Daniel 8:23-27
King James Version
23 And in the latter time of their kingdom,
when the transgressors are come to the full,
a king of fierce countenance,
and understanding dark sentences,
shall stand up.
24 And his power shall be mighty,
but not by his own power:
and he shall destroy wonderfully,
and shall prosper,
and practise,
and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
25 And through his policy
also he shall cause craft
to prosper in his hand;
(Since 2019 Microsoft has invested 13 Billion in Open AI.
In a week?
It made back 63 billion,
Almost a 500% return on its initial investment.
In a week.
You should know where I'm going with this...eventually lol.
Hey, gotta start somewhere.
You Might wanna ask yourself
Why isnt that a bigger story
than what you are hearing about?)
and he shall magnify himself in his heart,
and
by peace shall destroy many:
(Bloomberg November 20, 2023
("OpenAI was founded as a nonprofit
"with the goal of building
safe and beneficial
artificial general intelligence
for the benefit of humanity."
"The for- profit subsidiary is fully controlled by the OpenAI Nonprofit,"
whose "principal beneficiary is humanity,
not OpenAI investors.")
he shall also stand up against
the Prince of princes;
but he shall be broken without hand.
26 And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.
27 And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king's business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.
Yeah, gonna be all about this for a lil bit.
Back to the article:
Daniel 8:23-27 meaning
The Vision of the Ram and the Goat Explained:
A king will come from one of these Greek kingdoms. He will be deceptive, crafty, powerful, and will destroy many men, including many Israelites. He will defy God and glorify himself as God. The prophecy is true that he will halt the temple sacrifices, but he will ultimately be killed. This prophecy concerns both Antiochus Epiphanes and the antichrist in the end times.
(That last line is what a lot of people just dont seem to be able to fathom. It does not have to be one way or the other.
It's both.
Or?
It's parts of both etc...)
Daniel is sick for many days, and still does not fully understand what he saw."
"Throughout the Bible, God reveals that He allows things to run their course. He allots time for kingdoms and rulers to repent, or suffer the inevitable consequences of cause/effect which He installed in the moral universe. All human action is overseen by Him and allowed by Him. God told Abraham that He was giving the Amorites four hundred years to repent of sin, while knowing that they would not turn away from their wickedness (Genesis 15:16). King Solomon writes that there is a time for everything, “every event under heaven,” appointed by God (Ecclesiastes 3:1-11). The days of every single man and woman’s life is numbered and determined by God (Job 14:5). Simultaneously, every person has a real choice, and their choices have immense impact on the world, and even upon eternity. Examples would include the immense impact that Adam and Eve’s decision had upon the world (Romans 5:12), and the fact that heavenly beings are watching the decisions and actions of humans in order to understand the wisdom of God (Ephesians 3:10). (For more on this subject, read our Tough Topics Explained: Founding Paradox) ."
(Founding paradox is a good read BTW).
"Given the insights about the spiritual dimension at work revealed by this vision recorded in Daniel 8, we can deduce that this strike against God’s people was satanically-inspired."
"It would follow that Satan’s top priority would be
to stomp out God’s people,
and terminate the lineage of the promised Messiah, who is destined to supplant Satan as the ruler of this world (John 12:31)."
("terminate the lineage
of the promised Messiah,
who is destined
to supplant Satan"
We see it over and over and over again.
Six or seven times.
(Hey, another subject for a different day, but here are a few:
Genesis six and the pollution of mankind's blood line
via the rebellious angels who mated with women.
Moses and the killing of the first born in Egypt.
Herod and the killing of infants after Christ birth.
There's three or four more but like I said, that's for a different day :-).
"he was represented by a horn that grew larger
than all the other horns before it"
(Horn here signifies power or strength.)
"The Abomination of Desolation
(in other words, a wickedness which causes horror, something so evil it is disturbing and shocking)..."
(So why aren't all these evangelist
talking about it as being gods trip wire again?)
"However, the truth according to this vision given to Daniel is that Antiochus Epiphanes’ motivation was the oldest, foremost temptation, the deception that Satan whispered to Eve in the Garden, “…you will be like God…” (Genesis 3:4). Antiochus called good evil and evil good, which is a practice God judges (Isaiah 5:20)."
"This Abomination of Desolation that Daniel witnessed in this vision took place roughly four hundred years after this dream, and roughly two hundred years prior to Jesus’s prophetic assertion that the sign of His return would be when Israel saw the “Abomination of Desolation spoken of through Daniel the prophet standing in the holy place” (Matthew 24:15). This indicates that something like what occurred during the time of Antiochus Epiphanes will occur again in the future (as of this writing in 2023). It is common for prophecies to have two or more fulfillments. It is also common for the second fulfillment to take a different form from the first.
(I think that is what a lot of people are missing.
The above underlined statement that is.
Again,
from Matthew Henrys commentary on Joel 2:
"Those on whom the Spirit is poured out shall foresee and foretell that great and terrible day of the Lord, and expound the wonders in heaven and earth that go before it; (Sept 23rd, 2017, new Comet) for, as to his first coming, so to his second, all the prophets did and do bear witness,
He then references Revelation 10:7
“But in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound his trumpet, the mystery of God will be accomplished, just as he announced to his servants the prophets.”)
"So this second “Abomination of Desolation” could have materially different characteristics and still fulfill the prophecy. However, Jesus’s prediction seems to anticipate that the careful observer will be able to discern that the sign has occurred, since Jesus tells His disciples that whoever sees this sign should “flee to the mountains” (Matthew 24:16).
"The abomination of Antiochus Epiphanes’ rule was hundreds of years away in the future from Daniel’s lifetime, but according to Jesus, the Abomination of Desolation will occur again in the last days (Matthew 24:15). Like many visions in the Bible, this has partial and future fulfillments."
"There are many parallels to the way this boastful horn (Antiochus Epiphanes) is described and the boastful horn (also known as “the beast,” or “the antichrist”) of the end times (Daniel 7:8, Revelation 13:5)."
"Antiochus is noted for his skill in intrigue, that he operates with shrewdness."
(Microsoft made back 500% on it's initial investment in a week.
Sound shrewd?)
"His justification for persecuting the Jews was to paint them as hateful enemies to all other men. He was crafty as well as violent."
(How about crafty?
Sound crafty?
Making back 500% on you initial investment in a week?
(and a whole lot of other things accomplished at the same time mind you.)
"His status as king was accomplished through opportunistic
political maneuvering and populist appeal,
("OpenAI was founded as a nonprofit
"with the goal of building
safe and beneficial
artificial general intelligence
for the benefit of humanity.")
"not by right of inheritance. He would cause deceit to succeed by his influence."
"And so it will be in the future for the antichrist. His deceptive abilities will be noteworthy:
(Just gave you an example)
“…the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved.”
(2 Thessalonians 2:9-10)"
"He will be so deceptive and persuasive that even the leaders of Israel will trust him. He will enter into an agreement with Israel:
“And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week” in which he too will ban the sacrifices in the temple, just as Antiochus had, “ but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering.”
"The antichrist, the man of lawlessness, will defy the true God and claim that he is god, just as Antiochus would magnify himself in his heart and would oppose the Prince of princes, calling himself “God Manifest”:
“…the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.”
(2 Thessalonians 2:3-4)"
"Thus, this prophecy has near and far implications. It is filled partially by Antiochus Epiphanes, but seems to also be a foreshadow of the man of lawlessness in the end times. In either case, for Daniel, it pertains to many days in the future. Daniel would live to see the Medo-Persians conquer Babylon (Daniel 5), but nothing beyond that. He is already advanced in years while witnessing this vision. God reveals these things so that Daniel will record them, to assure His people that He is sovereign over all, on His throne in heaven, and that even during the most wicked of days, He will ultimately win."
"Much of what is written in Daniel is mirrored by the vision Jesus gave to John in Revelation. God’s throne is referenced roughly forty times in Revelation’s twenty-two chapters, and every adverse circumstance recorded is first authorized to occur from God, who always occupies the throne. Thus, the messages of Daniel and Revelation both make clear that God is the sovereign ruler over all. Nothing occurs that He does not allow. He does not sleep or slumber, but is the keeper of Israel, and of the entire earth, irrespective of what circumstances we might observe occur (Psalm 121:4-8).
"Daniel concludes his account of this angelic visitation and the vision given to him: Then I, Daniel, was exhausted and sick for days. This supernatural encounter was so overwhelming for Daniel it knocked him down, so that he was lying in bed for days. He was both physically spent, exhausted, and ill, sick."
(The day I was doing the end time schematic presentation?,
the day I did the presentation on the true church
being the one that believed the two witnesses were who they were?
I went to bed early in the afternoon,
I got up for a lil bit in the evening
and then went right back to bed
and got up around 8 the next day.
All told?
Close to 13 hours in bed,
Didnt happen till right after I was done.
I just felt like I had been hit by a truck.)
"This is common for such occurrences.
When God
pulls back the veil
that separates us from the spiritual world,
(Gonna borrow that wording BTW :-)
those who encounter it are often struck with fear, ailment, or confusion. We are far more fragile than we realize. We tend to be oblivious to the spiritual dimension, but it is fully aware of and focused upon us (Ephesians 3:10).
(40 years ago we had astronomers saying the act of the universe being brought into existence was by forces we couldn't possibly hope to understand. Now days we got physicist saying that the likelihood of another existence after this one, in a different form than the one we currently experiencing is greater than 50%.
Point is scientist are seeing the science support
what some of us have known for a while.
That being the case?
Dont you think it's time not to be:
"oblivious to the spiritual dimension"?)
"This is likely a reason why God tends to speak to us through prophets, through messages given to messengers to spread to the people at large. We can read these words given to Daniel without having to experience the curtain being pulled back on the spiritual dimension."
(And he picks people such as to limit the "collateral damage" so to speak, to their families, businesses, flocks etc. Translation, people without large families or lots of responsibilities, be it a family, a business or a congregation etc. The messenger's responsibilities are to his master and no one else.)
"Daniel, however, received samples of this supernatural world and was overwhelmed each time."
(Resonates...big time.)
"There was none to explain it, there was no further explanation from God. If we put ourselves in Daniel’s place, it would be difficult to imagine the fall of the mighty Babylonian Empire. It would be even more difficult to imagine
a mighty power coming from the west,
which at that time was puny in comparison to the great empires of the east."
(I wonder who that could be?
"a mighty power coming from the west"?)
"We are able to better understand it because we have the benefit of hindsight, seeing the partial fulfillment through Alexander the Great, the Seleucid dynasty, and Antiochus Epiphanes."
"Daniel was faithful, despite lacking understanding. He recorded the prophetic vision for future readers.
(Over and over doing the presentations on the end time schematics the other part of my soul kept telling me:
"Were gonna save these scrolls."
(We rolled up the schematics like you would a scroll for storage until a later date)
"Someday people are going to be looking through reading them like they did back in ancient times."
So nice to have somebody who understands and supports you and doesn't think you're crazy etc.
And a few years ago I had a friend who affectionately called me Daniel :-).
If I ever had an alias?
it would be
Daniel Richards
"We are able to study and ponder it to this day because of Daniel’s obedience.
(God couldn't care less about your comfort. People just do not understand this. The more uncomfortable he is making you? The bigger purpose he has for you, so no, God couldn't care less about your comfort, what he really cares about is listed above:
OBEDIENCE
FAITHFULLNESS.)
"He did not hide the vision in fear
nor withhold the details of his fragility."
(Resonates)
"At the heart of all prophetic visions from God is the truth that He is sovereign over the events that happen on earth, and no matter how difficult times become, no matter how many evil rulers rise and fall, God is above all and His will be done. If we add to this the lesson of Revelation, no matter how dire circumstances might be, God always calls us to be faithful witnesses, and not fear loss, rejection, or death. Daniel is an excellent example of what it looks like to be a faithful witness, an overcomer (for more, read our Tough Topics Explained: Overcomers )"
"if we add this to the lesson of Revelation..."
:-).
"If you are going to read the book of Revelation? It MUST be done in conjunction with the book of Daniel."
"MUST"
No maybe.
Not any: Hey you might wanna check it out.
No: Might wanna take a look at it, etc.
"MUST"
Guess who said it?
Scroll down and find out :-).
Consider this an opening statement if you'd like.
more coming shortly.
I hope lol.
Hey were moving and stuff
Give me a break lol.
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