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just wanna make sure I got this right?

Putin issues a "partial mobilization" of experienced reservist,

but it was supposedly a "full scale invasion" of Ukraine? 

Gotta love those "full scale invasions" where the invading country hardly uses their far superior air force/air superiority.

I'm sorry, come again with that?

And now we have the "new catch phrase" being bandied about, 

(Phrase of the day BTW, bandied about :-).

'Russia's invasion of Ukraine is a threat to the "rules based order" that exist in the world.

Thats what were hearing now.

You know, the kind of "rules based order" where its perfectly acceptable for the US to make up false claims/intelligence and go invade a country and kill 10's of 1000's, (Iraq 2.0) just not anybody else.

I'll tell you what else your not gonna hear to many other places?

The majority of the world?

Really does not care about Ukraine, their sovereignty, their free market, their freedoms, their form of democracy etc.

The EU, the US and our allies do but the rest of the world" Just wants the oil and minerals from Russia and couldn't care less about Ukraine it's people etc.

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It's the truth.

It's just an unfortunate fact of history that where Ukraine sits on the map it gets invaded, swallowed up, spit out, becomes independent again, swallowed up again, spit out again etc. It always has and it always will. Because it sits at the crossroads of east and west for one thing, and because Moscow has always wanted a "buffer" on its east to slow down any invading armies that might come from that direction.. 

8th century to 13th century

1650 to 1812

1914 to 1918

1919 to 1922

1945 to 1954

After the fall of the U.S.S.R.

Present day

How Ukraine became Ukraine, in 7 maps, March 9th 2015

"To some, Ukraine has become the geopolitical faultline between the liberal democratic West and authoritarian, neo-imperial Russia under President Vladimir Putin."

"Beneath the political divisions of the present lies a country's deep, complex past. The land that's now Ukraine has long been dear to Russian nationalists. But it has also been home to a host of other peoples and empires. Its shifting borders and overlapping histories all have echoes in the current heated moment."

(This article is from the time frame shortly after Russia Annexed Crimea 1n Feb of 2014. The more things change etc.)

"Fast forward a few centuries, and you see how the land that's now Ukraine lay on the margins of competing empires. It was a region of permanent contest and shifting borders. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth -- which, at its peak, encompassed a huge swath of Europe -- had dominated much of the land, but Ukraine would also see the incursions of Hungarians, Ottomans, Swedes, bands of Cossacks and the armies of successive Russian czars."

(Point is? Its always been like this for these people, unfortunate, but it's just a by product of where they sit on the geopolitical map.)

"In the 17th century, Russia and Poland split much of the territory of what's now Ukraine along the Dnierper river. Russia's advance continued a century later, during the rule of Catherine the Great, who imagined her domains along the Black Sea constituted "Novorossiya," or "new Russia" -- a term revived by the pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine. Back then, the Russian court harbored dreams of collapsing the Ottoman empire and extending Moscow's reach to Istanbul (formerly Constantinople) and even Jerusalem."

"At the end of World War I, a revived Poland reclaimed Lviv and a chunk of what's now western Ukraine."

"The years that followed would be even more traumatic: in the late 1920s and early 1930s, Ukraine suffered heavily under the rule of Soviet despot Josef Stalin. A vast segment of Ukraine's rural population was displaced and dispossessed by Stalin's aggressive collectivization policies. A man-made famine in 1932-3 led to the deaths of some three million people."

"To make up the numbers, Russian speakers from elsewhere immigrated to Ukraine's hollowed out towns and cities, leaving a demographic footprint that defines Ukraine's divisive politics to this day.'

(And continues now as well.)

"With the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine emerged as one many new independent post-Soviet states in 1991. Its politics were riven by regional divides between the country's west and the Russian-leaning east. Russia chose to maintain a naval base in Sevastopol, the main port city in Crimea's southern tip."

"Ukraine is at a proverbial crossroads, as it has been for centuries."

(It always will be, largely because of where it sits on the map. To think that Ukraine's sovereignty, borders etc were going to remain as they were since the dissolution of the Soviet Union I think was beyond fanciful given their history and place on the map.)