Wednesday, September 18, 2024

PENROSE?

 Dude? I told ya,

You should have stuck with Black Holes.

Nice to know your paying attention though...


Discovery of quantum vibrations in 'microtubules' inside brain neurons 

supports controversial theory of consciousness


(Its not the quantum vibrations in the microtubules inside the neurons

its what that vibration is connecting to.

I

This one).


"A review and update of a controversial 20-year-old theory of consciousness claims that consciousness derives from deeper level, finer scale activities inside brain neurons." 

(That it's a physical process.

Materialism ~

the doctrine that nothing exists except matter 

and its movements and modifications.

Which has been summarily disproven/dismissed as erroneous by the existence of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena.)


"The recent discovery of quantum vibrations in "microtubules" inside brain neurons corroborates this theory, according to review authors (Stuart Hameroff and Sir Roger Penrose). They suggest that EEG rhythms (brain waves) also derive from deeper level microtubule vibrations."


(First of all?

Do they really think I don't know 

why they are reviewing this?

From 20 years ago?

Please.

(Revisit This one if you need to.)


"The theory, called "orchestrated objective reduction" ('Orch OR'), was first put forward in the mid-1990s by eminent mathematical physicist Sir Roger Penrose, FRS, Mathematical Institute and Wadham College, University of Oxford, and prominent anesthesiologist Stuart Hameroff, MD, Anesthesiology, Psychology and Center for Consciousness Studies, The University of Arizona, Tucson. They suggested that quantum vibrational computations in microtubules were "orchestrated" ("Orch") by synaptic inputs and memory stored in microtubules, and terminated by Penrose "objective reduction" ('OR'), hence "Orch OR." Microtubules are major components of the cell structural skeleton."


"The origin of consciousness reflects our place in the universethe nature of our existence." 


(Oh it most certainly does, you can count on that!

Genesis 1:27

So God created mankind in his own image,

    in the image of God he created them;

    male and female he created them.)


Did consciousness evolve from complex computations among brain neurons, as most scientists assert? Or has consciousness, in some sense, been here all along, as spiritual approaches maintain?" ask Hameroff and Penrose in the current review. "This opens a potential Pandora's Box, but our theory accommodates both these views, suggesting consciousness derives from quantum vibrations in microtubules, protein polymers inside brain neurons, which both govern neuronal and synaptic function, and connect brain processes to self-organizing processes in the fine scale, 'proto-conscious' quantum structure of reality."


Here is the whole problem that is not addressed here:

If Darwinian Evolution presupposes an already living 

"simple", single cell organism that all life "evolved" from?

(And now we know what Darwin didn't, that a single cell just isn't so simple etc)


Then what does this theory think that 

"complex computations among brain neurons"

"Evolved" from?

Evolution in the Darwinian sense does not explain how life got here, only what happened to it after it was already here. 

"complex computations among brain neurons"

Wasn't always here.

So what did that "evolve" from?

If biological evolution can not explain where life came from?

Then how in the world do they purpose consciousness "Evolved"?

ITS NONSENSE.

THEY JUST CAN NOT ACCEPT ANYTHING OTHER THAN:

Materialism ~

the doctrine that nothing exists except matter 

and its movements and modifications.


"There is only one barrier to the truth

and that is assuming you already have it."

Chuck Missler.


Plus?

"Or has consciousness, in some sense, been here all along"

THINGS DONT INVENT THEMSELVES.

EVERYTHING IN THIS UNIVERSE HAS A CAUSE

INCLUDING CONSCIOUNESS

("Scientist" cant even agree on a definition of it BTW)


"After 20 years of skeptical criticism, "the evidence now clearly supports Orch OR," continue Hameroff and Penrose."


(What else did you think they are going to say?

"Hey, we were wrong? 

And like I said, like I don't know why 

they dug it back up to review it?


Hey Penrose?

Explain what

"complex computations among brain neurons"

evolved from why don't ya?

Good luck.)


"An important new facet of the theory is introduced. Microtubule quantum vibrations (e.g. in megahertz) appear to interfere and produce much slower EEG "beat frequencies." Despite a century of clinical use, the underlying origins of EEG rhythms have remained a mystery. 


(Because the quantum vibrations 

in your brain 

just can not handle 

the infinite wisdom

they are connecting to.




(Those large telescopes all linked together

might as well be the neurons in your brain.)

Isaiah 55:8-9

“For my thoughts are not your thoughts,

    neither are your ways my ways,”

declares the Lord.

“As the heavens are higher than the earth,

    so are my ways higher than your ways

    and my thoughts than your thoughts.)


"Penrose, Hameroff and Bandyopadhyay will explore their theories during a session on "Microtubules and the Big Consciousness Debate" at the Brainstorm Sessions, a public three-day event at the Brakke Grond in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, January 16-18, 2014. They will engage skeptics in a debate on the nature of consciousness, and Bandyopadhyay and his team will couple microtubule vibrations from active neurons... "Consciousness depends on anharmonic vibrations of microtubules inside neurons."


(Just because consciousness might depend on vibrations inside neurons?

DOES NOT EQUATE TO THEIR BEING

THE CAUSE OF IT.


Here is what I wish I could ask them right now:


If consciousness evolved?

And Darwinian evolution 

is a spontaneous random event?


Then how did all the 

Quantum Fields 

(17 of them BTW


)


conspire

to act together 

simultaneously

in a 

"random manner"

 to create it?

And just why would they have bothered to have done so in the first place?

Hardly seems random now does it?






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