Saturday, April 20, 2024

Well? One of them was right :-).

 


Smolin–Susskind debate



Leonard Susskin


Lee Smolin


"The Smolin–Susskind debate refers to the series of intense postings in 2004 between Lee Smolin and Susskind, concerning Smolin's argument that the "anthropic principle" 


"The anthropic principle, also known as the "observation selection effect", is the hypothesis, first proposed in 1957 by Robert Dicke, that the range of possible observations that could be made about the universe is limited by the fact that observations could happen only in a universe capable of developing intelligent life. Proponents of the anthropic principle argue that it explains why the universe has the age and the fundamental physical constants necessary to accommodate conscious life, since if either had been different, no one would have been around to make observations. Anthropic reasoning is often used to deal with the idea that the universe seems to be finely tuned for the existence of life.

(As soon as people go here with me? I go right to the fact that this DOES N OT EXPLAIN HOW INFORMATION GOT INTO THE DNA MOLECULE. NOT ONLY DOES IT NOT EXPLAIN IT? IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT! Response every single time I have brought that up as a rebuttal to people who purpose this as an explanation for all the fine tuning we see in the universe? Crickets...as in silence. So sorry to destroy illusions...nah...not really, but I digress...)


"Smolin's argument that the "anthropic principle" cannot yield any falsifiable predictions, and therefore cannot be a part of science."It began on July 26, 2004, with Smolin's publication of "Scientific alternatives to the anthropic principle." Smolin e-mailed Susskind asking for a comment. Having not had the chance to read the paper, Susskind requested a summarization of his arguments. Smolin obliged, and on July 28, 2004, Susskind responded, saying that the logic Smolin followed "can lead to ridiculous conclusions." The next day, Smolin responded, saying that 

"If a large body of our colleagues feels comfortable believing a theory that cannot be proved wrong, then the progress of science could get stuck, leading to a situation in which false, but unfalsifiable theories dominate the attention of our field." 

This was followed by another paper by Susskind which made a few comments about Smolin's theory of "cosmic natural selection." The Smolin–Susskind debate finally ended with each of them agreeing to write a final letter which would be posted on the edge.org website, with three conditions attached: (1) No more than one letter each; (2) Neither sees the other's letter in advance; (3) No changes after the fact


Lee Smolin

July 29th, 2004

"If a large body of our colleagues feels comfortable 

believing a theory that cannot be proved wrong,

(Multiverse)

 then the progress of science could get stuck, 

("You are doing a disservice to science")

leading to a situation in which false, 

but unfalsifiable theories 

dominate the attention of our field." 


IT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED.

Next thing you know we will have every two-bit hack with an advanced degree going around spouting off any and every hairbrained idea they have ever had as absolute truth.

OH, excuse me, were already there.


Well, at least we don't have respected scientist going around claiming that things are theories and hypotheses that really arent and intentional misleading the general public yet.


OH, my bad, were already there.



Mix in one part internet 

with healthy dose social media 

and an army of  algorithmic bots 

intentionally designed to propagate falsehood 

and negate the truth...




and ask yourself:


What time is it getting ready to be really?


Your heart and your mind already know what your brain refuses to accept, proving mind/brain duality.


What did Christ say again when the disciples asked him:


...“Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, 

and what will be the sign of your coming 

and of the end of the age?”

Jesus answered: 

“Watch out that no one deceives you." 

(Matthew 24:3-4)


I reiterate,

one of them was right:


Lee Smolin 

July 29th, 2004


"If a large body of our colleagues feels comfortable 

believing a theory that cannot be proved wrong, 

then the progress of science could get stuck, 

leading to a situation in which false, 

but unfalsifiable theories 

dominate the attention of our field." 


Romans 10:9

that if you confess with your mouth 

the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart 

that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.


How much longer do you really think you have to make a decision?





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