the US propaganda machine is feeding you.
"Only the US is capable
of taking out
Irans nuclear facility at Fordo."
Wanna say upfront
I am not opposed
to US taking out that facility
if that is what HAS to happen.
What I am staunchly opposed to
is how:
"Only the US is capable
of taking out
Irans nuclear facility at Fordo."
is marketed to the masses.
Thursday, June 12, 2025
"Asked if Israel would need close allies,
including the US, to engage,
Bennett said his country
will have the ability to
“take this one itself.”
It was from a live blog
from what
former
Israeli Prime Minister
Naftali Bennett
told CNNs Anderson Cooper
on CNN 6/12/25.
(Seems like he would know.)
Its no longer on the live blog
but audio of what he said
can be heard here:
and the World Would Become Hell
06/12/25
06/18/25
Center for Strategic and International Studies
(Not exactly Fox news, The guardian or USA today.)
"Heather Williams is the director of the Project on Nuclear Issues and a senior fellow in the Defense and Security Department at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C.
And here is what she has to say
about the available options
for taking out Fordo.:
"Due to its hardening and depth,
Israel lacks the ordnance
to take out Fordow
on its own
in the short term..."
(Disagree, the Natanz site is supposedly 40-50 meters underground and the site at Fordo is 80 meters.
Israel can hit the electrical substation at the Natanz site
and destroy all of its centrifuges
but not Fordos?
20 meters makes that much difference?
And?
Is the electrical substation
burried 80 meters deep along with the facility itself?
I DOUBT IT.
So it just doesn't add up.
)
Tuesday, November 5, 2024
To Carry Mysterious 20,000lb Weapons
Jun 22, 2018
"This would allow the aircraft
to carry almost any bomb or missile
the service has in inventory now..."
And all this garbage about
"It was so they could carry hypersonics" is
just absolutely asinine.
That was seven years ago when that
piece above was written.
We didn't have 20,000 lbs. hypersonics back then
and we still don't have em today.
So why then were we modifying
these left over dinosaurs from WWII?
To carry 20,000 lbs ordinance?
AND?
"The U.S. military announced
on November 3 (2024)
that U.S. Air Force B-52 Stratofortress bombers
arrived in the Middle East
to deter Iran and its allies."
They were not put there just to deter.
They were put there
in case they needed to be used.
And that was
TWO DAYS BEFORE
the election 11/05/25.
So Trump didnt have anything to do with that.
Also?
"See point #3
Iran currently having a Nuclear Weapon.
8/31/24
"I have said this
since before
doing the presentations on Gobekli Tepe.
The Qataris tipped us off
about all of this.
Thats the reason for the CIA award.
And thats where the B52 were moved to.
And to date?
I haven't seen anything to suggest
that we have moved them out.
I worked on the rough draft of this yesterday.
About 20 minutes after having wrote that?
This comes across my newsfeed:
US military aircraft no longer visible
at base in Qatar, satellite images show
By AFP
Today, 6/20/25 12:58 AM
Funny it says
Today 12:58 AM
when I took the screenshot
yesterday 06/19/25 evening.
And regardless of any of that?
That doesn't change the following
all being
or being moved into place
Thursday, September 26, 2024
You can follow the link and see
the list of what was in the area,
or on its way to the area
on or before
September 26, 2024.
Some 40 days
BEFORE
the election.
So all this:
"Trump Trump Trump
Whats Trump gonna do?"
aint nothing but a bunch of stagecraft
for what has already been decided
a long time ago.
Every "expert" in the world seems to think
that only the B-2 bomber
(Shown below)
This is what they want the world to believe,
it is not the reality of the situation.
Barksdale B-52 Brandishes Its Modern Arsenal
7/30/2021
(Thats as close as they get to talking about pylon modifications
for a 20,000 lbs weapon, right there.)
"...boosting the number of these weapons it can carry from 12 (previously carried just on its wing pylons) to 20."
"Fully loaded, a B-52H can carry 20 of these weapons"
(That's the the AGM-86C and D versions,
and it can carry 20 of em at 3150 lbs apiece.
Thats 63,000 lbs.
The article was written in 2021.
The pylon modification for a 20,000 lbs weapon
happened in 2018
and there is absolutely no mention of that here.)
The reason this is important is this:
Knowing where the B52's are?
Tells you where the attack will come from.
Which would you rather loose early in a conflict?
A WWII relic last manufactured in 1962?
Or a modern stealth bomber that cost 2 billion dollars?
It's the same exact logic
as Putin using older munitions in Ukraine first.
Okay so lol
With those two falsehoods out of the way?
Now maybe we can get to the article.
The rest of it I mostly agree with :-).
But those two things get repeated a lot:
Only we have the plane
and the ordinance to take out Fordo
and only the B2 can carry the Moab
and they are simply not true.
"...striking Fordow could be a tempting prospect. On the other hand, using the GBU-57 would constitute direct support for Israel and have the potential to escalate
and drag the United States
into another war in the region."
(Which one dont we ever get in?
This decision was made prior to
September 26, 2024.
when we were putting
multiple assets in the region.)
"The destruction of Fordow is shaping up to be a Rubicon as the crisis escalates. The GBU-57 may not fully destroy the facility, so regardless of Trump’s decision, Fordow will likely remain a challenge for nonproliferation efforts. There are at least five options for destroying Fordow. All of them will have varying degrees of impact on Iran’s nuclear program, along with unique risks of escalation and international response. Below is an analysis of all five options; however, to avoid escalation while still achieving nonproliferation objectives,
Israeli sabotage
appears to be
an underappreciated option.
(1) Well we shouldn't try and take out the facility ourselves
until they at least attempt a sabotage operation.
What is the harm with that approach?
AND TWO
2) Sabotage operations just don't sell much weapons
needing to be replaced if they are successful.
So were not even gonna let em try one.
Were gonna do
what we have always been going to do.
This is not hard to figure.
Its really not.)
"The GBU-57 and U.S. Support"
(This is the option that is being pushed.)
"The United States is the only country
with conventional ordnance
to penetrate the depths of Fordow."
(Not if you just keep on stacking em
on top of each other were not.
Reverence the Hezbollah HQ attack
Monday, September 30, 2024
"The GBU-57 has never been used in combat, but has been put through extensive testing; it is believed the United States has approximately 20 of the bombs available."
"Use of the GBU-57 comes with numerous risks. First and foremost, it could fail to completely destroy the facility."
(So why not let the Israelis try "stacking" their "bunker busters on top of each other first? Before we go and try and bomb the facility? If ours "may not work" why not let theirs that "may not work" either have first crack?)
"The exact details of Fordow remain somewhat of a mystery, and even International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) Director General Rafael Grossi, who previously visited the site, indicated after Israeli strikes that there may be additional facilities up to a half mile underground. Direct U.S. intervention poses another critical risk: immediate exposure of U.S. troops, embassies, and regional interests, which Iran has explicitly threatened to target."
(Newsflah CSIS, and
"Heather Williams the director of the Project on Nuclear Issues and a senior fellow in the Defense and Security Department at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C."
they already have threatened our facilities
just for helping Israel air defenses
shoot down Irainian missiles.)
"Further, such involvement could spark other key actors to get involved..."
(Like who?
Turkey?
Our NATO ally who said this needs to be stopped?
Or Russia?
Or China?
Who exactly?
OH?
You mean we would be involved?
And there would be the need
to produce more weapons?
Gotcha.)
"Another player would be Moscow,
which remains a close Iranian partner..."
(To think they are not gonna get involved
is a mistake.)
"Nonetheless, the GBU-57
appears to be the best bet
by conventional military means
for taking out Fordow
and delivering a decisive setback
to Iran’s nuclear program."
(So:
"to be the best bet
by conventional military means
for taking out Fordow"
is something that has never been used
in combat before?
Awesome.)
"Sustained Israeli Strikes"
(The option that should at least tried before we do anything!)
"While Israel does not have the GBU-57, it does have the GBU-28 and the BLU-109, both of which have penetration capabilities to burrow into a target; however,
they could not go deep enough
to reach the Fordow facility,
which is approximately 80 meters underground."
(See above:
"Disagree, the Natanz site is supposedly 40-50 meters underground and the site at Fordo is 80.
Israel can hit the electrical substation at the Natanz site and thereby destroy all of its centrifuges but not Fordos? It just doesn't add up.
Not to mention the aforementioned,
"Stacking" of ordinance that burrows through the ground.
You are not hearing a thing about this option,
like its not even a possibility to be considered,
tells you 100% what is up.
See:
Thursday, June 19, 2025
"Since Vietnam?
When have we ever seen
a serious conflict we didn't join?
Understand why Kennedy was taken out now?")
"The GBU-28 is speculated to have already been used in Israeli strikes on Iran, including the Natanz Nuclear Facility, and some reports indicate it has also been used against Fordow, though there is supposedly no major damage to the facility. The BLU-109 has been used in major Israeli military operations in the past, such as the 2024 strikes on Lebanon."
(Discernment:
"Knowing what is being said
but what is not being said."
See where the author mentioned Israel stacking those munitions
in its attack on Hezbollah's HQ in Beirut?
WHY DO YOU THINK SHE LEFT THAT PART OUT?
They did it to see if they could "burrow" down to Hezbollahs HQ and they did, after "stacking" them one on top of the other. It was after this operation Netanyahu gave the go ahead to strike Irans nucler program. Now we dont want them to do it, we wanna get in on the action, and that is why:
"the US propaganda machine is feeding you:
"Only the US is capable
of taking out
Irans nuclear facility at Fordo.")
"Single or even sustained Israeli strikes using the GBU-28 or BLU-109 could target above-ground entrances or exits and lightly buried ventilation systems but likely could not fully destroy Fordow. This would leave the facility somewhat intact and potentially able to restart enrichment activities at some point in the future."
(No guarantee with our ordinance that has never been used in combat either:
"Use of the GBU-57 comes with numerous risks. First and foremost, it could fail to completely destroy the facility."
So why all the rush for us for US to try
when the Israelis still have an option
that hasn't been tried yet
and might yield the same result?)
"From the U.S. perspective, a potential benefit of this approach would be keeping the United States out of direct military support for Israel and avoiding involvement in the region."
(And that is why they aren't even going to be allowed to try.
"Since Vietnam?
When have we ever seen
a serious conflict we didn't join?
Understand why Kennedy was taken out now?"
etc.
And now the MAGA base is all upset about Trump going to do this when he had said numerous times we should stay out of "forever" wars in the middle east.
You see boys and girls
the names change,
The party or regime changes
The legislature changes,
but the policies
go on unabated.
Why you think that is?
See comment about Kennedy above.)
"Sabotage
"Israel has a long and relatively successful history of using sabotage to set back Iran’s nuclear program. Israel was a key contributor to the 2010 Stuxnet cyberattack on Natanz, including by contributing malware and providing a staging ground. In 2020, Israel killed Iranian lead nuclear scientist Mohsen Fakhrizadeh using a remote-controlled machine gun, although Israel has never confirmed its involvement in the assassination. Other sabotage efforts included the use of car bombs and motorcycle gunmen to assassinate key military and nuclear figures in Iran."
"There are at least three ways Israel could use unconventional means to destroy Fordow.
The first would be
cutting the power supply,
which was ultimately what destroyed the Natanz facility last week and was previously used to set the same facility back in 2021. According to Grossi, the loss of power on Friday would have caused the centrifuges to spin out of control and become inoperable. Another means would be a cyberattack, similar to Stuxnet; however, Iran likely took precautions to avoid similar attacks in the future."
(Once you pull the trigger on an attack like that? Its pretty well done and the likelihood of pulling it off again would be minimal, just like the pager/walkie/talkie attack on Hezbollah, one and done. Once in a lifetime. So that I think could be pretty well ruled out.)
"A final means would be an on-the-ground sabotage mission, which Israel has allegedly exercised."
(Yo CSIS?
If this was a Wikipedia entry?
Right here you would see
"Citation needed".
Where is the evidence of that?)
"One plan entailed commandos being dropped at the site by helicopter, fighting their way inside the facility, then blowing it up. This plan was briefed to Obama-era officials,
so additional and more sophisticated plans
may have been developed and exercised
in the meantime."
(Again:
"Citation needed"
And?
Why:
"fighting their way inside the facility,
then blowing it up"
When all you have to do
is hit the electrical substation?
Presumably not 80 meters down?)
"Of all the ways to destroy Fordow,
this comes with the lowest risk
of regional escalation
but also a high likelihood of success.
To be sure, Israeli forces would be taking on significant risk by putting boots on the ground, and there is the potential that they would not be able to gain access or destroy the full facility. Given Israel’s strong track record of success using sabotage, however,
this could present
the best short-term option
for destroying Fordow
without direct U.S. involvement."
(And that is also 100% the reason why
it wont come to fruition.
"We cant have that Bob.
We gotta get in there
and blow some shit up
so the defense contractors
have to build us
some more over priced
over engineered shit
that cant keep up with
the real world tactics
our adversaries
are currently employing."
(See: Thursday, June 19, 2025
"I 100% agree Jim.
I'll loose my cushy
post-military retirement gig
as a consultant with
(fill in the blank) defense contractor
if I don't feed em
some hay so to speak."
I get accused of being:
"Far-Fetched"
from time to time.
Ask yourself,
just how far fetched
is that imaginary conversation
just shown above?
NOT VERY.
"Nuclear Weapons
"While Israel might not have the conventional ordnance to destroy Fordow, it is believed to have the nuclear capability to do so."
"But if Israel did have low-yield nuclear weapons, these could deliver the necessary firepower to destroy Fordow. For example, the U.S. GBU-57 has a yield of approximately the equivalent of 2 tons of TNT; whereas the lowest yield nuclear weapon was the U.S. Davy Crockett, which had a yield of approximately 10 tons."
"Another option would be for Israel to signal a willingness to use nuclear weapons or escalate the conflict in order to destroy Fordow. This might not require “introducing” nuclear weapons explicitly either in rhetoric or in operations but rather hinting at such capabilities to signal commitment
in the hopes of coercing Iran
to back down and return to negotiations."
(Iran has been waiting for this since the theocratic
regime came to power in 79.
There will be no "coercing" them into anything.
There hasnt ever been,
and theres never going to be,
particularly now.
People putting this forth
are ignoring the reality
that over 40 years
of diplomacy has failed,
miserably.)
"Dismantlement by Diplomacy
"The final option is to return to dialogue
and attempt to dismantle Iran’s nuclear program
through diplomacy."
(So
"far-fetched"
Im not even gonna copy and paste any of what it says. We wouldn't be here if "Dismantlement by Diplomacy" was an option. Anybody paying close attention to the nuclear "talks" with Iran knows they were a sham from the beginning to buy US and the Israelis time.
Returning to "sham" negotiations
is just a preposterous assertation at this time.)
"While decisive strikes could seriously set back the Iranian program and create incentives for dialogue, military options risk horizontal and vertical escalation,
U.S. involvement in a Middle East war,
and failure to completely destroy the program,
allowing (and potentially incentivizing) Iran to sprint to a nuclear weapon.
The only short-term solution
that might avoid this tradeoff is Israeli sabotage.
And that is why
it will not come to fruition.
I wanna repeat:
"Wanna say upfront
I am not opposed
to US taking out that facility
if that is what HAS to happen.
What I am staunchly opposed to
is how:
"Only the US is capable
of taking out
Irans nuclear facility at Fordo."
is marketed to the masses.
You can go watch Ben Shapiro
or some other paid
talking head now.
"Drew?
Buddy?
They are gonna take you out
someday."
Knew it before I signed on,
signed on anyway.
Funny thing
about being assured
of your redemption,
you wont give much of a fuck
about dying in this realm.
Revelation 11:7-13
Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified. 9 For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.
11 But after the three and a half days the breath[b] of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.
13 At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.
What an Honor.
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