Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and the spirit of Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, and the spirit of all the remnant of the people; and they came and did work in the house of the Lord of hosts, their God, 

2 Haggai 2:6-9

King James Version

6 For thus saith the Lord of hosts; Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land; 

7 And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, 8 The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the Lord of hosts. 

9 The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the Lord of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the Lord of hosts.

Haggai 2:11-14

11 “This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘Ask the priests what the law says: 12 If someone carries consecrated meat in the fold of their garment, and that fold touches some bread or stew, some wine, olive oil or other food, does it become consecrated?’ ”The priests answered, “No.” 13 Then Haggai said, “If a person defiled by contact with a dead body touches one of these things, does it become defiled?” “Yes,” the priests replied, “it becomes defiled.”14 Then Haggai said, “‘So it is with this people and this nation in my sight,’ declares the Lord. ‘Whatever they do and whatever they offer there is defiled.

Haggai 2:23

2:23 In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the Lord, and will make thee as a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith the Lord of hosts.



Haggai commentary/exposistion/ exegesis etc…

Haggai 1:5-6

New International Version

5 Now this is what the Lord Almighty says: “Give careful thought to your ways. 6 You have planted much, but harvested little. You eat, but never have enough. You drink, but never have your fill. You put on clothes, but are not warm. You earn wages, only to put them in a purse with holes in it.” 

(Think about your country, think about the Colorado river drying up, think about inflation, think about never being content w what we have)


Haggai 1:14

And the Lord stirred up the spirit of Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and the spirit of Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, and the spirit of all the remnant of the people; and they came and did work in the house of the Lord of hosts, their God.

Joshua/Zerubbabel Gods chosen for a very specific task, (Rebuild the temple) put his spirit in them and the people. Two witnesses? Same thing, made Gods representatives on earth for a very specific task and put his spirit in them. (His outpouring of his spirit on these two will announce the end times and awaken his dead and lethargic people just as it did back in the day to get the temple rebuilt.)

Christ was a Priest after the order of Melchizedek (Psalm 110:4; The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek. Hebrews7:17 For he testified, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedec… Not a Levite, no order of priest yet, during Melchizedecs time, no nation of Israel yet Abraham gave him 10% of his spoils of war after defeating the armies of the plain and recusing Lot. No lineage, no pedigree, no affiliation, no genealogy to make him as such and yet he was a king and a priest, and here we have what? A king and a priest. “Raised up” his spirit in them...two witnesses, Breathed the breath of life into them Rev 11:11 see vs in.

Rev 11:11-13

11 But after the three and a half days the breath[b] of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.

13 At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.

(The Spiritual reverberates in the material remember that)


2 Haggai 2:6-9

King James Version

6 For thus saith the Lord of hosts; Yet once, it is a little while, and I will shake the heavens, and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land; (1x event

(Yet once, an end to our worldly systems, lil while, 500+ years after this Christ was born, in a lil while, all will dissolve as well, shake the heavens and the earth, (earth he did at his birth (metaphorically some might say) death and resurrection…Ellicott’s commentary for English readers…”the period between the present and the predicted great change of the world will be but one period—i.e., one uniform epoch—and that this epoch will be a brief one.”… “There is yet to be an interval of time, of limited duration, and then shall come a new era, when the glory of God’s presence shall be manifested more fully and extensively.” It happened when he came the first time, it will be more fully realized on his return…Points to bothn his 1st coming and his second at the same time, God doesn’t experience time in a linear fashion, it past present and future all at the same time, How? Because he created it that’s how…

7 And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations shall come: and I will fill this house with glory, 

Just as Christ coming was greater than that of Moses, so will the end be better than what was, Just as nations were shaken at his birth so shall they be at his return. The desire of all nations shall come (Christ, 1st and 2nd time)

 Hebrews 12:25-29

New International Version

25 See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from him who warns us from heaven? 26 At that time his voice shook the earth, but now he has promised, “Once more I will shake not only the earth but also the heavens.”[a] 27 The words “once more” indicate the removing of what can be shaken—that is, created things—so that what cannot be shaken may remain.

28 Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, 29 for our “God is a consuming fire.”[b] 

( Detour 2nd Peter 3:1-12 “Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. (Split in Catholic church, Germany, split in Methodist church, Bro Joes rev bible studt, Homosexuality will split the church into 2 factions in end times) 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.[a]

11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. [b] That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.

“At that time his voice shook the earth”(Hebrews12:26)…Noah, Flood, but it wasn’t the end, the next time he destroys the earth will be indicative of his sons return and it will shake the heavens and the earth this time.

We need to remember There is the same play being played out on two stages, one’s material, one’s spiritual.( 2 different expansion rates of the universe, neither can be reconciled, what happens in the spiritual realm affects or  the physical. The two different stages “bump” into each other…Bible encyclopedia, Angels etc…) Basic Christian beliefs talks about the resurrection and how that played out in the spiritual (death defeated) and we a saw the lingering affects here on earth.)

Haggai 2:8 The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the Lord of hosts. (I love you more than gold or silver” As the deer. “Don’t gain the world and loose your soul, wisdom is more precious than silver or gold…etc…)

Haggai 2: 9 The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the Lord of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the Lord of hosts.

Revelation 21:3-4 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’[a] or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

(Revelation 21:23 KJV And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.)  saith the Lord of hosts. (Angels) “Present glory greater than former My Bible? New Jerusalem.”…1st time ever reading it.


Haggai 2:11-14

11 “This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘Ask the priests what the law says: 12 If someone carries consecrated meat in the fold of their garment, and that fold touches some bread or stew, some wine, olive oil or other food, does it become consecrated? ’”The priests answered, “No.” 13 Then Haggai said, “If a person defiled by contact with a dead body touches one of these things, does it become defiled?” “Yes,” the priests replied, “it becomes defiled.”14 Then Haggai said, “‘So it is with this people and this nation in my sight,’ declares the Lord. ‘Whatever they do and whatever they offer there is defiled.

Sanctity (the state or quality of being holy, sacred, or saintly) is not transferable from one individual to the next it’s gift of God), defilement  (the act of making something foul, dirty, or unclean) is, 


Haggai 2:23 In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, will I take thee, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the Lord, and will make thee as a signet: for I have chosen thee, saith the Lord of hosts.

Servants have any choice to do anything except what their master expects? Jude was a servant, Paul was a servant (Romans 1:1, Jude, a servant of Christ…well guess what? Us too…😊. That’s a play on words BTW and a big one…you’ll see. Vs 23 only speaks to Zerubbabel, others had spoke to both Zerubbabel and Joshua…Interesting… ‘I have chosen thee” many are called few are chosen…Matthew 22:14

“Make thee as a signet…”

Reverses the curse on Zerubbabel grandfather (Jeremiah 22:23-25) …Oh…reverses the curse…Interesting…

Jeremiah 22:23-25

New American Bible (Revised Edition)

23 You who dwell on Lebanon, who nest in the cedars, How you shall groan when pains come upon you,  like the pangs of a woman in childbirth!

24 As I live—oracle of the Lord—even if you, Coniah,[a] son of Jehoiakim, king of Judah, were a signet ring on my right hand, I would snatch you off. 25 I will hand you over to those who seek your life, to those you dread: Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, and the Chaldeans. (Chinese and the Russians? For us, and yes he did, it was, Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, and the Chaldeans. Who had destroyed the temple to start with…

Revelation 22:3

3 No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be within the city, and His servants will worship Him

Footnotes NABRE

Jeremiah 22:24 Coniah: a shortened form of Jeconiah, the name Jeremiah gives King Jehoiachin (cf. 24:1). A signet ring: the seal used by kings and other powerful figures—a symbol of their power and status—mounted in a ring worn constantly on the hand. The Lord says that even were Jehoiachin such a precious possession, he would reject him. Hg 2:23 uses the same imagery to signal the restoration of Zerubbabel. The words in Jer 22:24–30 date from the short three-month reign of Jehoiachin, before he was deported by Nebuchadnezzar.

Footnotes Haggai 2:23 

2:23 Like a signet ring: this promise to Zerubbabel reverses the punishment of his grandfather (Jer 22:23–25). A signet is a ring or other instrument used to mark documents or materials with the equivalent of an official signature. A lower official could thus be authorized to act on behalf of a higher official. Like a signet ring, Zerubbabel represents the Lord. (Singular not 


 My Mendenhall Reference bible references two other verses:, The NABRE and Biblegateway.com didn’t, Biblehub.com did and some others, I stick with my Mendenenhall (shock wave and all)and what it references and it said these two:

Isaiah 42:1, New American Bible (Revised Edition)

The Servant of the Lord 1 Here is my servant[a] whom I uphold, my chosen one with whom I am pleased.

Upon him I have put my spirit; he shall bring forth justice to the nations.

Footnotes

42:1–4 Servant: three other passages have been popularly called “servant of the Lord” poems: IS 49:1–7; 50:4–11; 52:13–53:12. Whether the servant is an individual or a collectivity is not clear (e.g., contrast 49:3 with 49:5). More important is the description of the mission of the servant. In the early Church and throughout Christian tradition, these poems have been applied to Christ; cf. Mt 12:18–21.


Isaiah 43:9

New American Bible (Revised Edition)

9 Let all the nations gather together, let the peoples assemble! Who among them could have declared this, or announced to us the earlier things?[a] Let them produce witnesses to prove themselves right, that one may hear and say, “It is true!”


Footnotes

43:9 Who among them…?: God, and only God, can foretell the future because it is he who brings it to pass. The argument from prediction is an important theme in Second Isaiah and occurs also in IS 41:22; 43:10; 44:7–8, 26.

Isaiah 49:5

New American Bible (Revised Edition)

5 For now the Lord has spoken who formed me as his servant from the womb, That Jacob may be brought back to him and Israel gathered to him; I am honored in the sight of the Lord, and my God is now my strength!


Isaiah 43:10, “Ye are my witnesses”, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. Revelation 22:13  (I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.)



Footnotes

43:10 You are my witnesses: Israel’s role as chosen people (Through whom Gods plan of salvation of mankind would be revealed) now takes a new turn as they are given the active role of bearing witness before humankind to the Lord’s role in history by proclaiming events beforehand and bringing them to pass; see also Is 44:8. The false gods, on the other hand, cannot produce such witnesses (v. 9; cf. 44:9). 

I am he: this formula of self-identification, repeated in vv. 13 and 25, is used here to support the assertion that the Lord alone is God; see also 41:4; 46:4; 48:12; 51:12; 52:6. This expression in part may be behind the self-identification formula used by Jesus in John’s gospel (cf. Jn 8:58). Before…after: another example of the same assertion, that the Lord alone is God; see also note on 44:6.


 (Lost son parable, Luke 15:22

“Whether the servant is an individual or a collectivity is not clear”

We’ve been here before when talking about the ‘other tradition” of the two witnesses being Elijah and Tabitha, in the apocrypha book, “The apocalypse of Elijah” it was stated that some manuscripts had “One mouth” that spake fire to their enemies, had one body etc…and I said they were close… It’s Two bodies one soul…just like Joshua and Zerubbabel merges into “one servant” in Haggai 2 vs 23


“Not an economic crisis but a collapse, depression a picnic compared…”Chairman of FED Jerome Powell says shortly after, “No one knows whether there's going to be a recession or not, and if so how bad that recession would be.

I show a chart showing bank of England interest rates flatlining after financial crisis and state that QE was an experiment that nobody knew how it was gonna work out and now we know and the very next week? Three articles, Foreign  Policy, Financial times and Bloomberg.

Raise questions about Ukrainians air defenses and shortly thereafter comes the RUSI (Royal United Services Institute) does there piece explaining what happened (Poked holes in it, makes no sense, gave no sources)

Army Captain Campbell, given his previous positions knows a lot about Russian strategy/tactics but his assertion that Russia “switched to” a war of attrition strategy just flies in the face of common sense given, selling $’s, buying gold, developing weapons and insulating their economy. Somebody was saying from day 3 or 4 that’s what they were doing.

That’s four things somebody is saying AHEAD of the pack. Lives in a garage , no TV no internet. Only internet I get is at library of hitting free WIFI, you might want to stop and ask your self, “How is that possible? So glad you asked…Lets go examine the book of Haggai a lil…Yes, Haggai…


wax seal envelope, my chosen (not called), authorized representatives...)

"I love you more than gold or silver" Deer pantith for the water, Last week Haggai, "The gold and the silver are mine Luke 21:26 "Powers of Heaven shaken" Haggai "In a lil while I will once again shake the earth and the heavens."














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